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thejols
post Aug 19 2010, 05:26 PM

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i get 1 motorbike, go jalan2 at nearby opponent base.
while going banshee, i start it last nite after getting pawned like that before.
thx replay. lol.
the result is quite good. streak 5.

i just mass marine bunker turtle in case bunch of marauders rush.
and mass marine defensive also protect from pesky reaper rush.
im just afraid of mass marine + siege tank rush.
im not gonna hold it for sure.
mass zergling also failed me last nite ^.^

p/s from Bronze POV biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2010, 10:37 PM

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Why is it every Zerg player I meet loves to muta rush me? Jeez I am getting to a point where I build turrets/bunkers whenever there's a suspicious lull in the battle.
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post Aug 19 2010, 11:07 PM

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Muta is really common against terran. That's the only way to contain a terran to outmacro them. If not zerg has no chance against mech

This post has been edited by Moonflown: Aug 19 2010, 11:35 PM
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post Aug 20 2010, 12:47 AM

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you should view the match where TLO use Zerg to beat Terran Mech.
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post Aug 20 2010, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 20 2010, 12:47 AM)
you should view the match where TLO use Zerg to beat Terran Mech.
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see the main reason on why moon mentioned muta

and see the video again.
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post Aug 20 2010, 11:19 AM

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Macro macro macro!!! i have a friend who are really good in macro. It makes all the different in the game.

He just macro and parade his armies near my base containing me. I just cant retaliate and win no matter what as his armies is just huge compared to mine. while i busy balance out the armies while micro defending my base, he just expended and in come those flying monster.

He told me he just focus more on macro making sure his armies factory are non stop working. Being too used to Dota, this is really hard to do.

But i really come to amazed at those pro level players who are damn good in micro and macro. I need 2 brains.
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post Aug 20 2010, 01:04 PM

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any1 of u tried tlo's build vs whtiera for IEM yet?
cant seemed to make it work...
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post Aug 22 2010, 01:00 AM

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I have to ask you guys. How do you use Terran to break into a defended base? I always have this inability to finish off my opponent effectively despite dominating the opening battles.
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post Aug 22 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Aug 22 2010, 01:00 AM)
I have to ask you guys. How do you use Terran to break into a defended base? I always have this inability to finish off my opponent effectively despite dominating the opening battles.
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post Aug 22 2010, 03:29 PM

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i met a gold player zerg (my placement match after bronze), indeed he keep me in base, after his Baneling strats failed, its seems im in good favour, until he quickly switch to Muta harras,
i defend quite well but superior unit soon comes to end my wall of defend.
yes macro, control over map.

its even hard to get out thor (got 3 at least).
while having expansion, he keep harass even at the cost of losing Muta.
just to make sure SCV dead.

the good thing about multi expansion and map control, give me some idea at least.

against some zerg muta player, i did quite well. its seems in difrent good hand, it can be very2 deadly.


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post Aug 22 2010, 06:45 PM

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i love terran but to me terran very imba... especially against zerg... =D MMM FTW!!
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post Aug 22 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 20 2010, 08:33 AM)
see the main reason on why moon mentioned muta

and see the video again.
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this was what moon mentioned.

QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 19 2010, 11:07 PM)
Muta is really common against terran. That's the only way to contain a terran to outmacro them. If not zerg has no chance against mech
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my point was that if you look at TLO's game, he didn't muta against the terran and still has a chance against mech.

oh btw, i muta against a terran today. tongue.gif cos early scouting already see the fella bunkering in.
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post Aug 22 2010, 07:06 PM

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Going muta is only one of the viable options against meching/turtling terran. It still largely depends on map's variables.

Most of my statements are based on certain assumptions that might not apply to ALL games. For example rather than going muta, ambushing terran with lings/burrow roaches could make a big difference than battling head-on with mech army.

I've also watched a Korean matche where the terran won by destroying 3 hatcheries simultaneously with MMM drop. That's where mutas are important to keep your bases safe from dropships. Everything else is way too slow in such occasion

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post Aug 22 2010, 07:21 PM

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it's still a good option nevertheless. terran thors / siege tanks / MMM are awesome combo.
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post Aug 22 2010, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 22 2010, 06:49 PM)
this was what moon mentioned.
my point was that if you look at TLO's game, he didn't muta against the terran and still has a chance against mech.

oh btw, i muta against a terran today. tongue.gif cos early scouting already see the fella bunkering in.
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the reason moon mentioned to muta, is to contain the terran. TLO ALREADY contained the terran. look at how many bases TLO had vs cola. nuff said. lol.
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Hi, I was wondering if I had X number of Battlecruisers, is there a way to order all the Yamato Guns from all the Battlecruisers to fire simultaneously on a single target? I'm using this for the final mission on Kerrigan, but I find it a bit tediously to select each battlecruiser to target her.
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QUOTE(naith @ Aug 22 2010, 07:54 PM)
Hi, I was wondering if I had X number of Battlecruisers, is there a way to order all the Yamato Guns from all the Battlecruisers to fire simultaneously on a single target? I'm using this for the final mission on Kerrigan, but I find it a bit tediously to select each battlecruiser to target her.
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post Aug 22 2010, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 22 2010, 07:51 PM)
the reason moon mentioned to muta, is to contain the terran. TLO ALREADY contained the terran. look at how many bases TLO had vs cola. nuff said. lol.
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aiyah you still don't understand. we all already know that.

i just saw moon's sentence

Muta is really common against terran. That's the only way to contain a terran to outmacro them. If not zerg has no chance against mech

so i quoted TLO match for containing Terran without Muta la, get it yet? smile.gif

of course muta is convenient, i also use muta to contain terran. cos they AA / AS. useful combo. took out the Terran SCV and Supply Depot being primary offensive, paired with zerglings.
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post Aug 22 2010, 08:24 PM

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Jeez, TvTs always degenerates into stalemates with occasional harassment. lol.
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post Aug 22 2010, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 22 2010, 08:09 PM)
aiyah you still don't understand. we all already know that.

i just saw moon's sentence

Muta is really common against terran. That's the only way to contain a terran to outmacro them. If not zerg has no chance against mech

so i quoted TLO match for containing Terran without Muta la, get it yet? smile.gif

of course muta is convenient, i also use muta to contain terran. cos they AA / AS. useful combo. took out the Terran SCV and Supply Depot being primary offensive, paired with zerglings.
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and i replied you with the intention to point out that its not that TLO didnt need muta, he just already "won" when hes having so many bases against terran's 2 base. that and what TLO does, cant really apply to "normal non-pro" players considering the flexibility in his strats and how he micro his units on the fly.

case in point:
i've tried TLO's fast factory builds, shit tends to faill all the damn time doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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