yes. especially fool people like you that likes to give nonsense comment and coming out without any effort...if you thing that i'm wrong..correct me than...
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Oct 16 2010, 01:49 AM
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yes. especially fool people like you that likes to give nonsense comment and coming out without any effort...if you thing that i'm wrong..correct me than...
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Oct 16 2010, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Oct 16 2010, 02:04 AM) Hey bro, firstly cool down. Secondly, don't just rely on the tag number because fakes today are managed to copy them. What can i say after i observed the pics you've posted, sorry to say that IMO the jersey is fake. I've compared it to mine on certain criteria (physical of the shirt). Seems like the quality is not good enough to be labelled as authentic. As for the ALI staff, he/she just conclude your Man Utd jersey is authentic based on the valid product code. I recommend that you request a sample from your 'supplier' and take it to ALI for comparison, so that you can differentiate the details, not just the product code that MAY have been copied illegally. sure bro...i'll bring and ask more from my cuz..basically, the RM away jersey is 100% authentic..the ALI staffs have proved it to me and they say i don't have to worry about it, coz is 100% same of what they are selling, furthermore, i've mentioned earlier that my cuz is a legal and licensed distributor for sports merchandisers..if you were to be me, did you still don't believe it is ori..??yeah..i can't say much too because i don't have it on hand..i've demand several units from him,..bt for now he is away.. |
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Oct 16 2010, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 16 2010, 02:38 AM) Do me a favour and take clear pic of 1) RM Badge; 2) sizing details on collar; 3) closeup of shoulder stripes. As for your contention ur cousin is an authorized reseller, i find it appalling, unless ur cousin can show authority he us authorized by adidas or Nike to sell the shirts at cost price, he may end up answerable to his licensers. In business it is common sense that there are certain terms as an authorized distributor yo adhere to. Unless iIt is parallel imports or he is doing it illegally. In fact if its true i would lilke to know which ALI this is wjo are co-hortshm. Anyway that's beside the point. Waitfor more pics yo verify. Thnx for ur patience. Added on October 16, 2010, 2:41 amAnd may I add, ALI staff are not exactly the best verifiers of authenticity, though their experience would of cos give them certain level of knowledge . Only adidas or NikeĀ reps can conclusively say so. So in that sense their words may not carry too much weight if their reasonings are mechanical ones. My 2 cents with no disrespect meant to any ALI staff. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by kaka_89: Oct 16 2010, 08:04 AM |
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Oct 17 2010, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 17 2010, 02:37 PM) re kaka_89, from the recent pics you posted, I am of the view the shirts are fakes. I am very unwilling to share the information to you as I have more or less made up my mind that you are here (whether concioiusly / willingly or not i donno) to fish for information to improve the fakes which I must say are very good. Regretfully, I will be reporting your thread to Mods who I welcome to PM me for information on my conclusion, and let them decide. I can reveal to you there are 2 very visible errors in the shirts. I have had a quick discussion with some My-FJC members who share the same view. you are most welcome to reveal the the errors bro..i think is fair to let the other forumer knew about it if you said so.....as i said, i have no intention to sells fake jersey..since i got it myself from my cuz who supplies licensed sports merchandise to retail stores in our country...the jersey had been proven ori by the ALI staffs itself who had been working there for almost several years..they said, i'm not the only person who came there to clarify the originality of fake jerseys..those jersey can be trace directly trough the tag number who is specially made for them to keep track on their jersey...i couldn't say more..i'm still waiting for other jersey to be delivered to me...perhaps, we can meet and you yourself can tell us..Further, on a second look at the jerseys spread on the floor in your "cousin"'s pictures when he took the MU shirt, i can say most of them look fake to the naked eyes already based on the packaging etc. regarding the pic on my cuz floor, i have no concern about it..it may or may not be fake...it may be taken from the warehouse..various packaging..? it may originally come from their suppliers which they haven't yet pack it in a proper packaging...we can't say more about that unless we go directly to their warehouse.. owhh..and i forgot to upload one more pic » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by kaka_89: Oct 17 2010, 05:11 PM |
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Oct 17 2010, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 17 2010, 04:01 PM) Regarding the fake jersey issue, wanna clarify something. I recently bought a France home kit from Summit Adidas factory outlet. It cost me MYR111.90. So if I want to identify the authenticity, which website should I go to verify the barcode? is the france home kit is the recent home kit, or it was previous year home kit..?.. |
