there's actually this other option of bread. it's called "adventist" and they used to sell it in Cold Storage. These days me and my family buy it from an organic shop in Subang. It is low in gluten and very high in fibre. kinda expensive though... RM6+ for 1 loaf (as big as Gardenia loafs).

Owwwhhh how much did u manage to kick off after 6 months???

My guy friend is complaining >.> he said I need to lose at least 10kg to look real good (and I aimed at 5kg initially) .....we believe it'll take 1 year or so but im hoping it'll be less than a year. although he's supposed to help me out but well no thanks to him for dragging me to San Francisco coffee last week for the buy1free1 @@ i can't help feeling guilty after that, although i took the one without cream and didn't even finish it.

Planning on a makeover ^^ i hope i'll look good 6 months - 1 year later from head to toe!!!

Good to know congratz and keep it up!!!

must revisit the this section as often as possible for motivations!

I hope drinking 1/2 glass of HL choc milk + 1pc of bread (with fruit jam) is good enough for breakfast. I told my friend I like Milo kosong and according to him, milo kosong is fattening ToT i can't think of what else to drink because i don't like milk (other than choc milk).

you eat it too! i can hardly find anyone else who does...! Where else can you find it? Cold Storage no longer bring in the product the only place we can find it is in the organic shop.

Due to the short expiry date, my family usually keep the bread in the freezer. It can lasts us 2 weeks from the manufacturing date. Whenever we want to eat it, just steam few slices. Used to this bread now but I only take the ones in green packaging dislike the red one.


faceless>> i don't believe in the bloodtype diet thingy...

2 weeks down the road of dieting and I couldn't stop taking sweets I guess home made ones (like souffle and pudding) aren't as bad as the cafes? Since my mum can control how much sugar to put...

Sometimes when I overeat, I experience guilt and I want to puke them out. My friend said it's a sign of bulimia but I told her I can't do it (puke them out I mean) so I suppose it's not O.O at least I hope I'm not.

xKeneshirox >> I heard coffee (plain) is good for burning fat as long as you don't put sugar in it. Try skimmed milk? ^^;

Ohhh I don't take sweets like Hacks, Ricola etc ^^ kicked that habit several years ago. If I were to take them, usually I'd go for sugar-free type but on very rare occasion.

my sweets are basically stuffs like cakes (cheesecake, anyone?), puddings, pie etc. Sometimes I take Chocolates. I could not give up on sweet stuffs like that ToT they kill me. I eat them occasionally and wouldn't restrain when I have cravings I'd feel guilty afterwards.

Now that I managed to pull down 2.5kg (need to cut a further 7.5kg), I need someway to kick this habit/ temptation otherwise I'm afraid I'll be slumped in a plateau. Gave up on my yoga; realized it's not my thing. Shall try dancing next XD

Hmmm Stevia... have not heard of it. It's not easy to get artificial sugar from the supermarket although equal is not a problem.

true, I just heard that coffee is good and there are companies who use coffee as main ingredient for their diet stuffs.

Jamis, what do you think of detox tea?

Hmmmmm i have a box of detox tea and it says to take after dinner. I tried once and I had to wake up at 2am to use the toilet. The visit is very frequent - I practically rush to the toilet several times till the effect subdued. Not to forget, it kinda gimme bad stomachache that I started breaking in cold sweat. Think I'll give it another try by reducing the intake. Phylium Husk... how often u need to visit the toilet with it?

K i'll check on stevia. it reminds me of maltose ^^

Hahahaha I see XD glad to know im not the only one! but at least you managed to curb it while you're away...

Nyahahahaha it happens. I need to constantly remind myself that certain food are my worst enemy. Losing weight is not that difficult in comparison to maintaining it. It worries me that I'll start to loosen up when I have reached my "target".

I think that would be - if you take it too often. The detox tea that I bought says drink it daily O.O I don't like that idea. I plan to drink it twice a month... that is not heavy reliance I suppose.

