how fast do you terran players expand to your natural expansion? Or do you turtle up first usually?

Sorry noob here, looking to improve my gameplay

Had a TvT against my friend after practising MMM bioball built. I am as fast as the hard Ai yet still lost to him. He got gold placement right after novice 50 matches =.=

He gets more units then i do and instead of medivac he gets 3 tanks before pushing. i have 2 medivac.

i lure with 2 marines so i can came from behind to finish off his tanks. Failed as his tanks just rolled slowly back the packs and in the heat of the fights with us both stim up i just completely lost althought he only have like 6 more units and his tanks just normal firing away.

conclusion :those medivac heals are nothing to a bunch of stim up armies.
the most amazing thing when i watched the replay, his barracks and command center are still pumping during the fight with all those armies heading strait as a backup.

counter plan?

how to counter ?

tanks.
its not that medivac heals are nothing, its tanks chewing your army faster than whatever you could've done. solution? get ur own tanks. lol.

btw, medivac healing is not so much during heat of battle especially on marine. its the prestim and healing to cover the 10 dmg inflicted is what made medivac prestim and ultimately, the MMM ball so OP. that, and medivac drops. imagine mineral line full of stimmed marine/rauders. pain LOL

reaper rush eh, i defend those with marines only.
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basicly u wanna say is,
24 marine
12 rauder
3 mediv
couple tanks.
=PURRFECT BALL

depending on number, reaper > marine due to the sheer amount of dmg.

turtle in my one base? and let him expand? he will parade his tanks near my choke point while rolling in more MMM at the same time taking over the world i mean the minerals.

I calculated a banshee rush and it just wont work with the speed he is getting his MMM. Marauders are really imba, the range and the damage is kinda insane and kinda intimidating.

Wow so precise, is this the magic number that we should all be trying to achieve? Or have several groups of MMM ball?

Learn to hit and run. Use cloaked banshees to harass, or just medivac drop MMs into his worker line. Force him on the defensive, since you can't meet his army headon. (Use nuklear launch detected to spook him as well. )

Also, BC > MMM ball.

my b.o ussually

getting barrack reactor - spam marine if see cheese is coming . reaper rush.
send it to mineral.
he sure spend lots of gas, delaying his tech.
get factory - starport switch reactor with barrack - couple medivec.
carpet marrine his mining field.

sound cool and easy right? why dont u try it and see how.

@Quaza
normally i already got lots of marine after his 1-2 reaper comes to harass, yes i lost few SCV, but he lost more, dead reaper, if he's not fall back.
not to mention gas, time he waste, making his teching phase much slower than opponent.

Wow, thanks for the tip!

What if he/she doesn't go for reapers and you have massed up your marines, would it be effective against a MMM ball?

just 4 to 5 marines will do, normally i build my rax next to my command center. so that the marine easily get to the reaper. not a big issue, 1 marine = 1 reaper

Depending on situation loh .... sometime you wall up and build reaver to harassed the enemy first than only you expand to your natural . If you see your opponent also fast expand you also can do the same thing .

Thanks! Usually I don't really know when to expand early or not especially if it is against another terran player. As much as I want to scout the map, but the siege tanks take out the units when I try to look at their natural (especially Lost temple). Not easy at all playing in the league, always kena wack

Better play against strong player cause u learn more and lose also the match is sure interesting.

I was 50% winning rate in unrank novice. Played one game with my friend who are good. Strait away i know what is my weakness. Then 10 win in a row after overcome that weakness.

#i wish i have 2 brain so one can do the micro and one to remind me to make keep churning out scv

i also kena whack always oo in silver league.
always lose when mid game transition.

oh now Zerg found new way to trample over Terran,
the "MAGIX BOX" Mutalisk!
not soo easy to execute, not soo hard also.
fight with frens, and surely its powerful.
4 Thor + Marine + 2 Mediv = mass of Mutalisk + Zerg
i spend alot to see all unit died.

i can only expand to 1 nearby mineral. he keep me contain.
ofc his experience in RTS better, ( a semifinalist wcg wc3)
but i can see i left behind in macro management.

ok QQ, Mutalisk is imba!
i really hope got someone comes with new way to counter this.

option that seems to work as i tried it (not soo effective)
few thors, mass marine, few mediv, 6-7 vikings.
while he just speedling and mass Mutalisk.
after a long push and back game, im lost, when Ultralisk take over Zergling place.
DAMN!

did i tell you to do that?

How can I find those better players? I usually play custom 1v1 game with my friends so I learn a lot from them as well. One of them is a very good protoss player. At the same time another friend of mine would be the oberver and help comment on mistakes

Any high ranking league players here?

perhaps getting the Strategy Guide may improve your skill

Cool, that sounds awesome. When I was in the UK previously, I saw a Broodwar and a WC3 strategy guide in print copy. Do you know if there are any print copies of the SC2 guide here in Msia?

lol...dont need waste money la..just watch more gosu replays and learn from them can d...