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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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debiru-man13
post Nov 11 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 11 2011, 04:59 PM)
army graph...
his opponent lost like 100 food supply within 1min from suiciding lings/ blings/ mutas into his base lolx
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Ohhh, ic. Thank you for the clarification evo. smile.gif

Yeah, blings do that. If miss marines, then die de. That's why now I seldom use blings vs terran. Only when I hav to use mutas.

If not I Stephano all the way. ^^ ling/festor and double upgrade. me gusta
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post Nov 11 2011, 08:50 PM

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i lost alot scv few depot and 2 ebay i also suffer dmg k
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post Nov 11 2011, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Nov 11 2011, 08:50 PM)
i lost alot scv few depot and 2 ebay i also suffer dmg k
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ayam, i understand, i understand.
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post Nov 12 2011, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Nov 11 2011, 08:50 PM)
i lost alot scv few depot and 2 ebay i also suffer dmg k
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Not even close! His graph mega water fall. You got mules!
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post Nov 12 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 12 2011, 12:01 AM)
Not even close! His graph mega water fall. You got mules!
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3 OC wont make much different
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post Nov 12 2011, 03:06 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQedw7R1zk

watch this..
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post Nov 12 2011, 03:05 PM

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any sifu can train me? sad.gif im stuck at bronze league cry.gif
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post Nov 12 2011, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(A-Note @ Nov 12 2011, 03:05 PM)
any sifu can train me? sad.gif im stuck at bronze league cry.gif
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early game scout at 8 supply. see if got any noobs being slow or dunno how to wall up. at bronze league sure got a lot de, if u found one then quickly up spawning pool and ling rush him. free win


btw zerg relies heavily on muta...i see 80% zerg in 1v1 play muta d...its almost expected. so try to work on that...


Added on November 12, 2011, 8:50 pmalso dun forgot to put one overlord to guard ur ramp. you can use overlord to scout opponent too.

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post Nov 13 2011, 12:43 AM

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Lately I see more muta/ling/bling in ZvZ. I always go RH/Infestor then kene sapu with banelings... T_T

maybe I just go roach/infestor?
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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:43 AM)
Lately I see more muta/ling/bling in ZvZ. I always go RH/Infestor then kene sapu with banelings... T_T

maybe I just go roach/infestor?
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Most of the replays I watch I see when ZvZ, the best build which I feel to go for is Roach+Hydra+Infestor hmm.gif (Correct me if I'm wrong).. Roaches more often than not can clear off lings and their damage is also very good.. Hydralisk need to plant a lot of creep tumors so that they can move around the map quickly.. Key winning (at least from what I've watched is micro and upgrades combo-ed with Fungal Growth and containing your opponent so they don't take any expo is also very important.. Change your unit composition to counter that which your opponent is going for..
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post Nov 13 2011, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(yuvster @ Nov 13 2011, 01:37 AM)
Most of the replays I watch I see when ZvZ, the best build which I feel to go for is Roach+Hydra+Infestor  hmm.gif (Correct me if I'm wrong).. Roaches more often than not can clear off lings and their damage is also very good.. Hydralisk need to plant a lot of creep tumors so that they can move around the map quickly.. Key winning (at least from what I've watched is micro and upgrades combo-ed with Fungal Growth and containing your opponent so they don't take any expo is also very important.. Change your unit composition to counter that which your opponent is going for..
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But what if they go bling/ling/muta? Now I know how terran feels. lol.

But seriously, blings soften up roaches, and counter hydra, and ling finish everything. I feel I should just go muta as well, maybe with infestor support or corruptors or something.
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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Nov 13 2011, 02:01 AM)
But what if they go bling/ling/muta? Now I know how terran feels. lol.

But seriously, blings soften up roaches, and counter hydra, and ling finish everything. I feel I should just go muta as well, maybe with infestor support or corruptors or something.
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they will die to roach timing attacks lol...
basically ZvZ is now a roach vs roach...
it is the safest bet vs ling/ bling allins...
infestors when u get mid game...
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:58 AM

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Yeah, it's just not cost effective to try to pump out significantly enough banelings to hit the roaches to death and you'll need like 3 or 4 banelings to kill one roach.. The number of hydras will always be lower than the roaches (costs high) but even then if you let your opponent go out and get a big enough muta ball to kill your 15-20 hydralisks, then you've done something wrong somewhere.. Roach timing push also can be very effective against ling heavy players..

Scout, scout, scout..
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post Nov 13 2011, 08:57 AM

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if you see them go spire, just roach all in him.

however if he is nestea, his muta will reach just in time to clear ur all in lol..make sure to do it fast the timing is very small.
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 12 2011, 08:49 PM)
early game scout at 8 supply. see if got any noobs being slow or dunno how to wall up. at bronze league sure got a lot de, if u found one then quickly up spawning pool and ling rush him. free win
btw zerg relies heavily on muta...i see 80% zerg in 1v1 play muta d...its almost expected. so try to work on that...


Added on November 12, 2011, 8:50 pmalso dun forgot to put one overlord to guard ur ramp. you can use overlord to scout opponent too.
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during a rush what should i be aiming? O.o his workers straight?
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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Nov 13 2011, 03:01 AM)
But what if they go bling/ling/muta? Now I know how terran feels. lol.

But seriously, blings soften up roaches, and counter hydra, and ling finish everything. I feel I should just go muta as well, maybe with infestor support or corruptors or something.
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bro. thk u for contributing in this thread forum. lol
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post Nov 13 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 13 2011, 02:38 PM)
bro. thk u for contributing in this thread forum. lol
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Added on November 13, 2011, 3:35 pm
QUOTE(yuvster @ Nov 13 2011, 05:58 AM)
Yeah, it's just not cost effective to try to pump out significantly enough banelings to hit the roaches to death and you'll need like 3 or 4 banelings to kill one roach.. The number of hydras will always be lower than the roaches (costs high) but even then if you let your opponent go out and get a big enough muta ball to kill your 15-20 hydralisks, then you've done something wrong somewhere.. Roach timing push also can be very effective against ling heavy players..

Scout, scout, scout..
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ya, maybe I was too passive, then his eco was better, so even with only banelings he managed to kill everything... -__-

need to harass more.

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6 pool to GM.
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QUOTE(debiru-man13 @ Nov 13 2011, 04:33 PM)
I wanna be GM yo! lol


Added on November 13, 2011, 3:35 pm

ya, maybe I was too passive, then his eco was better, so even with only banelings he managed to kill everything... -__-

need to harass more.
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no probs. juz need to scout for terran hidden proxy 5 rax rush yo and u'll be good... doh.gif
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I think harassing and whatnot always very dependent on the build your opponent is going for as well as getting the counter, as well as the map you're playing in..

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