QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 1 2010, 05:09 PM)
haha, well like i mention, everyone has their own beliefs and moral values. No problems there and as i have said, while i do not condone fakes, i have no control over other people's choices and values. We are a free world.
The only qualification - which is a big one - is that buying and selling fakes is ILLEGAL and infringes civil rights of others, so do so at your own risk and dont blame affordability etc later on when caught or prosecuted (in the near future buyers will be as liable as sellers) - cos the choice to obey the law or not is solely in one's own hands. Unless the laws are changed, please all be aware and take note.

Yeah, i have no issues about that Steven. Whether we like it or not though, cost is a major, major factor in whether one buys and original kit now. I'm now in a situation where I can afford to buy proper, original kits and only started in 2007. And thanks to Faiz, I am somewhat an avid collector now (United or United related only though).
I just don't like those smart ass comments in the previous page by some posters about how one is not a die hard fan, because he doesn't buy official product. Hell, I do know a fair few regular matchgoers in the UK who just do not bother buying original kits but only knockoffs as it is way cheaper than the proper shirt and they don't really care or go into detail in regards to the shirts like we do though. Still, they go to plenty of games. Each to their own.
But to label someone as not a proper fan, because he doesn't buy proper shirts, is a bit stupid in my opinion.
A story, during my trip over there. I was lucky enough to be in the company of some very, very regular matchgoers. Not only EPL games, but they make the European games as well, usually in group. One of the regulars in this trip, is an avid fan of United kits while the others, they never buy them and is of the opinion that kits are not for adults to wear. They constantly mock him, often jokingly though. Doesn't make them any less of a fan nor is the guy wearing the shirts any bigger fan then they are because I know they are the sorts of fans who does nothing but back the team and support them whenever they get the chance, often taking several type of transport to get from point A to point B, minimizing their cost so as to not make that thair only one and only European trip fo the season. Hell, I even know they got a Turkish trip planned for the Bursa game and one of the legs consist of a packed rented 28 seater minibus.
Anyways, after babbling for a bit my point is...the guy pointing out that person A is not a proper fan because he doesnt buy official products, clearly has no grasp of what being a fan is about.