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post Jan 20 2011, 01:21 PM

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If you're budget sensitive, waiting may be a good idea, as the Vertex 3's introduction will surely depress the Vertex 2 prices. But only if you can avoid the temptation of buying new shiny hardware.

And I also think that most people won't be able to appreciate the difference between an SSD with SATA2 or SATA3 interfaces. Unless you find yourself regularly wishing your data can be copied at 400-500 MiB/s, a 'slow' 200 MiB/s should suffice. SATA3 won't improve on the access time, you're already getting that just by switching to any SSD.
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QUOTE(everling @ Jan 20 2011, 01:21 PM)
If you're budget sensitive, waiting may be a good idea, as the Vertex 3's introduction will surely depress the Vertex 2 prices. But only if you can avoid the temptation of buying new shiny hardware.

And I also think that most people won't be able to appreciate the difference between an SSD with SATA2 or SATA3 interfaces. Unless you find yourself regularly wishing your data can be copied at 400-500 MiB/s, a 'slow' 200 MiB/s should suffice. SATA3 won't improve on the access time, you're already getting that just by switching to any SSD.
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Good say, I would hope the "slow" 200MiBS SSD would be slashed to lower price while having sufficient space (80GB is ideal for me). ATM 60GB for 400+ sounds a little steep for me
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post Jan 20 2011, 03:41 PM

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Jus get oem intel fr owikh la, retail is way expensive n I don see any reason ssd will fail with proper use after a period of time
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post Jan 20 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(acther @ Jan 20 2011, 03:41 PM)
Jus get oem intel fr owikh la, retail is way expensive n I don see any reason ssd will fail with proper use after a period of time
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Well, SSD lifespan/durability is not like processor. Both products R&D & QA is not the same. Processor you can use for 20 years, but SSD are made by flash chip like the pen-drive technology just that they well packed like a drive.

If you ask me, I rather go for Retail for SSD (3 Years Warranty) = Based on RMA rate for all SSD I have sold (Intel, OCZ, Mushkin or Corsair)

If processor, I fully suggest you get OEM if you manage to find one smile.gif

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Seriously considering to get SSD. My current MB don't support trim, would that be a problem?
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jan 20 2011, 05:01 PM)
Seriously considering to get SSD. My current MB don't support trim, would that be a problem?
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Does trim requires hardware support too? How can I check for it?
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post Jan 20 2011, 05:22 PM

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does owikh still selling a good price SSD?
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post Jan 21 2011, 10:49 AM

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hi guys.. sorry..
i wonder where i can get good price for corsair f240? planning to get 2 units. possible to get rm1.5k each?
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post Jan 21 2011, 11:34 AM

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Are u planning to raid them up flez? I would suggest a revo if u planning to fork put that amount of money biggrin.gif cheers

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Hi, I would like to buy a ssd for my MacBook pro 2009 mode. Thinking of get a 60gb or 80 gb ssd, but I have no idea which one should I choose. Too many brands pop up in my mind. So may I get suggestions from you guys pla? Tq
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May I know if i use SSD connect to SATA 3 6Gbps interface, is it can increase the SSD performance?
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post Jan 23 2011, 04:14 PM

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have to see which model of SSD, since got some SSD throughput exceed 300MB/s. unsure.gif
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post Jan 24 2011, 07:52 AM

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In the case of your Intel SSD, you won't need it. Even the next generation of Intel SSDs will not be fast enough to require faster than SATA 3.0 Gbps. You will need to buy a SATA 6.0 Gbps SSD with an actual read/write throughput that exceeds 300 MB/s in order to make use of a system that supports SATA 6.0 Gbps storage devices.
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QUOTE(everling @ Jan 15 2011, 12:38 PM)
Yes, it is very silly. The manufacturers are going all shiny over the new SandForce controllers, giving us only 60 GB and 120 GB SSDs. Well, just how is a 500 MB/s read/write on a 120 GB going to interest me when I'm running out of space on my nine month old 128 GB SSD on my laptop?

Kingston! If you give us a 256 GB option, without the scary aggressive TRIM, at about RM 1,280, I'll buy another SSD from you!  drool.gif  thumbup.gif
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i pray on god they gives us a 256GB options. and i will definitely purchase one for my Desktop OS boot Main drive.(Plus Games) while all other movie, video, picture, and manga will be in HDD.
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QUOTE(acther @ Jan 20 2011, 03:41 PM)
Jus get oem intel fr owikh la, retail is way expensive n I don see any reason ssd will fail with proper use after a period of time
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zero failure up till now. 100pcs + sold biggrin.gif
u wont need to worry for any goods made by Intel, as they're the best in quality.
and as for SSD Intel controller is still the best in drivers.

QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jan 23 2011, 04:14 PM)
have to see which model of SSD, since got some SSD throughput exceed 300MB/s. unsure.gif
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ahh u can do raid0 with SATA2 SSD. ie grab 2pcs of Intel SSDs to make it 250x2=500MBps brows.gif


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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jan 20 2011, 05:22 PM)
does owikh still selling a good price SSD?
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well my SSDs are back in stock! thumbup.gif grab it before too late

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post Jan 25 2011, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 24 2011, 11:26 PM)
ahh u can do raid0 with SATA2 SSD. ie grab 2pcs of Intel SSDs to make it 250x2=500MBps  brows.gif
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That's incomplete information. Intel's SSDs are well known for their lacklustre write speeds. That RAID-0 setup would indeed have 500 MB/s sequential read, but you would also only have 200 MB/s sequential write. However, while SandForce-based SSDs can outperform Intel SSDs on all factors, Intel's SSD still has two things going for them. One is "good enough" and the other is cheap OEM versions. Unfortunately the retail ones are not cheap.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:36 AM

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when are the new intel revisions coming up ?? all i heard was they are using a smaller manufacturing process for the chips..

but nothing on the controller...

when can expect something better ah ??
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:44 AM

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Unfortunately Intel's G3 is specced to 250 MB/s sequential read and 170 MB/s sequential write. Still much slower than SandForce's best. However, there are expectations that the G3 will double capacity for the same price. Coming up sometime this quarter (Janaury-March). Potential buyers may be torn between extreme performance and limited capacity of SandForce SSDs or Intel's good enough performance and twice the capacity.

Source: Intel's 3rd Generation X25-M SSD Specs Revealed

People may think that more performance is better, thinking they'll simply be careful to use their capacity and moving things to and fro from their 1TB drives. But having already owned two SSDs, I'm preferring more capacity and good enough performance myself.

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post Jan 25 2011, 12:21 PM

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How long does a SSD life span? longer or shorter than a HHD?
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jan 25 2011, 01:21 PM)
How long does a SSD life span? longer or shorter than a HHD?
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SSD is more durable than HDD.
HDD uses moving platters,
SSD using chip only

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