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kahjye
post Apr 29 2011, 10:25 AM

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looks like i better head to crucial C300 128gb sata6 ?

sold by a guy for rm730...worth it aite?
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post Apr 29 2011, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Apr 29 2011, 12:59 PM)
Yes,better get it fast before someone else buys it icon_idea.gif
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it looks like a pretty good deal to me.

but..rm730 for a harddisk..is pretty derp derp LOL.
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post Apr 29 2011, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Apr 29 2011, 01:16 PM)
then get the Intel X18M G2 160GB at RM450+-,it's not as fast as the C300 but not slow either icon_idea.gif
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my friend doesnt sell it anymore..sigh= =

i think i will get the crucial unit..its good i believe..


Added on April 30, 2011, 1:06 amAnyway guys ,

i would like to ask for some help here tongue.gif


if i buy a 90GB ssd , how much total usable memory will i get?

how about the 80GB ones?

they will cut until 10gb?

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post Apr 30 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Apr 30 2011, 03:43 AM)
i think after format, usually is around 93% of the raw size. unsure.gif
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Oh...vertex 2 is a good HDD right?
going for the 90gb ones! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2011, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Apr 30 2011, 12:08 PM)
It is not the formatting that "reduces" the raw size as they were that small to begin with.

There are two systems for calculating file system sizes. One is based on base-10 and the other is base-2.

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         | Base-10                                    | Base-2                                    
---------+----+-------------+-------------------------+-----+------------+------------------------
kilobyte | kB | 10^3 bytes  | 1,000 bytes             | KiB | 2^10 bytes | 1,024 bytes            
megabyte | MB | 10^6 bytes  | 1,000,000 bytes         | MiB | 2^20 bytes | 1,048,576 bytes        
gigabyte | MB | 10^9 bytes  | 1,000,000,000 bytes     | GiB | 2^30 bytes | 1,073,741,824 bytes    
terabyte | TB | 10^12 bytes | 1,000,000,000,000 bytes | TiB | 2^40 bytes | 1,099,511,627,776 bytes


HDD and SSD manufacturers uses base-10 when working with storage capacity numbers. To them, 120GB = 120,000,000,000 bytes. Windows and Linux however uses base-2 when working with data. To them, 120GiB = 120 x 2^30 bytes = 128,849,018,880 bytes. The OSX of Apple however changed their definition a few years ago to use base-10 when calculating file system sizes a few years back. To OSX, 120GB = 120,000,000,000 bytes, so it may report to you 120GB but you don't actually "regained" the "lost" capacity.

So where the 93% came from? 120,000,000,000 bytes / 128,849,018,880 bytes = 93% and this is before you even touched the device. This ratio is also non-linear, slowly changing as storage increases. 1000 bytes / 1024 bytes = 97.6% and 1TB / 1TiB = 90%. You will also lose a bit more after formatting for the actual formatted file system overheads.

Using this information, a 120GB SSD will have 120,000,000,000 bytes, which converts to 111.75GiB and that 111GiB is what your Windows OS will use when reporting to you. You can work out the values for the others, as this is only high school maths. However, there can be technical issues that alters the actual raw capacity. For example, OCZ's new SSDs based on the 25nm NAND Flash process will have an even smaller raw capacity.
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so the raw capacity is around 90% ?
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post Apr 30 2011, 04:21 PM

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Oh , then i should go with OCZ VERTEX 2 90GB for rm585 by lingloong smile.gif
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post May 1 2011, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(donpapachino @ May 1 2011, 12:34 AM)
just jumped to the ssd bandwagon.

below is my team xtreem 60gb bought from seamonster for 2xx.

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my mobo abit ip35-e dont support ahci, so scores might be lower than rated. hmm.gif
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how fast is the boot up? laugh.gif
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post May 1 2011, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(donpapachino @ May 1 2011, 01:28 AM)
very fast compared to my old raptor 10k rpm or even current samsung f3 1tb. tongue.gif
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cant wait to get mine laugh.gif
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post May 1 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 1 2011, 09:48 AM)
X GB/TB  x 0.9313  smile.gif
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so its around 93% raw capacity for all types of amount in ssd right?
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post May 2 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 2 2011, 03:05 AM)
Do the maths, 0.9313x
I own SSD  smile.gif

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80GB and u have 74GB ,thats pretty good eh? biggrin.gif


ah , if , when i replace my laptop`s harddisk with ssd , that means i have to do a clean windows installation right?

and..how bout the SSD settings?

like the...err..AHCI mode or something...
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post May 2 2011, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 2 2011, 09:57 AM)
For a single SSD, you should always run it in AHCI mode... Before you format & install a fresh copy of Windows, enable AHCI under your BIOS configuration first.
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okay...then i have to do some research about it...cause i dont know anything bout my laptop`s bios :S
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ May 2 2011, 11:02 PM)
Official SSD-ed.  biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(gzero @ May 2 2011, 11:33 PM)
Guys, a quick question at the current market price of SSD, for example a Vertex 2 vs a Vertex 3

Isn't much more worth it to get 2x60Gb Vertex 2 in RAID0 configuration compared to buying a single piece of 120Gb Vertex 3? The Vertex 2 RAID0 should perform faster than Vertex 3 at a cheaper price right?
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People opt for vertex 3 coz of their laptops.

correct me if im wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post May 3 2011, 01:44 AM

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damn...i cant wait to get mine..wtf --
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post May 9 2011, 05:07 PM

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joe?

ronaldjoe u mean?

i just purchased crucial c300 128gb from him, waiting for him to post the item to me now.
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QUOTE(donpapachino @ May 9 2011, 05:29 PM)
lol even my entry-level SSD is considered fast enough for me compared to traditional HDD. not sure if sata3 vertex 3 can go much faster. drool.gif
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550mb reading or writing speed dont remember...its darn fast yo!
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Oh smile.gif

got what u mean now.

i am going to migrate from 7.2k rpm hdd to crucial ssd lol.

well...waiting for ronaldjoe to post.. = ="
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post May 10 2011, 07:56 PM

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guys how to know if my ssd is running on sata3 port?

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post May 11 2011, 05:58 PM

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Hello guys , today i installed the C300 into my laptop but den the windows rating for primary harddisk still stuck at 5.9...is this normal?
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post May 11 2011, 06:10 PM

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lol...re-run it for 2nd time and get 7.9 edi...yay cheers.gif
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post May 11 2011, 06:41 PM

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Im officially SSD`ed biggrin.gif

life will really suck from now without ssd lol

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