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darkplacid
post Sep 28 2010, 10:19 AM

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Zerg in SC2 not that mobile without creep... Big map encounters are big problem.

For me Terran is Bane-Lisk -> Ultra

Protoss Muta-Ling -> Infestor

Infestor well good for Terran but not so effective because all Terran units have range so they can attack.

Protoss if they go heavy Zealots-> Collusus... A good FG can block to make a good wall to block the zealots from attacking then NP the cullosus and use back againts them.

Only use infestors for Terran is you having trouble with mass bio ball. If you see them going mech. A good magicbox trick with muta can handle thors easily.
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:37 AM

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do fungal growth works on colossi?
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 28 2010, 10:37 AM)
do fungal growth works on colossi?
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Yes they do. Fungal growth works on every units but only ultralisk will not get stuck but still will receive damage from FG

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evofantasy
post Sep 28 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 28 2010, 10:19 AM)
Zerg in SC2 not that mobile without creep... Big map encounters are big problem.

For me Terran is Bane-Lisk -> Ultra

Protoss Muta-Ling -> Infestor

Infestor well good for Terran but not so effective because all Terran units have range so they can attack.

Protoss if they go heavy Zealots-> Collusus... A good FG can block to make a good wall to block the zealots from attacking then NP the cullosus and use back againts them.

Only use infestors for Terran is you having trouble with mass bio ball. If you see them going mech. A good magicbox trick with muta can handle thors easily.
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actually infestors are the core unit vs terran for midgame (see cool/ check/ idra)...
it outranges most units and can stop them in their track for ur units to surround including ur ultras (and recently shown in GSL baneling carpet bomb on tanks)...
if the terranlack detection, jz burrow and infested marine his mineral line etc...


Added on September 28, 2010, 4:45 pmoh ya nt to mention if he goes thor u can neural parasite it...
some of cool's games he even rush for infestors and defended with infestor + speedlings

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post Sep 28 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 28 2010, 04:40 PM)
actually infestors are the core unit vs terran for midgame (see cool/ check/ idra)...
it outranges most units and can stop them in their track for ur units to surround including ur ultras (and recently shown in GSL baneling carpet bomb on tanks)...
if the terranlack detection, jz burrow and infested marine his mineral line etc...


Added on September 28, 2010, 4:45 pmoh ya nt to mention if he goes thor u can neural parasite it...
some of cool's games he even rush for infestors and defended with infestor + speedlings
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Come on... Learn slowly... What you see you can't do straight away... Not everybody can do that much micro... Basic builds are what is needed for people who are learning... Watch game are all good and all but doing it straight away?

You watch initial d i know so it like asking you to go race straight away after watching. Hardcore SC2 people are spoiling fun sometimes.

These games are suppose to be fun for some people not everybody must be a platinum or diamond league player.

Tell people the basic unit build and let them learn from there. This is why this thread are for not spamming high level plays at low level players.
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post Sep 28 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 28 2010, 05:12 PM)
Come on... Learn slowly... What you see you can't do straight away... Not everybody can do that much micro... Basic builds are what is needed for people who are learning... Watch game are all good and all but doing it straight away?

You watch initial d i know so it like asking you to go race straight away after watching. Hardcore SC2 people are spoiling fun sometimes.

These games are suppose to be fun for some people not everybody must be a platinum or diamond league player.

Tell people the basic unit build and let them learn from there. This is why this thread are for not spamming high level plays at low level players.
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i think infestors are basic enuff since u need em to get to t3 rite?
wut's the point of not using such a wonderful unit...
when i am new to zerg i loved infestors...

i list out the name of the pros so that the newer players have some idea of its potential rather than jz throwing it out as a useless/ not-effective unit (just like most caster units)
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post Sep 28 2010, 06:01 PM

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6 POOL IN TOP 8 WON THE FIRST GAME
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post Sep 28 2010, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 28 2010, 06:01 PM)
6 POOL IN TOP 8 WON THE FIRST GAME
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can you defend against a 6pool if you scout with the 10th worker ?
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post Sep 28 2010, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 28 2010, 06:52 PM)
can you defend against a 6pool if you scout with the 10th worker ?
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not on a 4 player map and u missed the first base
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:01 PM

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Ima scout with my 7th drone against zerg... got 6pool cheesed and never wanna fall to it again. >.>
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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 28 2010, 11:01 PM)
Ima scout with my 7th drone against zerg...  got 6pool cheesed and never wanna fall to it again. >.>
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Even if u 10 pool... u will have 6 lings out by the time he reaches u
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post Sep 29 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 28 2010, 05:28 PM)
i think infestors are basic enuff since u need em to get to t3 rite?
wut's the point of not using such a wonderful unit...
when i am new to zerg i loved infestors...

i list out the name of the pros so that the newer players have some idea of its potential rather than jz throwing it out as a useless/ not-effective unit (just like most caster units)
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I suppose I have to learn to use one of those damnable things one of these days. Planning to hardcore zherk soon. whistling.gif
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post Sep 29 2010, 04:10 PM

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Turd league reporting in

One stupid victory against a mass carrier user in 2v2
4 more placement to go
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post Sep 29 2010, 04:50 PM

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Yesterday play 3s, finish off 1 protoss & 1 terran. Look like we going to win, but 3 of us lose to a combination of MMM, tank, viking & BC. My 200/200 become 25/200. I'm using muta & hydra.
Afterthat my teammate scold us kaw kaw...than challenge oppenent for 1 vs 1..lol
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post Sep 29 2010, 04:53 PM

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Big Strategy Change... Ultralisk is not a viable counter to Thor anymore after patch 1.1.1. Blizzard made a stealth nerf to them to remove the PF+SCV glitch instead of fixing the splash mechanic.
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post Sep 29 2010, 04:57 PM

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Yesterday, i just used nydus worm to bring all my hydras...to keep attack and harrass enemy base.... totally crippled them

Nydus is really good hehehe rclxms.gif
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post Sep 29 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 29 2010, 04:53 PM)
Big Strategy Change... Ultralisk is not a viable counter to Thor anymore after patch 1.1.1. Blizzard made a stealth nerf to them to remove the PF+SCV glitch instead of fixing the splash mechanic.
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magic box mutas or infestor's neural parasite i guess...
after that just bring ur lings in...
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post Sep 29 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 29 2010, 05:10 PM)
magic box mutas or infestor's neural parasite i guess...
after that just bring ur lings in...
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Not a direct counter... Just notice there are actually no hard counter unit for Terran Mech.
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post Sep 29 2010, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 29 2010, 05:12 PM)
Not a direct counter... Just notice there are actually no hard counter unit for Terran Mech.
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well u dun really need hardcounter from wut i watched currently...
cool jz omgbbqwtfpwned nexliveforever on GSL semis (2-0 in cool favor atm)...

fungal growth + baneling carpetbomb is freaking sick! (and totally awesome to watch)

zerg army are mobile vs mech and it just ur best counter...
whenever mexliveforever move to atk, cool jz counter atk the terran first...


Added on September 29, 2010, 6:17 pmcool 3-0 nexliveforever and is now in GSL finals!

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post Sep 29 2010, 06:27 PM

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AFAIK, all the interviews, only frutty says thank you in reply without the translator Y/N?

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