It's a true story but without all the fantasy tales or stories.

Helo mysa,

Jhanas is mystic stage of deep mental concentration.


Magga is a special consciousness that arises in the mind that destroys defilements permanently. Phala is the after-effect of magga.

non of the fighting is important, fighting is due to misunderstanding and egos really. if u take away those fighting, their teachings in essence is the dhamma that Buddha taught. every school/sect has their own problems/ghosts to fight. don let all the fighting cloud your judgement on what is more important, you in relation to the world you live in. don let nila setitik, rosak susu sebelangga.

the story is just a story, true or not has no special importance to me. some of its lessons are quite good which we can take as example.

u see, what we heard and read may or may not be true. hence, i urge you to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalama_Sutta

This post has been edited by hotjake: Jan 20 2012, 03:57 PM

extra note: jhana is very achievable, please try it. won't take a lifetime too, a year will do even if you believe you're 'untalented.'

I haven't actually tried 100% into the samatha practice but I heard that one need seclusion and 8 precepts.

Actually I am not good at vipassana too.

haih, sad

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:02 PM

no regular practice how to be good, hahaha.

just remember that even for one breath while in samatha, for that one breath you're in concentration. then you keep up with the second breath, then the third, then the fourth.

yes the keyword is regular.

I quite regular ler but still don't see much result. OK, results maybe got in having more saddha (faith) and the path I am walking. Less anxiety. Maybe more understanding of buddhism.

But vipassana nanas or jhanas no wor - maybe i am dihetuka ler? 2 good roots only ? wooot

How do you guys practice? can share?

Like how often go retreat, meditate, dhamma lessons , go do dana etc?

maybe i am not doing something right....

But I do admit, I watch a lot of porn and play lots of video games... is that a hindrance to progress?

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:18 PM

don't put those stories in your head la. jhana is not that mystical, just creating a new habit in your head like learning how to play football.

supplement n balance your practice with the other dosa kusala kamma

dear all,

do you think watching porn/masturbating and playing video games is not good for cultivation of the mind? Is that a hindrance to nanas and the concentration?



This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:22 PM

Yess. they r addictions and they create negative imprints in our mind.

This post has been edited by hotjake: Jan 20 2012, 04:22 PM

oh crap

but how does one live without any sexual outlet?

About Jhanas , I heard sex destroys it and it's very hard to maintain.

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:24 PM

don worry, u're not alone

brohug, lol

This post has been edited by hotjake: Jan 20 2012, 04:26 PM

that's why the Buddha only renounced after he has a child. just joking okay.

I heard that Jhanas is very hard to maintain. Must nurse like a baby. Break a bit of precept or indulge in some sensual pleasures, it's gone.

Those people that can get into the jhanas

very powderful mind.

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:39 PM

Fighting caused death and misery to the people. They are not fighting ghost, but real people, sir. Buddha never condoned spilling the blood of anyone, let alone an innocent.

Religion is superflous I think. Even the open mindedness of Buddhism can transform into bigotry.

So, the monk really went to India and brought back the scriptures, then translated all of them?

That's right. this was how the first humans appeared in this planet anyway. according to a buddhist story. when 3 godly figures tasted the sweet earth and all their powers are gone immediately.

but you have to understand that fighting in the name of religion, and fighting in the name of civil rights, greed etc. are totally different things. wars in the name of Buddhism are really really little compared to the likes of islam and christianity where they still fight until this day and time.

i think the translating part were done by scholars and not the monk alone. he'd need at least 2-3 life times before he can translate all the scriptures.

buddhist scriptures banyak banyak

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:53 PM