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eddie_al
post Sep 28 2010, 10:32 AM

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hello guys n girls,

since this is a VW thread specifically for Polo & Rocco, i wanted to ask bout your opinions.

with the 1.2 Polo being so affordable, will it be a better buy for the purpose of 1)weekend car 2)family car 3)personal outing car; compared to the 1.4 tsi?

the reason is because i am going to have a company car for my work soon(a 4x4), so my current ride would probably be left at home only to be used when either 3 need above is required.

my intention is to sell my current ride for something smaller & more economical, since the family already has a mpv & family sedan for the general family outing. my new ride will be a backup or alternative only, otherwise it will be almost exclusively my own use.

p/s: for the same purpose, can rocco ferry 5 people comfortably? at least for short distance (like family dinner), because if we are going outstation the other family sedan/mpv would be used instead.
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Yan @ Sep 28 2010, 10:38 AM)
dude .. rocco is a 4seater car smile.gif
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dude, thats why i am asking "can rocco ferry 5 people comfortably"

sigh, why some people have to respond so aggressively? i wasn't asking blanks. i can't test drive every single car in VW unless i want them to brand me "gao gao zhan mou pong chan". the 1.4 TSi was really good and close to what i was looking for, but just wondering how "less good" the 1.2 would be, if anyone here knows.

thx 1st.
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:35 AM

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thx for the photos.

so i guess it's the same problem as the "4-seater" passat.

p/s: you might think i am being sensitive, but considering how the reviewers always says 4 seater, when some might still actually seat 5, only not so comfortable. but with the attached photo it clarifies the "4-seater" because they are infact individual seats.

sorry & thx.

so, how about golf against polo? the vw website is hopeless as it doesnt show the interior for polo.
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Sep 28 2010, 11:45 AM)
i haven't seen the new polo in person yet; but it should be able to seat 5; how comfortable will depend on body size (golf = good, polo = smaller), of course smile.gif
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actually, i thought the golf was a brilliant car. reading how the new Jetta will be a sedan vers of Golf, that it makes it even better choice.

too bad the new Jetta is still a long way to reach here, & i would probably want to sell my car by this year end if possible.

sorry (to yan) & thx again for earlier comments.
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post Sep 28 2010, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 28 2010, 12:00 PM)
The Polo would be a little cramp for 5 people but if they are all small sized then its ok. I had 5 people in the Golf MkVI GTI and its not really that comfortable either so I think the Polo would be a tad bit difficult.

But if it is for children and all, then its fine. You can actually see the Polo at VW Wearnes Bangsar, its sitting in their basement tongue.gif

Note that this is not their for sale model, its the stripped down bare version.
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thanks alot for this. this totally makes the Mk 6 as my only choice in my crosshair for now. smile.gif

ok, poison set.

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post Sep 28 2010, 04:03 PM

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azxel,

care to share the info for this new (4dr) mini? my, erm, someone likes the look of it, but given it's targetted market i honestly don't know much about mini, or its variant. anywhere i can know more about the specs sold here? both AP & imported.

sorry out of topic, tongue.gif
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post Sep 28 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(climacool @ Sep 28 2010, 05:04 PM)
You can test drive every single car in the showroom...I've test drove Rocco 2.0, GTI 2.0, Passat CC and Toureg V6. Been Invited to the lauching of golf GTI last year (the lauching event not like BMW F10 tongue.gif).
Dun worry dude, they are friendly and always welcome customer to test drive smile.gif
The SA call me n arrange test drive when there is there is a new model coming in Malaysia, just that i'm busy with my work.. rclxub.gif
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they might be friendly, but i would feel "malu" somewhat ma. What i intended was, short list a few models that i have more interest & then focus the test drive to only those few.

i guess i have a habit of "researching" stuffs i buy before i actually field test them.
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 28 2010, 11:30 PM)
No need feel malu man, its our right as a consumer to decide what we want to buy. Whether we perform loads of research or buy on impulse. Most of the time, they (the producers) want us to do the latter tongue.gif
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maybe la, but that's just how i am. and of course, i agree with your last statement. too bad for them~ i am not an impulsive buyer, hahaha. i just wanted something for worth, since the family is already taken care of with comfortable main transports, so i wanted to look for something that's good as alternative for family carriage & same time good enough for solo performance.

cars like Golf TSI don't come by often. most car are either too family oriented (means boring to the driver) or overly harsh and tiring for the passenger.

btw, i have been digging into the new Jetta that will be based off the Golf. it looks promising.
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post Oct 1 2010, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(nomar @ Oct 1 2010, 01:10 AM)
Info on fuel consumption for my golf,  just had 2nd refill..so technically only one time going thru full tank

- 1st refill at 329km ( SA provide half tank )

