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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please

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soul2soul
post Aug 18 2010, 12:05 PM

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post Aug 18 2010, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Aug 18 2010, 12:26 PM)
but i thought falun dafa is supposed to be a school of buddhism?

from your reaction i take it that you do not look at it in a positive way? sweat.gif
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There is only one type of Buddhism taught by the Buddha. He did not teach Theravada or Mahayana. He taught that consistently for 45 years of his life, which is the 4 noble truths, and the 8 fold paths that lead to Nibbana.

The split in Buddhism happens much later in the history of buddhism about 500 years after his passing, due to differences in interpretation and the reformation in buddhism.

Did the Buddha teach Falun Dafa?

If he didn't , then it's not part of buddhism, right?
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post Aug 18 2010, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ Aug 18 2010, 12:30 PM)
Hello~
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hi welcome to the thread.
soul2soul
post Aug 18 2010, 12:36 PM

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So how does the 4 noble truths and attaining of Cessation of Suffering (nibbana) fit into falun Dafa?

what does falun dara says about the 4 noble truths? any meditation instructions?


8 fold path

1. Right View
2. Right Intention
3. Right Speech
4. Right Action
5. Right Livelihood
6. Right Effort
7. Right Mindfulness
8. Right Concentration


oh yea, Zstan, back to our long discussion... tell me what you understgand about the 8 fold path. This is the FUNDAMENTAL of buddha's teaching.

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post Aug 18 2010, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 18 2010, 01:08 PM)
if i say that i'm in vajrayana what would you say?

however what i study covers both theravarda and mahayana. the key points are still there.
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Same principles, but like you said before, the emphasis is actually quite different.

Even among the theravada countries, the Thai don't stress so much on Ahbidhamma, but the Burmese monks have to study them. Attended some pujas presided by Tibetan monks in the past smile.gif

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post Aug 18 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Hamas @ Aug 18 2010, 04:14 PM)
whats mock vegetable meat i see in the supermarket
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THey are not healthy. mostly added with lots of chemical to make them look like meat.


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post Aug 18 2010, 07:21 PM

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post Aug 19 2010, 09:40 AM

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Buddhism is like the movie Matrix by Keanu Reave.

We all trapped inside this system called Samsara for infinite past and future, all victims of our own cause effect. Life after life we exist, sometimes at good places, but mostly at bad places due to this.

Buddha is like Neo - he figured all these out, and he taught a doctrine called the DHamma, which is something that if one practices, will eventually liberate him from Samsara.


People who followed him, and practiced this dhamma, and found emancipation are called the Sangha (ariyas)


So the Tripple Gem in buddhism means

1. Buddha
2. Dhamma
3. Sangha

Succinct?

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post Aug 19 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(KyLe91 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:40 AM)
How do Buddhists feel about racism?

I mean diff religion have diff definitions rightt?
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Eventually all will die and become bones. So race matters?
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post Aug 19 2010, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(KyLe91 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:36 AM)
hello TS, once i heard from a friend of mine. He said in Buddhism, they beleive in rebirth. How is that so.?
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Yes. What do you mean how?
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post Aug 19 2010, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Aug 19 2010, 09:43 AM)
em

and how?
have something that "must read" or "must do"?in muslin we got bismilah something like that
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Depends on the tradition.

Theravada no prayer one, as there is no one to pray to (buddha already passed away). Mental culture (meditation) yes...

everything is about the mind eventually.

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post Aug 19 2010, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Aug 19 2010, 09:41 AM)
so in any mean, you people don't know what is your previous life and what is your after life like right?

in other word - it just holding on faith of believing on the religion, right bro?
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Got people can see one. But you don't believe... hard to tell wor..
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post Aug 19 2010, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:47 AM)
Hi TS.. I heard Buddhism said its just a teaching. But somehow, got supernatural stuff like rebirth, karma etc. So is Buddhist lying?
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OMG, the troll is back. Warning!
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post Aug 19 2010, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Aug 19 2010, 09:48 AM)
is the main objective of buddhist in the end is to cease to exist?
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Technically speaking - err YES.
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post Aug 19 2010, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:50 AM)
OMG, the person who cannot answer question is here also... lol

come on la... answer the question. This is not troll. I need to know.
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OMG the troll is asking the question he thinks he already has the answer to.

So how can this old troll like me answer him and change his mind?


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post Aug 19 2010, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:52 AM)
what he think does not matter. Its what your answer that might change his mind.
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A full cup is hard to teach. Much you have to learn my young apprentice.
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post Aug 19 2010, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 19 2010, 10:02 AM)
earth shattering answer will displace all the water in the cup my dear...
Depends on the question.

Right question leads to right answers. QUestions pertaining to the state of the universe are unwise questions.
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post Aug 19 2010, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Aug 19 2010, 10:15 AM)
so buddha didn't explain whats beyond the 6 realms huh? that's ok.

on the other hand i think soul2soul believe that above the 6 realms there are nothingness. different school of thought? do correct me if im wrong s2s.
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Friend,

The abhidhamma says there are 31 realms in this world system, but may differ in other universes, but they will have namely

1. Sensual desire realms
2. Fine Material Realms
3. Immaterial Realms

The Mahayana reclassify this to 6.
The Theravada normally will quote the realms in a more technically way, such as
1. Apayalokas ( the four lowest states)
2. Sugati (happy state of Humans and the devalokas - heavens)
3. Brahmalokas (Fine Material and Immaterial states)

It's just the way different types of tradition re-classify these 31 realms. (for ease to remember)
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post Aug 19 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 19 2010, 10:21 AM)
my question is related to Buddhism saying its not religion which I do not agree. Its not state of universe question.  doh.gif
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Not a problem to ask. But limit of lifespan you have , young padawan. Spending 80 years of your life to ask irrelevant questions, nothing you will learn and realize. Discurssive thinking you will develop, intellectual and argumentative you will be. Professors in buddhism the path you will take, not realization of path you deeply seek.

This is not the 8-fold path that you seek. Another way to examine you must develop. Well , I wish you.
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post Aug 19 2010, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(birain @ Aug 19 2010, 10:22 AM)
by right cannot eat lor but they disobey it.
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Incorrect. study more of the teaching of Tathagata you must. Ignorance is not a bliss. Right view you must develop, only then confidence (saddha) in the dhamma you will develop.



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