marine rush is damn gay lolx

i think going 10 pool in ZvZ is the safest...
get 1 spine crawler as well and position ur buildings well so ur queen is protected and can heal the spine if needed...
from there i'll get speed and roaches...

thanks evo gonna give it a try later. I guess in higher up rankings in diamonds/plat there are less player playing cheese?

yeah much lesser, but u will never noe
alwiz scout n good decision making helps uu to be cheeseproof=D

I always 10 pool when zvz unless it's a huge map

Somehow I have not been getting ZvZ matches as random. Kept getting either Terran or Protoss when I get Zerg. Getting kinda hooked to the 7 roach rush. Evo was right... It is very addictive.

Can't wait to get a ZvZ. Need to learn up that as well.

Just got zerg matchup yesterday

But thats gold league anyways
Funny how spines just demolish any attempt on banebust

This post has been edited by bobohead1988: Nov 12 2010, 03:56 PM

^ this
when u get to roaches, the banes are pretty dead...
i prefer to go roach + banes though as speedlings are good vs roaches as the battle gets bigger

Mmm. So do you rush to roaches first then get the banes or get the lings, convert to banes and then get roaches?

Haha sorry. I'm still quite new to Zerg.
The only strat I know so far is still rushing to roaches, 6 pool, mutaling.
I still suck at using banes, infestors and ultralisk.

depends on his compo i guess...
in general i just respond to my opponents...
roaches -> speedlings for reinforcing...
i'll get banes when i see he have tonnes of lings...

Oh thanks.
I'll try it out and see when I do get a zerg opponent.
But then I foresee I'll probably get run over by lings before I get those banes ready.

the fastest ZvZ build is ling + banes and keep attacking...
micro ur banes well and its a win especially if he teched...

Usually if they go banes most likely they will forgo speedling upgrade.

Manage to micro past their banes and proceed to wreck havoc on mineral lines while i expand with spines

This post has been edited by bobohead1988: Nov 12 2010, 06:22 PM

man..why are lurkers removed now? I like them very much.. I remember my cousin used lurkers in 1 v 10 terrans (melee) match.. He won the match.

I just got F up by baneling war lol, my drones are all gone in the first wave, was left so behind and eventually overpowered

ZvZ is boring..

FE in ZvZ is damn risky..

yeah especially in ZvZ FE is very scary. A tonne of speedlings can easily go to your FE and wipe it out, outrun the roaches

Which do u guys think is more efficient in ZvZ 1 base play?

lings + roaches or lings + banes?

Personally, I wouldn't set a single mindset in terms of strategy. Be flexible and learn to counter the enemy. Why I say this is because recently after the patch, a lot of Z players tend to roach rush (me included depending on the situation) and then we set ourselves to a single strat. In the end kena counter and dieded. So I decided to try it against another Z player and he did the same thing, sent 10 lings then went for roaches, had about 9 roaches but I had a bunch of zerglings and 6 spine crawlers and jumped straight to muta because he was so focused on roaches. In the end the mutas just wiped out his base (of course I hid my spire )

I played with a person who FE+roaches+ 2 spine crawlers.

I just push with 1 base + lings + banelings. Usually they will put their roaches at the ramp. So, i'll create lots of banelings and explode most of the banes to the roaches. And hundreds of my lings will flood inside his base.