For me worst enemies are sugar, carbs and oily/ fried stuffs. I like to eat fried food. My favourite carb is potato as opposed to rice

Hmmm I stopped drinking all sorts of ice lemon tea, lime juice etc. Basically if I want to take something other than chinese tea/ green tea, I'll go for fruit juices without sugar.

lol Jamis, lime juice without sugar is way too sour. I suppose for Ghoss, that is the only drink with sugar kekeke. my mum always encourage to take sour stuffs (sour orange, apples etc) 'coz she said it burns fat (sourness) o.O but i really beh tahan if it's too sour.

Owhh I dislike detox tea but I still take them - once every 2 weeks. Reason being I think it's good that it helps to relieve your body from toxin built up from daily food intake. Then again, it's pretty much on personal discretion. IMO i don't think it helps much in slimming... and as mentioned previously, I hate the stomachache it gives me

All the best to you

tsk tsk harsh cut the dude some slacks ^^;

wow 5kg in just 2 weeks?! remarkable!!!

I've been munching on biscuits since my mum made them for CNY and god, I know I put on weight without checking. Yeah I didn't really exercise >___< 'coz I've been slacking a lot and was on break. Im gonna join a dance class @ institute nearby once my work schedule settles down a little. Yessshhh beginning the quest to lose as much as possible before CNY!!! *cough* yeah only 3 weeks XD

chicaman scared him off, he's not asking anymore questions.

yeah like xixo_12 said, browse through the topic. There's a lot of info.

I didn't hold back during CNY celebration & I let loose and as a result I gained back some weight. I noticed my pants are a little tighter!!! And my tummy is showing more too! Ouch, so now gotta go back to disciplining myself.

Alif, you can try to take more fiber and protein but cut down on carbs. you'll still need carbohydrate but take lesser (can't quantify for you unless you provide daily menu). Dinner should be taken before 8pm (if possible take it earlier like 6pm or so). Go for exercise, jog, morning walk, sports, gym etc (whatever works) at least 3-5 times per week. More vege and fruits, no sweets, ice cream, fast food, junk food, soft drinks etc if you can avoid. You might want to take skimmed milk or drink milo kosong (no sugar) for breakfast or tea time.

Avoid supper if you can help it.

Oh another thing... take the stairs instead of the lift. Say, your office is located on the 4th floor or 6th floor - take the staircase every day. I usually park my car a little further from the office and take my time to walk. Really now, I should start taking the stairs. Honeymoon period (CNY) is over, time to start taking things seriously

Wow you can? I can hold back for awhile but I'll start to get craving once I'm deprived of them for too long. When I do eat fast food, I usually try to minimize the calories (only take the chicken, eat chicken breast, remove skin etc).

the basic thing is reduce carbohydrate & exercise but you'll also need to reduce other unhealthy food. Cut down on soft drinks etc. Recently I was @ a relative's house and I noticed that 100Plus actually has less sugar than Yeo's Soyabean Less Sugar range (less sugar huh?). Interesting discovery... and I thought that usually packet drinks has slightly lower sugar content than soft drinks.

In my opinion, you should have a balanced meal for lunch - little bit of carb, vege, protein etc. Your dinner seems fine to me - but what about the portion? you might want to cut down on your rice and eat more vege, chicken and fish. Take an apple around tea time when you're hungry. I heard that carrots and sengkuang (radish?) has zero calory so it's alright to snack on it as much as you want (?) => yet to confirm whether it's true.

I was watching this new korean drama recently and one of the trainee seems to be overweight. The coach told her, "Feast like a king for breakfast and lunch, eat like a beggar over dinner." Couldn't stop laughing when I heard that!

As per statikinetic and xixo's reply. Your breakfast seems alright but you'll eventually get bored sticking to these two. Have a variety of healthy b'fast menu like oats, banana, pancakes, cornflakes, eggs etc.

