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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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TruthHurts
post Dec 2 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Dec 2 2011, 09:58 AM)
sometimes winning doesnt mean u need to do frontal assault , head to head~ try to do some rush/cheese/timing/drop but i do not encourage cheese much as i displease/dislike cheese myself
i always cheese while expanding, and i did do some comparison rate with Quest a.k.a Spanishiwa build (Except he make gas)(Normal human rate) vs Very Hard A.I replay and its almost the same time his expand growth in 5~7 min mark. Its legit strat so i combine cheese and expand together till i got a solid Zerg build.
But he Insane A.I way surpass my build, they even micro shoot my Zergling !! cry.gif
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post Dec 2 2011, 12:46 PM

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The insane AI gains 7 minerals per cycle, but only 5 minerals is reduced from the patch

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post Dec 2 2011, 01:11 PM

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ok, i will upload a zerg vs insane terran replay tonight. but actually im not sure if i can beat...maybe tal darim altar can...
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post Dec 2 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Keenxlimit @ Dec 2 2011, 12:46 PM)
The insane AI gains 7 minerals per cycle, but only 5 minerals is reduced from the patch
WTFARK !! shocking.gif Is that true !?!?
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post Dec 2 2011, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Dec 2 2011, 04:11 PM)
WTFARK !!  shocking.gif  Is that true !?!?
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Yesh, and I don't understand why you wanna beat Insane AI so badly. With 7 minerals per cycle, your only timing window to beat them is prolly within the first 6-8 minutes. After that, with imba income, they will multiply like rabbits. -__-;
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post Dec 2 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Dec 2 2011, 04:22 PM)
Yesh, and I don't understand why you wanna beat Insane AI so badly. With 7 minerals per cycle, your only timing window to beat them is prolly within the first 6-8 minutes. After that, with imba income, they will multiply like rabbits.  -__-;
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they have a "multiplication cap" based on the timing windows as scripted into their system. of course, later timing windows gets harder though not impossible for good players and/or AI abusers brows.gif
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post Dec 2 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 2 2011, 04:23 PM)
they have a "multiplication cap" based on the timing windows as scripted into their system. of course, later timing windows gets harder though not impossible for good players and/or AI abusers  brows.gif
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I used to keep a group of muta outside of AI base to harass if they push out. But once they reach your expo, even if u harass, they will finish the expo before returning to base. sometimes cannot abuse AI. T_T
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post Dec 2 2011, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Dec 2 2011, 04:22 PM)
Yesh, and I don't understand why you wanna beat Insane AI so badly. With 7 minerals per cycle, your only timing window to beat them is prolly within the first 6-8 minutes. After that, with imba income, they will multiply like rabbits.  -__-;
I MUST DEFEAT THE INSANE A.I !! NO MATTER WHAT !! AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGgggggggggggggggggg !!!
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post Dec 2 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Dec 2 2011, 04:51 PM)
I MUST DEFEAT THE INSANE A.I !! NO MATTER WHAT !! AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGgggggggggggggggggg !!!
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choose zvz do 8 pool bring all zerglings n drone make 2 spine u will win b4 5 min~ biggrin.gif
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post Dec 2 2011, 06:36 PM

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tried 2 times today, both lose at at end game there some mistake. but its definitely possible. all the pushes in the early game are easy to fend off until 150 supply i hadno problem but later stage in the game i kept on swap cracklings for PF i sac too much couldnt hold his all in after he mine out.

basically what i did was 15 hatch 15 gas 15 pool into 2 queen then drone till about 30 supply then keep on make lings. make about 3 spines. take back gas, double evo for upgrade now then lair then double 2-2 then infestor pit hive for 33 crackling. take 3rd base after i clear off his about 100 food push. (a scary one with raven hellion marauder marine)

then dun repeat my mistake. start to make baneling at about 100 food because sling even if get surround takes awhile to chew off the ball, blings will be very helpful in that situation. i purposely didnt go muta, nydus on taldarim altar so that i didnt abuse the AI.


Added on December 2, 2011, 6:39 pmsc2rep is down, cant upload

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post Dec 3 2011, 05:28 AM

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Just played 1v1 on insane AI, its not bad...
On Xel'Naga I did proxy hatch then mass spines, worked out well
On steppes of war, mass speedlings -> Infestor speedling -> Hydra infestor
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post Dec 3 2011, 11:35 AM

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Com Insane A.I beat me !! cry.gif I scared people can beat me .. i think im in the Bronze. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Dec 3 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Dec 3 2011, 11:35 AM)
Com Insane A.I beat me !! cry.gif I scared people can beat me .. i think im in the Bronze. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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I think you have too high expectations.. -__- If you can already beat very hard AI with no problem, you can already be in top 8 bronze.

Wanna be higher league? one base all-in all the way to GM. tongue.gif btw, u haven't play ladder yet?
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post Dec 3 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Dec 3 2011, 11:35 AM)
Com Insane A.I beat me !! cry.gif I scared people can beat me .. i think im in the Bronze. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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Sorry to say this but if you ladder like vs ai you will lose to every player.

I know, sometime, truth hurts.
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post Dec 3 2011, 01:54 PM

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I iz custom game player. I rate my own custom game play. I assume im Bronze league. I always custom game 1.


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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Dec 3 2011, 01:53 PM)
Sorry to say this but if you ladder like vs ai you will lose to every player.

I know, sometime, truth hurts.
What to do !! cry.gif Network is so damn sloww.. if i play sure lag like hell !! 100% lose laaa !! I have to fight comps. cry.gif

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post Dec 3 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Dec 3 2011, 01:54 PM)
I iz custom game player. I rate my own custom game play. I assume im Bronze league. I always custom game 1.


Added on December 3, 2011, 1:56 pm

What to do !! cry.gif Network is so damn sloww.. if i play sure lag like hell !! 100% lose laaa !! I have to fight comps.  cry.gif
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play ladder. play ladder. PLAY LADDER!!! doh.gif go to cc laa. ur experience will increase 100x. trust me.
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post Dec 3 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Dec 3 2011, 02:10 PM)
play ladder. play ladder. PLAY LADDER!!!  doh.gif  go to cc laa. ur experience will increase 100x. trust me.
CC ?? I sked keylogger. Found 2 type of keylogger .. one attach to keybord plug behind the CPU and another is sofware with password so you cant turn it off. ohmy.gif


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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Dec 3 2011, 03:14 PM)
CC ?? I sked keylogger. Found 2 type of keylogger .. one attach to keybord plug behind the CPU and another is sofware with password so you cant turn it off.  ohmy.gif
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im one of the player laddering at cc. my pc @ home are netbooks so i can only surf net bk home. its fun and give u better experience. try it smile.gif
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post Dec 3 2011, 04:00 PM

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i alwiz laddering at ftz havent hav any problem~ @@

btm is vs insane ai terran as zerg
macro game no cheese~
@@ or abuse thou
Baneling roll~

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Dec 3 2011, 04:03 PM
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post Dec 4 2011, 05:37 AM

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use CC's account la. blitzone

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