- 2nd refill at 892km - 48.84L - fuel consumption about 11.5km/l with 70/30% more on highway driving. Still in break-in period so even on highway I keep varying speed. Both using Petronas Ron 95, will try Shell V-power after few petronas refill.
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not bad eh...
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post Oct 2 2010, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(futobuta @ Oct 2 2010, 12:13 PM)
Haha.... I'm kiasu n kiasi (takut mati) person mah... So, will drive to the limit of my reflexes. Hand-eye coordination is not like what it used to be. GTi can give me the power when I need it mah. There's this little lag when I press on the accelerator of the TSI. The package is good.. just don't like the fabric seats n the lack of power seat for the driver. The gear shift and steering wheel of the GTi is more sexy too. thumbup.gif
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superficial differences that cost over 50k. very nicely justified. nod.gif

autoworld review mentions that Msia is the only market where VW's gti model outsells the more everyday model. guess we are pretty pricey on impressions over substances compared to the rest of the world.
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post Oct 2 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Yan @ Oct 2 2010, 01:17 PM)
haha... ur thoughts exactly like mine. i always wanted to get the VW Golf but can't bring myself to part with 200k for a C-Sec car. So with the coming of the TSI model at a much cheaper price.. it was a dream come true.. esp when u can always mod it to ard GTI's ori hp ..
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well my friend, some are just hard to understand right? smile.gif

imagine a market where honda manage to sell more fd2r than fd2, the management'd be laughing all the way during the year end analysis. and to make the whole deal sweeter, the customers are just going to drive them like regular cars. i dunno man, i really cannot understand.
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post Oct 3 2010, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Oct 3 2010, 03:33 AM)
for the mk5 they only officially sold the gti, the 1.6 model is only available through the importers, correct me if i'm wrong. and i think the price tag is around 160k, come on the 1.6 is way underpowered compared to the current 1.4TSI
and the gti is more livable compared to FD2R
i think because the computer calculate again according to your current average FC.
good to hear about its impressive FC and performance  rclxms.gif
btw the gti lacks cruise control  doh.gif
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hey...dont flay me buddy...that info wasn't mine.

they said so here...> Do you really need the GTi

btw, how is the fd2r not livable? i do know actual people who has it & does use it as everyday car. my point is, will it make common sense if other common people were have one and do the same? unless everyone else also has extra $$$ and doesn't mind the extra maintenance that comes with it. and of course, the power difference between fd2 & fd2r is obvious...so it is still acceptable if someone just wants it just for the pure extra power & speed.

but tsi itself on the other hand is already fast enough, feels good enough, & as yan pointed out, fuel saving somemore...& it's more sensible for everyday drive. (since futobuta said he isn't going to speed anyway)

so if 50k is justifiable for superficial differences, well, i dunno..i just state my opinion. the 50k are superficial, leather/electric seats, steering, etc. he doesn't have to agree.

EDIT : well, if futobuta is not a common person like my friend who drives the fd2r then i got nothing to say la, smile.gif

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Oct 3 2010, 10:05 AM
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post Oct 3 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(futobuta @ Oct 3 2010, 10:57 AM)
Well, I'm a normal fella lah. I'm getting a Golf as a weekend/nighttime drive. So, FC is not really an issue. I don't drive much either. My current go-to-work ride only clocked 28000km after 3 yrs of use. So, I guess the Golf will clock less. I just want a little fun ride. I like leather seats because all my current rides have leather seats and my wife likes it too. The only thing that the TSI is attractive to me (other than the 50k cheaper tag), is the availability of cruise control. Actually, 50k is not much if u divide it over the years... 2-3k a month installment is no problem lah. Go less 'berjoli' then can settle liao lor whistling.gif.
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sure pal...not trying to "jaga tepi kain", so hope you dont find offence. just that the reasons you gave are indeed superficial (leather seats can be changed, leather wrapped steerings too). unless you are those those who drives a) 120 is cruising speed b) 120~140 is overtaking c) 160 is absolute best; then getting the GTi is definately the way to go. infact thats what my buddy who got the type R said, he simply wants to drive fast wherever he could.

in that sense, getting the premium model justifies its price tag because they are built for it. (speed, safety & all). safety factor and designs are something no aftermarket can ever replace, hence, the premium price paid for the fastest and absolute highest spec model.

but since you already said you are willing to go for it for the reasons stated, well it's yours to begin with, so enjoy your ride, smile.gif

again, no offence.
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post Oct 6 2010, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Oct 6 2010, 01:17 AM)
LOL I really can't imagine a Beetle with 210hp and then with some aftermarket tuning, go up to 265hp!!  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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becomes a "horny" beetle, always in need to honk/beam people off the road.

p/s:just saw there is a new thread on the new beetle already. beetle trying to become porshe...=.=
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post Oct 12 2010, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Oct 12 2010, 12:25 PM)
Well it depends on what you mean by in between, if you are talking about prices, since the Polo at RM110k and the Golf 1.4 at RM160k both OTR with insurance, there are plenty of cars in between but mostly from the Japanese makers.

Unless you can find a good 2nd hand Golf MkV if you want a sporty feel but if you want to have the whole european marque, you can get a fairly newer 2nd hand BMW 1-Series.
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how does the 308T or 308VTi seats when compared to both VW's offering? just wondering if anyone has compared them. thx!
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Oct 12 2010, 12:43 PM)
Hrm, hard to gauge because I only sat in the 308 once and the Golf a couple of times. But I do know that the Golf's seat isn't that exactly comfy but maybe it gets better after more usage tongue.gif
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i believe the only setback for the pugs is the less than optimal drivetrain compared to the VW's TSI. read the piece on TSI implementation and it's brilliant!

having tested the 308 vti only (no chances yet on VW), but reading what others has commented, i am inclined to believe that pug offers better overall ride (driver seating & passengers). but again, the pugs are lazy to move...which is a stark contrast with vw.

it's hard to find an all rounder, one that drives & carries well. imagine if Fiesta or 308 comes with TSi...the fun-ness
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Oct 21 2010, 03:33 PM)


shiroko

many people pronounced it wrongly, siroko, schiroko  doh.gif

note : that's not how the scirocco engine sounds like
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easier to pronounce as zee-ro-ko.

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