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Oct 18 2010, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 18 2010, 01:27 AM) Re kaka_89, I m really curious to know this Cuz of urs as if that's the stock he sends to retailers, then he is sending fakes. For that, I will point these out n I hope u take this as the end. first of all i would like to ask you, what does japan has to do with this..??..and for the second questions is has you yourself make the effort to go ALI and check all the jersey that there are selling..???..i think i don't have to mention anymore where does this jersey come from..it comes from the same factory from which ALI took..my advice for you now, pls do check in ALI first..1) there is no size S in japan. And don tell me that's factory defect as it speared in a lot of fake kits I've seen recently. 2) the adidas logo should be 'clean' from the back ie there should not be one whole white backing behind the logo. I hope u will do the necessary to remove the thread. I take ur word that u r sincere n do not wish to sell fakes again. so basically, you are saying that ALI is selling fake jerseys..wow..we should lodge a report to the authority then..??.. and as for ori, what you define ori as..??..for what i've known, most of our retail stores are selling this so called "malaysian ori" which means it only selling replicas jersey..so do do ori and replicas is the same..??.. |
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Oct 18 2010, 10:29 AM
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bro, pls understand that i have no offense here to prove that fake jersey are meant to be original...i have mentioned earlier that, my stand goes together with
1) relying on the my cuz statement that the supply of the jersey which come from the same factory as ALI, 2) ALI staffs affirmation on that RM jersey is original, based on their comparison and detail checked with their own jersey...(about the sizes, maybe i have overlooked it, i will rechecked again with the jersey at their store since i will be getting another stocks from my cousin, i will bring all the jersey and have them to clarify it, to be fair, i will post all the pictures of the comparison here..)... @chcher if its proven that all those jersey are meant to be fake as you said, and yes, i would probably would lodge a report on that, bt for now, i'm just waiting for another stock to arrive... |
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Oct 19 2010, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(CTU @ Oct 19 2010, 03:35 AM) I'm gonna be utterly staright forward here and im gonna say some harsh things but this is how i feel rite now and im soooo gonna let it out..everyone has been polite to kaka_89 here and try giving him a chance but rite now im gonna give another perspective on this..a harsher one.. first of all...you don't to need list down my family members, they don't have anything to do with this, who do you think you are..!!!...didn't your parents thought you some menace..!!!..you don't even know me or speak to me, or deal with me after all..if you think i'm wrong, you should give me some evidence or points as the other forumer are making here..judging based on your point of view i can say is useless..all i can is you are a person with black-hearted and try pointing negative claims without any claims to support...Simple fact is, its very hard to trust u kaka_89..u have come here before and had the guts to promote ur thread selling FAKE jerseys..that is a FACT..it was u who was selling them and i dont care if it was ur cousin or ur uncle or ur grandma who supplied u with the jerseys..u were still dumb enough to sell them off and even came here to sell it when this is a thread that clearly states no discussion or promoting of fake items..i dont care if u knew or not the jerseys were fake, either u didnt know or u knew, u still had very low knowledge regarding this thread.. U came on here asking whether ur Real Madrid jersey was fake or authentic..u even showed ur Barca shirt to prove u have authentic jersey..ok that was authentic..suddenly u pop up with another thread of jerseys to sell..out of nowhere suddenly its ur cousin supplying them and the story drags on and on.. im saying this straight up..i think ur Real jersey is a fake..i think either your story about going to ALI for verification is also FAKE or just the ALI staff or not that experienced..i think the jerseys u are selling is still FAKE based on the pics already posted..I think the jerseys u have in stock is the same as the ones u were previously selling..i also doubt the cousin of urs actually exist since u have changed the story about him so many times..n u still say u dont wanna wreck his career but the fact is u are actually doing it..give a taikos his details and let the taikos here check it out..if not, im gonna stick to my thinking that everything bout this issue is FAKE including ur cousin and the jerseys u have.. n dare i say it, the reason u posted those pics of that Real Madrid shirt was because u wanted to test the waters or the market here, whether ur FAKE RM shirt would be passed off as authentic here by the taikos..u were doing that so that u can claim ur FAKES or authentic and that u can sell them for RM180, supposedly a cheap price for authentic jerseys..what the heck..u were already accepting orders on jerseys that u did not have in hand..and u asked for deposits for the them too plus the fact u urself didnt have a clue whether the jerseys u would be selling is authentic or nor..what kind of business man does this? what kind of true jersey seller does this..? I tell u what kind of seller does this..FAKE JERSEY SELLERS!!! since u have already been proven of selling FAKE jerseys here before and if it is proven that u are trying to do it again (and i dont buy ur acting as if u dont know ur jerseys are FAKE) i and others here would kick u out if we could.. its people like u who kill the art, beauty n uniqueness of buying and collecting authentic jerseys..some here pay their hard earn money to buy jerseys and yet we have people like u who try weave their words and actions into making people fall for the FAKE jerseys.. THIS IS MY OPINION AND I CAN SAY WHAT I THINK ABOUT IT!!! judging from my history here, yes, i admit it and i give my fullest utmost apologize..bt, but now i'm trying to do the right thing...you