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TruthHurts
post Nov 13 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(chahupping @ Nov 12 2011, 10:56 AM)
what does 6 pool and 7 roaches mean?? often see ppl type this but dun understand.
6 pool means build spawning pool when drone count at 6.
make roach den at 7th drone.

risk is.. if people rush you, your fcuked. But zerg to zerg cant rush cause the drone can kill the lings easily except when they upgrade it to speedlings.
protoss can cannon cheese you since they will send probe to scout. Terren will never rush a zerg. 100% they will wall-in and prepare for zerg rush or attack after geting a lot of MMM and tanks.


Added on November 13, 2011, 6:47 pm
QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 13 2011, 03:01 PM)
7 roach rush can be defended with a good bunker placement behind barrack and 2 supply depot wall off. along with 5-6 repairing scvs, it could be better if u manage to throw down 2 bunkers. a good number of marines still counter roach.
Unless he baneling the front door before moving in with roach with speedling mixed. But mass lings and baneling is enough to break the bunker/supply/barrck wall-ins.


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post Nov 14 2011, 11:55 PM

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I have yet to see female win in international tournament. But why female have their own "female only" tournament where else guy have no restriction if female wants to join the international tourney? Is male gamer to overpowerED ?

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post Nov 15 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 15 2011, 12:01 AM)
women always like that, they always want their own female only but also wants a piece of the male side.

good example is KTM ladies only couch. then u see in many sports also liddat one
But that one is fizikal and bukan mental. SC2 eleminates the body, the one we are using is the brain power for calculation, planning and so on. So much difference meh?
Dont tell me female brain power is much lower than guys. rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 30 2011, 07:16 AM

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1 more week for me to be on Land .. Weeeee SC2 !!

So little the SC2 community here. Not much people playing SC2 now ?
What channel you people usually be in chat mode ?


Added on November 30, 2011, 7:24 amIf you peps go 4v4 do invite me as i usually do 3v3. So 4v4 is nothing difference.


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post Nov 30 2011, 11:00 AM

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Benchmark .. My 8 ling in your base at 3.30min include travel time. Depend on map and search add 30sec.


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post Nov 30 2011, 12:30 PM

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10 minutes ? Depend, i could go mass roach + hydras or roach + a few brood lords. 3 hatch 3 queens 50+ drones roughly. 4 gas chamber.


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Added on November 30, 2011, 12:33 pmIm still Noob. i play custom cause waiting 5 mins for ladder match is sooooooooooo long.

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post Nov 30 2011, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 30 2011, 12:24 PM)
what can 8 lings do if they arrive at doorstep at 3.30?

ZvT

standard wall off finish at 2.45, marine pop out at 3.15. 3.30 8 lings reach? 1 marine stand behind wall shoot 8 lings for free.

ZvP

experiment on metalopolis. standard 9 pylon scout.

after 9 pylon, go to edge of base, depends see overlord or not, can scout opponent at 1st try. longest possible distance = cross spawn, probe reach at 1.36, realize pool spawning, at home throw down a forge wall, wall off complete at 2.25. 1 cannon behind shooting anyone?
ZvZ

assuming most zerg go for standard 14 gas 14 pool.

close air position, overlord reach at 1.30, which is about 12 food, opponent see you throw down pool, so i can throw down pool too, in a mirror build of ling aggression, the defender always have advantage because defender reinforcement can battle right away, dun need to travel to opponent base.

if cross spawn assuming standard 14 gas 14 pool drone till 16, get queen speed only start ling production, at 3.30 i will only have 2 sets of ling in production, and you have 8 llings at my house already. but as i said....defender has the advantage of stalling for time for more reinforcement. and speed queen is in production already. unless this 8 lings can win 16 drone + 4 lings, i still think 14 pool is more solid.
my advice for early pool lover.

learn from this guy, he is the professor in early pool. pin point all ur bench mark, throw down pool at specific seconds and micro the heart out of you, cuz early pool is a big risk.
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There are 50% chance the terren will not block or either still building the rax same as protoss, take out the pylon, you stop the production. Beside i usually early ling and does give me 50% chance taking them out either workers or structure. But you gotta have 2 side of the brain working as im massing worker and upgrading while control the ling harassment at the enemy base, so hard but im getting use to it.
Against 6~7 pool Zerg, Yes some Zerg player do 6 pool on me. By the time they reach my base, my lings already pop out and kill them before doing any damage.
Early pool depend on the player. Some can and some cant. And i do watch pro play, but all and all, the start of development is my way not theirs. I say pro go to 14 and some 18 and make units at 5 mins !! hmm.gif
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post Nov 30 2011, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 30 2011, 12:56 PM)
if you play terran or even play against terran more often in ladder, you will notice its not 50% chance block, its 90% block, actually i think 90% is understatement. a terran got no reason not to block ramp. maybe we can ask other fellow terrans for their opinion. kai, jeff, greenwood, echo, geney, me we are all terrans

and 3.30, theres no way the rax is still building, a 12 rax finishes at 2.45 unless your opponent dont even know how to execute a 12 rax...or going for 14 CC first.

for ZvZ im saying against 14 pool, not 6 pool.
12 rax finish at 2.45 sec true but you need to add time build 1 marines. 1 marines cant stop 8 ling unless you pull all the SCV for all out attack which could result slowing your resources and break your timed build.
I did play ladder, not much difference from custom game except the ladder require you to wait until they find an opponent for you which i really cant wait 3 mins or more. At least custom, you can see people waiting for you .. Weeeeeeeeeeeee.. Looks like a lot of people using terrens now days.

ZvZ.. Who ever mass speedling the most is the winner. Usually fast.
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post Nov 30 2011, 08:44 PM

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Well well, looks like this evofantasy talk like a boss of SC2 but yet he didnt even win at the FXO. Walk the talk boy, i can see you already talk like a pro but cant win the tourney.
No wonder SC2 in Malaysia didnt make to the top. Retards like you are always pressing people. Hey Pro, go win a tournement, you make yourself sound stupid without a title on your belt.

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post Nov 30 2011, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 30 2011, 08:41 PM)
ok, i admit i was trolling him because it seemed fun.

anyway truthhurts, 1 marine can win 100 lings if he is behind the wall. because marine is range, zergling is melee. not too sure if you can grasp the logic :?

sometimes, truth hurts.
Yup, thats my name... Truth hurts. Breaking people using mind game is fun.Even evo lose to my super troll skill. You notice i troll.. +1 for you, you are smart quest. That shows evo thinks he so pro, if hes serious with the SC2, he could have win the recent FXO tourney.
Look like he cant even keep his cool in simple theads, no wonder he lose in tourney, ppl troll him.

Sometimes, you need to mess with your opponent mind. than his strats, like what happen with Idra. whistling.gif
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post Dec 1 2011, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Dec 1 2011, 08:43 AM)
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i cant even get top8 at any local tourney~ aaaaaaaa sux to be me

i dun wan comment on terran thread liao~ i dun hav any title around my belt
Local tourney ? Who win the FXO btw ?

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post Dec 1 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Dec 1 2011, 03:59 PM)
but i dun hav any title around my belt to give comment~ very bad~ sad.gif
At least your not a stuck up as evofantasy(who thinks he's a pro), ill +1 in your respect.


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post Dec 1 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 1 2011, 04:32 PM)
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