Fiber and/ or protein = banana, high fiber bread, beans, nuts, grains

I find it hard to lose more than 5kg (and I gained them back pretty easily; just slack off several months and it'll haunt me); i'll hit a plateau

Yeah milo powder itself has sugar but I still like taking milo. I don't take everyday but several times a week (3-4 times). ^^; there's not much option in the office. What do you think about low sugar soya bean powder? I actually bought a packet previously and it doesn't taste like soya bean at all -_____- I rarely drink it and it went to waste. But when I think again, maybe it's better than milo so I might give it another try.

Hehe give myself a treat? I try not to hold back too much with my diet. Say I wanna take some junk food, I'll still eat it but in small portions. Holding back too much might cause binge eating or heavy cravings ToT

Nay I was just kidding. I know what you mean. It's the same with J&C section, people ask the same questions again and again although there's a pinned thread on a whole lot of ways to score for interview/ what to prepare. Apart from real stories, watching "The Biggest Loser" also provides a lot of motivation and inspiration.

Ah 14 year old kid? he might not be serious about it -_____- yeah more likely he's spamming.

Maintenance level... yeah I find it increasingly difficult to lose weight after I managed to shed several kg. Further reduce calories and carb? Hmmm I'll see what I can do if I hit another dead end in few months' time.

Gym is too expensive for me and I hardly exercise. I also lack the stamina. Played badminton with my cousin last week and I was out of breath after 20min+. it's bad -____- I really need to start to work out. Hopefully dancing will help. Might enrol into a class next week (although it's only once a week).

Your lunch is too early, in fact around 10.30am you'll call it breakfast or brunch! I feel that your meal time is not really...... normal? Besides, is the peanut butter the low fat type? if not then you might want to switch to a low calorie spread or eat it with natural fruit jam (like St. Dalfour's). I heard that a banana although healthy, has high content of carbs. You might not want to eat it for "dinner". Perhaps you can have the banana in the morning for breakfast?

Errr brother, your new plan not a good idea. Where's your dinner? Try to eat some vege though you don't like it. If you think supplements is good enough, then at least have some chicken/ meat with soup/ rice/ egg for dinner. if you restrain too much, it's bad for you. Diet gotta take it one step at a time, cannot rush. In fact, it takes time to see result.

only drinking plain water at night is okay. but if you got really hungy or you want to snack on something, I believe it's alright to eat some carrots (raw) and sengkuang.

5L?! Seriously??? I think at best I take about 2L per day.

I see... I'd usually pry on everything with lower calories like skimmed milk, low fat peanut butter etc.

Morning seems alright. Soya bean is good, full with protein but are you going with the packet/ bottled ones? Try not to if you can. They are very sweet imo.

Lunch and teatime sounds fine to me but it's not healthy to only eat fruits for dinner. You must not deprive body of food; your diet is not balance. Eating too little is not going to help. My advice is that at least one meal in a day must contain some rice (half bowl) - carb, meat (chicken, fish etc)/ eggs and vege.

Gotta leave it to the guys to comment on workout ^^

Every fourth day... okay let me give it a shot starting next week XD thanks for the suggestion!


I think one of the best way is walking too but aerobics, bikram yoga, swimming and dancing also helps to burn calories pretty well.

Ah basically it's just merely my opinion to have banana for b'fast. I avoid taking any banana for dinner because I usually take rice at home. These days I'll eat rice on alternate days (Monday rice, Tuesday no rice etc). Also, when I do take them, I'd eat very little; about half a bowl and sometimes lesser than that.

Only sengkuang and protein shake for dinner? You might get hungry when it gets a little later and you'll be craving for supper? Try having protein shake + 1 slice of wholemeal OR banana (as per statikinetic). be free to snack on sengkuang when you have cravings/ hungry in between meals ^^

Just my opinion:-

- baked beans in tomato sauce : as per einoif, high in sodium and it's preserved. No good.
- tuna spread (w/o mayo) : Okay
- nutella : Very bad!!! Although cover says "skimmed milk" it has high sugar and fat content.
- 2x hotdogs for breakfast...okay or not? : Try to avoid preserved goods. If you must, take only 1 hotdog and eat it with a thin slice of bread.
- egg yolk... im really not sure abt this. some ppl say very good, some say very bad: Yolk is good but it has cholesterol. Do not take it excessively (?). I limit myself to 2-3 eggs maximum per day.
- yogurt (not the low fat type): go for the low fat type; they taste just as good. You can also buy plain yoghurt and throw some fresh fruit slices you cut on your own.