better stop your nonsense comments bro..i think you have go beyond your limit... if you don't trust me on what i've done to verify this jersey to the ALI staff, then we can meet and together and judge yourself...as following the scheimel advice, i have went to adidas HQ in damansara, they told me that, they even can't mentioned the status of my jersey, is too riksy...i've told them about my cuz who is an authorized dealer on sport merchandise, and he say it may be possible coz they have their on franchises, warehouses and etc...i mentioned to them about the sizes, they have no comment on it..it may be a defect due to printings and also computer scanner, this is because sometimes they may fall into a shortage on supplying jersey, they have to demand from other country factory (etc australia they mentioned)..yes, chehcn, you are right, countries have different sizes..this error of printing may occur because of our system sizes is differerence due to other country sizes which resulted in an error printing of sizes..!!!... if you still don't believe me, pls feel free to contact this person » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 19 2010, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 19 2010, 01:20 PM) 2) Did you show them the poor stitching on the back of the badge? I am very very sure originals do not have that. You can even compare with any Adidas stores etc and you can show me if you find any with it. This is a classic poor embroidery for fakes as the originals would have a clean stitching for the badge. yes i showed them bro..they don't elaborate more on that matters, they say is too risky judging for an authentication..i asked samples from them but they didn't have because the HQ is just an office based, is not a warehouse, they didn't keep anything..besides that, i've taken all the points earlier into consideration, coz is true and conclusive, i do take this thing seriously..i never ever doubt with all the points that you and other forumers claims..QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 19 2010, 01:20 PM) 3) As mentioned earlier, the onus is NOT for us buyers to call adidas etc to verify for u. It is for you to get the necessary authentication if there are doubts. As far as i am concern and based on my own observations, the RM shirt is a clear fake. The fact that Adidas ccould not authenticate it on the spot confirms my suspicion. i have no comment on that bro, i think, that is the best effort i can do to by myself meeting the Adidas staffs and asking for their clarification..bro, if you know that you are a fake jersey seller, do you think you dare to go HQ and asking them for clarification..??..i kept asking him about the jersey, but he keeps telling me that is too riksy, cuz they may afraid it will may result in otherwise,QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 19 2010, 01:20 PM) 4) again you are bringing up your "cousin's stocks". I am very sure Adias would not allow have allowed their authourised distributors to undercut the margin so much below the RRP, unless it is done without their permission. Which would mean anyuone buying from this is helping an illegal cause. I do admit this is my speculation only, but it is one i believe reasonably drawn from the circumstances of the trade etc. If you have the guts, you can put your cousin's name out if he is not doing anything illegal. Then I can do the necessary checks etc, from CCM, from licenses etc. did you know the price that they actually get from their suppliers..??..he said to me that, they bought in bulks, they really get cheaper price, and actually they can sell cheap if they wanted too, but because of the trademark, they have to follow their procedure, since you said you are well known with ALI, i'm sure u aware the "real" price for a jersey right..??..don't said it you don't know..i think i have explain enough about the source of the jersey to the adidas staff bro..no names need here... QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 19 2010, 01:20 PM) 5) Even assuming your suggestion is true and that there was a printing error, then it is and rightfully be rejected stocks. How can rejected stocks still be sold at RM180?? i'm a just about to going into this business bro..i assumes it a lot cheaper if compared to the retail stores...it may be rejected items as i said..and yes, if i put it a cheap price, i think people will be more curios bro... QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 19 2010, 01:20 PM) (PS: the above is assuming that you had in fact spoken to the person, the person is who he claims he is, the card is not fake, and that you had not just taken a card without further talking to him, and that you had in fact asked him to verify the very same shirt that you posted pictures here. Like i said, onus is on YOU to verify and get the necessary authentication, and not asking us to call etc.) i have no worries bro, coz i think i've done the best here and i'm doing the right thing...This post has been edited by kaka_89: Oct 19 2010, 03:38 PM |
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Oct 19 2010, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(hakka_jin @ Oct 19 2010, 03:43 PM) i think bro kaka_89 should provide more samples of shirt to prove the authenticity of your shirts that you are trying to sell. All this while you only show 1 shirt which is the Real Madrid shirt (even that some of the member here doubt it's authenticity). It will be a big help if you provide more convincing evidence of you selling ori by giving more pics samples. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to accuse you of anything. i agree with that bro..i'm still waiting for some delivery..i post some ss when it is available..One can show pictures of 1 ori shirt (maybe it's his own collection) and the sell to others fake. Some customers feedback will also help. Other than that, hard to convince anyone to buy. That's my 2 cents. |
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