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post Aug 4 2010, 10:25 AM

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To the two dudes duking it out in the wee hours of the morning, I'm hoping you guys will give it a rest and stop that rather incessant squabble of yours. Many a name was called and intellects questioned, so fair warning to you two to stop it.


QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 10:18 AM)
I never get the idea why Blizzard changed the custom game menu that ranks on popularity. The old system works pretty well, as:
a) You get to lock your game to prevent random pubs from coming in
b) Your hosted game will have equal chances of being chosen by people, rather than 3-4 pages below if it's a low popularity map.
c) Mappers can advertise their maps easier, as it's somewhere on the list, rather than on page 5 of the current popularity system
d) People know what kind of game before they join it, from things like a game of Lost Temple with FFA or 2v2, to things like DotA's -ap or -ar mode

The current custom game system is flawed. Popularity works for Google, but doesnt mean it works for a game.
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The thing is, since mods will be monetized, its VERY important that popular mods will get more attention as it helps the community decide (As nobody's going to pay for a custom MP map that has very little players). Similar to the iTunes App store, where its a lot easier to find stuff that is generally popular since to a lot of ppl, lots of buyers = high quality (Yeah, this metric is extremely flawed, but that's the most fundamental of buyer guides)

Like you, I don't necessarily agree with it (Since it obviously just makes the more popular games even more popular and sinks everything else), but its perfectly understandable from a business point of view.

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post Aug 4 2010, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 4 2010, 12:23 PM)
Because it sets a precedent where games go up in price with no tangible improvement of quality or content to gamers if gamers choose to buy these games.

MW2 -> 60 USD for a PC game with no Sony/Microsoft console tax. Yet many people bought it. What happened next? Assassin's Creed 2 PC 60 USD. Splinter Cell US$60. And on Youbeli.com i see craptivi$ion's Singularity at RM220. If a popular game sells well despite the price gouging, the rest will follow.
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Well, in Malaysia's case, I blame our Activision distros. If you look at the last 2 years, all Activision games sell for a minimum of RM 180 (Unlike RM 150 which is the average for other companies) and of late, I'm seeing that rise to about RM 200... Hence, I'm ignoring pretty much all Activision games.

As for Singularity, hmmmm, looks like Youbeli is jacking its price as its only RM 200 at TSB.

Ah well, our local retail scene had a good run (In spite of that, I'm still a fan of EA SEA). Time to turn to DDs I guess.
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post Aug 4 2010, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:26 PM)
I dont remember EA begin far worse than current Activision back then.

EA was only infamous for making tonnes of annual sequels with little or no innovations.

What Activision is doing is, making annual sequels with little innovation, then, put a ridiculous price tag on it. Fast forward to a few months, here it comes the expensive DLC.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.
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post Aug 4 2010, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
Oh, Acitvison is not as bad as EA back then. ARE YOU f***ING SERIOUS???
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
Activision killed development houses like Red Octane, Neversoft, Radical and so on, on the basis of their previous game not doing well or their 100 million requirement.
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That hit list is nowhere near as painful as EA's list:
Westwood
Bullfrog
Origin
Jane's


QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
The bullshit with Harmonix where they are also with EA/MTV now, because Activision thinks Harmonix is a crap developer. Apparently, they are doing much better than Guitar Hero now.
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Infinity Ward went through the same thing with EA. Funny isn't it?

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
The whole Guitar Hero milking, and expensive guitar controllers with terrible quality. Is there any different with EA's milking with the sports franchise?
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When Guitar Hero starts getting yearly releases whereby you only get slight graphical updates and where the songlists are 90% the same as the game before it, then yeah, it would be as bad as EA's exploiting.

Also, isn't it a general consensus that the RB controllers are far superior in quality to the GH ones?

Anyway, GH is only ONE game series. EA were exploiting up to FIVE sports games and until today I've never seen a vile enough move like their super infamous buyout of the NFL for 2 years (Which nearly killed 2K's sports division)... When Activision decides to do the same with music games, then we can compare notes.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
The whole Brutal Legends crap,where Tim Shalfer also with EA.
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Yes, because clearly EA hasn't defended their own IPs before.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
The whole MW2 no dedicated server crap, with crap load of insults to the PC community. Then, followed by law suits and royalty withhold.
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And EA went through the same thing with Spore and Battlefield 2 (Which had no offline LAN or private dedicated servers).

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
Activision isnt much different from EA back then, except Activision is very careful with their exploitings.
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That is all drops in the ocean compared to EA's magnificent acts of evilry (So evil I can make up words!) since most of it is either Guitar Hero related or just MW2.
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post Aug 4 2010, 04:22 PM

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Anyway, JackAlvins, final warning to you. Another personal attack from you and you're going to get a vacation. evofantasy is discussing this in a polite and civil manner, please reciprocate that courtesy.

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post Aug 4 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(JackAlvins @ Aug 4 2010, 04:49 PM)
I did not. He did not. I did too. He did too.
Lighten up. You're not living up to your namesake.
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You being coy with me here?

"dota fag" isn't exactly a compliment.

This isn't a shooting range for you. Keep in line, or I will keep you in line.
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Aug 4 2010, 05:05 PM)
This thread :

Recommendation ---> Flamebaiting ---> Arguments ----> Namecalling ----> Developer Criticizing ----> Butthurt
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So why is this thread not locked yet?
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Oh c'mon, around here tangent isn't the enemy, its your friend!

Look! A giraffe! Woooo!


Seriously though, I never discourage tangents as long as it is a natural evolution of the thread. Flames and personal attacks though are a different story.
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post Aug 4 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 4 2010, 05:57 PM)
Stardock estimates 70% of total digital sales are on Steam

Anyway NPD says digital sales are nearly 50% on PC

35% of total PC market from a single source is still a huge margin.
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Here's news for you:
NPD doesn't (Can't actually) track digital sales... at all. That little statistic they put up on the Internet last week was based on a "survey".


 

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