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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please

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xecton
post Aug 19 2010, 05:45 PM

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Hi guys, I have a question. And this is not trolling.

As far as I know, monks (Theravada only or all?) are not allowed to wear underwear.
The reason is that Buddha don't want his followers to have attachment to their clothings, so all must wear the orange robe. So since they haven't invent underwear at that time, it is not in their "uniform".

But why the commando practice still goes on today in the modern age? Why not wear underwear now?
Isn't holding on to the old practice for the sake of the old practice is an attachment?

I may have made some assumptions above. If I'm mistaken in any part, it's because of my lack of knowledge. Don't flame me.
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post Aug 19 2010, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 19 2010, 05:45 PM)
Hi guys, I have a question. And this is not trolling.

As far as I know, monks (Theravada only or all?) are not allowed to wear underwear.
The reason is that Buddha don't want his followers to have attachment to their clothings, so all must wear the orange robe. So since they haven't invent underwear at that time, it is not in their "uniform".

But why the commando practice still goes on today in the modern age? Why not wear underwear now?
Isn't holding on to the old practice for the sake of the old practice is an attachment?

I may have made some assumptions above. If I'm mistaken in any part, it's because of my lack of knowledge. Don't flame me.
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commando practice is because cloth between the legs may cause excitement.

however it is a minor vow, and can be disregarded depending on the circumstances i.e when there are greater needs. For example in monasteries in tibet (now dharamsala) older monks do wear underwear as it makes it easier for younger monks to help wash them.
xecton
post Aug 19 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 19 2010, 08:38 PM)
commando practice is because cloth between the legs may cause excitement.

however it is a minor vow, and can be disregarded depending on the circumstances i.e when there are greater needs. For example in monasteries in tibet (now dharamsala) older monks do wear underwear as it makes it easier for younger monks to help wash them.
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What? I never feel excited wearing underwear everyday... I'll feel more excited if I don't wear.
Joey-kun
post Aug 19 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 19 2010, 09:59 PM)
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What? I never feel excited wearing underwear everyday... I'll feel more excited if I don't wear.
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when the cloth rubs against certain parts..oh well

maybe it did for people of that time so yeah we respect yah
exsea
post Aug 19 2010, 11:28 PM

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the way i see it, vinaya (rules the monks live by) is just a rule made by the buddha to keep the monks in line.

as long as a person does everything moderately and practice enough meditation i believe a normal person can achieve quite a lot.
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post Aug 19 2010, 11:49 PM

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????? Somebody deleted all my post in this thread?
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post Aug 19 2010, 11:51 PM

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lets be sensitive towards each other
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post Aug 20 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 19 2010, 03:36 PM)
Actually, i have no teacher. LOL. I dun intend to dwell into the deeper studies, just the basic. IMO, Buddhism is like a formula. It's up to you how you use this formula and apply it. It's not like a typical God-based religion, where they emphasie to tell you what u can do and what you cannot. It's like, give a man fish, he'll eat for one meal. Teach him how to fish and he'll have the knowledge to support himself.

Just to share... when i was younger...during my 20's,  was looking for some answer...after studying different religious books for sometime, one night, while i was about to sleep, thinking about all this Buddhism thingy, suddenly i have like an experience where all the jigsaw puzzles fit into places...i can't explain it...mini-enlightment perhaps?? LOL. Anyway, from that day onwards. I simply know Buddhism is the path. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 19 2010, 03:38 PM)
It doesn't happens overnight....it might takes many lifetime for one to be ready to finally leave all desires behind....I know i am not ready this lifetime. It can wait. No hurry.
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It's like, give a man fish, he'll would not eat and will let it go into the river. Teach him not to fish and he'll have the knowledge to understand the equivalent.
Your jigsaw puzzles is an idea of understanding , enlightment is totally different thing.

Don't be greedy and keep on saying "not ready this lifetime". You'll miss the next lifetime if you don't start this lifetime.
If one with full of faith , you can leave all desired behind anytime.If you really can't start , try leaving one of those five desired.Little by little , no one force you to leave all at once.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Aug 20 2010, 12:06 AM
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post Aug 20 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 19 2010, 11:49 PM)
????? Somebody deleted all my post in this thread?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1520928?auth...known%20warrior
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post Aug 20 2010, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(ayamkambing @ Aug 20 2010, 12:28 AM)
How come I can't see it myself??????


This is black magic!!!!!!!!! vmad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif
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post Aug 20 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 20 2010, 12:38 AM)
How come I can't see it myself??????
This is black magic!!!!!!!!!  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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SHow posts by this member only.

you click on it, and it goes missing?

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post Aug 20 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(ayamkambing @ Aug 20 2010, 12:39 AM)
SHow posts by this member only.

you click on it, and it goes missing?

blink.gif
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Eh why u suddenly turn to Atheist?
exsea
post Aug 20 2010, 03:11 AM

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anyway regardless of everything previously wrote (i read the 1st page) but i still need to ask.

what is the purpose of this thread? i initially thought this thread was about buddhist retreats, u know... place where people go to meditate?
Joey-kun
post Aug 20 2010, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(exsea @ Aug 20 2010, 03:11 AM)
anyway regardless of everything previously wrote (i read the 1st page) but i still need to ask.

what is the purpose of this thread? i initially thought this thread was about buddhist retreats, u know... place where people go to meditate?
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i think its something like a place for buddhists to talk about buddhist stuffs. but of course trolls and derailments happen.
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post Aug 20 2010, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 19 2010, 03:36 PM)
Actually, i have no teacher. LOL. I dun intend to dwell into the deeper studies, just the basic. IMO, Buddhism is like a formula. It's up to you how you use this formula and apply it. It's not like a typical God-based religion, where they emphasie to tell you what u can do and what you cannot. It's like, give a man fish, he'll eat for one meal. Teach him how to fish and he'll have the knowledge to support himself.

Just to share... when i was younger...during my 20's,  was looking for some answer...after studying different religious books for sometime, one night, while i was about to sleep, thinking about all this Buddhism thingy, suddenly i have like an experience where all the jigsaw puzzles fit into places...i can't explain it...mini-enlightment perhaps?? LOL. Anyway, from that day onwards. I simply know Buddhism is the path. smile.gif
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Mind to elaborate more about the jigsaw puzzle experience? I feel curious about this because last time I know few mental sick patients (actually they are more into looking for the correct path but in very extreme way) also mentioned about this for many times but I couldn’t understand.

This post has been edited by POYOZER: Aug 20 2010, 07:07 AM
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post Aug 20 2010, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 19 2010, 04:02 PM)
yes.

some christians from phillipines practice buddhism as well.
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Oh no, not again. sad.gif
Joey-kun
post Aug 20 2010, 08:57 AM

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*goes back to an actual Buddhist forum while watching this one going to the trolls*
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post Aug 20 2010, 09:01 AM

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Those who rojak Buddhist and Christian cannot make up their damn mind... lolol
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post Aug 20 2010, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:01 AM)
Those who rojak Buddhist and Christian cannot make up their damn mind... lolol
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dont care about them la. people can do what they want. its like convincing a salesperson that his product sucks. nobody will believe lah and we're just wasting time.
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post Aug 20 2010, 09:23 AM

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@Joey

Finally thread reopened.

Was about to ask you on the *crap what I want to ask ady*

Any idea on which mantra the 'Da Bei Zhou' was derived from?

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