The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!
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 Apr 28 2011, 07:03 PM
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for me,if i'm on ZvZ,i'd scare my opponents into thinking i do ling rush...then i build up 6-7 banelings,then i push my way towards his mineral line.
if he attack with his lings (usually poor micro by sending mass lings to kill my banelings).. then majority of his army dies.. if he just ignore the banelings, i straight go to his mineral line. 3-4 of them at the line,& i can bag at least 6 drone kills.. my opponent usually being overconfident with spine crawlers & queens to kill my banelings, but actually it hasten the death of their drones... & oh yeah,queens make an excellent bait for those rush-in lings to aim 1st...so make lots of them  |
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Apr 29 2011, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 29 2011, 03:49 AM) one who dont micro their lings in early ZvZ games are not worthy opponents. its like the most important component of the matchup. ok.this is me sometimes,unfortunately...   |
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May 16 2011, 09:16 PM
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i once fought against a top 100 grandmaster terran.
he did exactly the marine+tank composition. he actually spread the marines far apart.only 7-8 of them clumped with a tank. tank-hopping towards my expo & building misile turrets along the way.place them far apart,& walla.an unbreakable attack line from any zerg focused attack,where whatever you do will obviously resulted in premature gg. i still got no counter to this for a low-level player like me.broodlords maybe viable,but 3-4 vikings (or stimmed marines) are sufficient enough to kill them outright. |
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Jun 10 2011, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Jun 10 2011, 08:41 AM) Absolutely, we need more zerg player here in LYN or maybe Zerg player is too quiet here. Make some noise, swarm i'm zerg myself...  |
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Jun 21 2011, 09:25 PM
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how to stop 4-6,7 rax opening with marines+marauders 8,9 minutes into the game?
i can scout them proper,but constant stream of those bios plus banelings r darn expensive to make,esp. me just getting started to saturate my expo. i kept losing to this sort of aggression.my win-lose rate against this sort of push already at 1-16.since then,i kept getting matched up with bronze players in ladder (thus showing my absurd incompetence in 1v1) |
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Jun 21 2011, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 21 2011, 09:28 PM) you need: oh, thank you for the wisdom you bestowed upon me!BANELINGS BANELINGS BANELINGS OHHHHH~  |
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Jun 22 2011, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 21 2011, 11:11 PM) what u need is STOP droning. thnx 4 the answer quest...but the last map i kena dis 6 rax mass bio was on delta quadrant.close spawn,so...u can figure that out...u dun need that much drone to have constant speedling production from 2 base. normally i will have 16 drones b4 starting any ling production. thats a good number to have constant injection of speedling plus some banelings. but since u say its a 8-9 minutes into the game, which is like fking late for a timing push, u can get up to 22~ dornes wif 2 queens for constant 2 base speedling wif healthy amount of banelings off 1-2 gas. banelings can only help you destroy the ball of marine which is the 1st push and maybe following. the best way to stop constant stream of marine is still roaches. roaches swallow marine in small numbers. just like stalkers (insert PvT QQ) or just mass speedling to surround the reinforcement. its good to have a small army cutting reinforcement if your opponent is just rallying their rax into ur base. cuz its a M move command, they wont hit you (thats even common in lower leagues, in higher leagues they will A move all their reinforcements or just move out bunch by bunch) and really, 8-9 minute should be easy to stop as it is like 2 minutes into ur comfort zone, if u execute a good build order, u can even baneling bust him b4 he moves out. & mostly the terran will put marauders in front.if i just 1A,surely banelings will hit those marauders,wasting the splash dmg..& the 1st wave would be like 12 marines 4 marauders with stim done...forced me to rage quit,since i cant even prep a decent army of banelings |
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Jun 25 2011, 01:14 AM
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that's it...i even lose to a lowly bronze newbie!
my recent losses while using zerg shows the inability to attack & defend..lemme curl meself at the corner of a dark room & cry till i'm sober again.. |
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Jun 27 2011, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jun 27 2011, 12:06 AM) it takes 21 baneling to kill a 3 armor 3 shield archon. 19 banelings? does it include the PF actually manage to kill some of them?only 19 to kill 1 planetary fortress. and minus 1 baneling for each attack upgrade.... |
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Jul 14 2011, 08:25 AM
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u can just bait him to waste sentries.may take quite a while though..