Good insight and info, thanks loads! Sometimes I'm out with my boss to client's office. I know it would be good to drink more water but travelling makes drinking a little inconvenient. If I drink too much, I'm always looking for the ladies (sigh) and sometimes everyone (my bosses, clients) gotta wait for me to come out from the ladies to have lunch together; especially this particular office where there's only 1 lady's toilet at times I find these situation(s) a little embarrassing so I'll restrain myself a little. Yeah I do client servicing several times a week, not everyday though. I do drink more water on days I'm in the office. Haha another thing would be travelling from work -> home takes me 1-1.5 hours due to the distance and jam.

Yeah agree on the fasting comment. True it's not a good idea.

Oh no, don't misunderstand. What I mean is that protein is important/ good for you. If you eat chicken/ fish, there's plenty of protein. Otherwise you can get them from eggs as well. So maybe day 1 you take fish, day 2 eggs and day 3 chicken etc with rice and vege to keep yourself from getting bored with the menu

Ummm I wouldn't encourage soya bean from packet drinks. they contain a lot of sugar. When I compare Yeo's Soya Bean (low sugar range) with 100 Plus, Yeo's (kononnya low sugar) actually contains more sugar than 100 Plus. Go for an alternative. I'll be taking Soyo's Slim SoyPlus (in sachet) in replacement to milo. Hope it works well.

Sometimes i take 2 hard boiled eggs (only 1 yolk though) + 1 slice of bread for breakfast and it keeps me full for several hours.

yeah basically preserved/ canned stuffs contain high sodium (which is why they taste so good ) try avoiding it!

I'm avoiding all kinds of sugary drinks - only take the soya once in awhile for teabreak. When I have lunch etc, it's either chinese tea or plain water.


It's definitely not a workout. It's not a bad idea to do that because you would at least move around more especially for sedentary lives in office.

tedisgodlike>> aiyoyoyo, why waste money seeking a nutritionist when you can get all the info and advice for FOC here?????? Also, you can workout on weekends, unless you're saying you work 7 days a week from 7am to 10pm -_____-||


leong2084>> the very first question everyone would ask you is that:

"Have you gone through at least HALF of the 64 pages?"

If yes, then I believe you'll have an idea/ insight on what sort of advice ppl will provide here. Honestly, we do get annoyed bored when ppl prompt us with the same questions x100 times (and you'll get at least one daily). Basically it's very simple. Go through all the pages, it'll give you whole lot of ideas for food and workout. Create/ schedule your OWN dietary plan - that is something only you can do because we don't know what you usually eat, your environment, habit, body etc. You will know better what's suitable/ works because it could be different for everyone.

Assuming you got everything laid out, THEN you want to check HOW GOOD your plans are (in detail/ brief on your 3-5 meals plan etc). That's where you provide full details and ask for forumers' opinions to add input etc.

chicaman is playing the bad guy here but imo, he's not wrong. If you feel offended, then sorry to say, don't take it too hard. The journey to weight loss is even tougher than that


Frenixo>> Post it in another section pls, not here.

I thought kitchen chefs usually sweat like mad 'coz they're always wearing their chef's suit (crazily thick!) and boots (maddeningly heavy!) plus the workplace is really hot. Basically you sweat tons just by standing there in the kitchen

yeah yeah taste food, don't eat them. No curi makan either

Crap, I do get my definition wrong. To me "sweat" = "burn calories" (might be less, all dependant on the 'activity'). imo in kitchen he's always walking and moving physically and sweats more because it's really hot (+ thick work clothes).

Healthy menu, but you'll want more variety.

At home? Rope skipping, jog (up and down the stairs, around the house), basketball (house porch) etc? Just an idea, the guys will be able to provide more i think.