& do harass or atk at multiple points.if u cant atk mineral lines,atk production buildings.some critical pylons would be very devastating if destroyed.. |
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Aug 15 2011, 03:40 AM
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guys.what will happen if i somehow neural parasite a medivac with cargo inside it?
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Oct 4 2011, 11:48 PM
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woah woah..chill
dis is zerg thread...  |
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Oct 6 2011, 10:00 AM
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imagine zerglings can stutter step & can melee air units..
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Oct 6 2011, 12:02 PM
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no no
fungal + lurker + defiler much more OP  |
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Oct 6 2011, 08:02 PM
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if that happens,mass ghost play will pop up
imagine,ghost can emp all AOE,uncloak all,snipe as well.. cheap on gas.expensive on minerals? mules took care of that.. cloak...had to use high graphics then can see the cloak shape. with the EMP range farther than NP (10 vs 7) & Snipe range almost similar to Siege Tank range (11 with vision,think O.command scan) another OP unit arrives... |
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Oct 11 2011, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(A-Note @ Oct 11 2011, 03:12 AM) and on what circumstances you guys will use hydralisk =/ i find myself not using that very often lol i mean they are okay but =/ protoss death ball just fries them up like nothing hydra+nydus at strategic position,particularly near their nexus...by the time i spread out my hydra they got fried by other units lolo around 5 sec + 12 lvl 2 hydras with range upgrade kills a nexus ez |
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Oct 11 2011, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Oct 11 2011, 10:50 AM) lulwut, siege mode = spread "semen" all over the place? i think i see roach with missile pod,can shoot air too.won't that be wayyyyy imba? Hey btw guys, what BO are good for a starter to play zerg? btw,ez BO for zerg starters? if ZvZ (my personal lings +1 mass 'em up) extractor trick to 11 drones + 1 extractor 11 overlord 12 evo chamber 12 pool research melee +1 when gas collected at 140 pull drones off gas when gas at 100,start speedlings research 16 queen + 1 spine at mineral line 18 overlord 2 pairs of lings after overlord hatches + 1 drone inject larva after queen pops out instantly 20/21 2 more overlord drones until 24 1 pair of lings MUST deny any scout lings.another pair control watch tower + scout (probably when enemy at x-position). should be easy since speed is done by then.. 1.if scouted roach warren/fast lair/FE,mass em lings.should be enough to overwhelm them 2.if scouted banelings/bane nest,either bait suicide...or separate attacks here n there in teams of 4-6 lings.target priority would be queens & drones collecting gas 3.if scouted nice town planning by the enemy i.e. strategic spines...... go for triple expand & saturate main.dont go mutas,as the enemy would kinda expecting that. btw,it works moderately on lower leagues.dunno about the top tier lvl |
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Oct 11 2011, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Oct 11 2011, 11:44 AM) Looks interesting, will try to work out the BO first, i'm protoss player previously and only focused on protoss, never touched other race before except i forgot to switch my race during custom games. well,it depends on ur luck (guessing opponent spawn location...won't be hard at all if on xelnaga) & first 2 overlord placement..very very damn important to know if he expo or outright agro.... |
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Oct 12 2011, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(A-Note @ Oct 12 2011, 07:00 PM)  didn't scout and expand enough lololo im still a noob Added on October 12, 2011, 7:02 pmwill ultralisk be good vs colossus? |
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Oct 12 2011, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(A-Note @ Oct 12 2011, 07:06 PM) i always have this bad habit of not upgrading things in my evo chamber well,r u top level player? if yes,it's unforgivable |
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