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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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post Oct 5 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Oct 5 2010, 10:05 AM)
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post Oct 5 2010, 03:38 PM

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challenge people like me won't learn wan. tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 5 2010, 12:41 AM)
ultras cant hit phoenixes sad.gif
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phoenixes cant hit ultras, peace.
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post Oct 5 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Oct 5 2010, 05:30 PM)
phoenixes cant hit ultras, peace.
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They can rape muta/lings lol
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post Oct 6 2010, 01:33 AM

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how do i deal with early mass banshees? damn them T.T! always get attacked back after my roach rush

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post Oct 6 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(IisTHEmoron @ Oct 6 2010, 01:33 AM)
how do i deal with early mass banshees? damn them T.T! always get attacked back after my roach rush
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quick tech to lair for overseer. And get some queens. ( 3 per base ? thats what i usually do )
Or just some well placed spore crawlers. Important is to know when his banshees are coming ~
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post Oct 6 2010, 02:00 AM

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terran players like to wall in with Siege tanks... i cant scout anything... so i try roach rush but realize there're banshees... but it'll be too late..
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post Oct 6 2010, 04:33 AM

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Pretty predictable things if they wall in

Poke up the ramp with lings
Very little marines/tanks during midgame?
They be teching to air thats for sure
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post Oct 6 2010, 08:25 AM

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very tired now = =...
yesterday lost a game keep thinking of it cant sleep whole night... zzz
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post Oct 6 2010, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(IisTHEmoron @ Oct 6 2010, 02:00 AM)
terran players like to wall in with Siege tanks... i cant scout anything... so i try roach rush but realize there're banshees... but it'll be too late..
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Roach rush a terran? he's probably waiting to counter ur attack after the roaches been shred to pieces. Roaches just doesnt quite cut it for me
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i've lost to zerg hydra / roach spam. sad.gif i donno why that game i suddenly so conservative have 2 barracks only. LOL.

anyway for zerg, i find mutalisk + speedling combo being very good. throw along some roaches would be good too.

QUOTE(IisTHEmoron @ Oct 6 2010, 02:00 AM)
terran players like to wall in with Siege tanks... i cant scout anything... so i try roach rush but realize there're banshees... but it'll be too late..
i like it when Terran's wall up. biggrin.gif even better if they wall up without siege tanks (yes, some of them just spam MM).

during such scenario, my thought of a good move would be to expand quickly and focus on getting more gas. 2 hatcheries with 4 gas and 3 drones assigned to each is good.

by that time should have 25 - 35 drones on mineral patches already. with queen continue to spawn larvae, keep spamming mutalisks and left over M for speedlings.


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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 6 2010, 08:25 AM)
very tired now = =...
yesterday lost a game keep thinking of it cant sleep whole night... zzz
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 6 2010, 10:46 AM)
i've lost to zerg hydra / roach spam. sad.gif i donno why that game i suddenly so conservative have 2 barracks only. LOL.

anyway for zerg, i find mutalisk + speedling combo being very good. throw along some roaches would be good too.
i like it when Terran's wall up. biggrin.gif even better if they wall up without siege tanks (yes, some of them just spam MM).

during such scenario, my thought of a good move would be to expand quickly and focus on getting more gas. 2 hatcheries with 4 gas and 3 drones assigned to each is good.

by that time should have 25 - 35 drones on mineral patches already. with queen continue to spawn larvae, keep spamming mutalisks and left over M for speedlings.


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Terran always wall up, it doesnt mean they wont attack you early on, their SD makes a perfect door, so they can in and out easy without destroying em, preventing early rush(zealot/ling), prevent easy scouting and they dont cost any extra to wall up. So I would say wall up have no disadvantages for Terran. After they wall up, they can spam units like crazy without you knowing it, and if you expand without defense since you feel safe cause they wall up, that might be a GG once they comes out.
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:45 AM

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I got outplayed... by someone which I have perfect chance of winning..

He went banshee at first by walling off, my OL did scouted and prepared for it, it was like 8 minute mark and I have yet to get my 100th gas for lair upgrade, out of no choice I have no spam queen, was expecting only 2 ~ 3 banshee but there's like 6 coming at once, I lost like 4 ~ 5 queens due to my poor micros and mistake. my Lair was left in red HP out of panic I made spore colony all over my base, I thought I am really damn behind the game and keep doing everything I can do stay ahead of the competition..

All my units composition just went wrong, roaches, but too little, lings but he went marine + drop shit which pawn them like hell.. Mutalisk but he went Thor, Magic box is very bad idea when there's marine backup.

What I failed to realised that actually I am not really behind all the game, he gave me so many room to expand which I didn't grab the opportunity. Instead I keep spamming unit just hope to overwhelm him, he did not expand until very long time which I thought he already have when he have rush me almost to death initially..

What I could made differently, some zergling --> baneling --> his Marine would be useless cause it's not really a lot of marine and thor he can make since he made his expansion late.

INFESTOR -- OMG i always forgot this important unit which would totally turn the game upside down..

Expand.. My macro failed miserably, I really cannot keep up with the micro up to the extend I have 2k+ mineral out of 2 base I have to make 4 hatchery out of 2 base expo..

I made many upgrades which I never used, such as overload with speed and drops. I made so many queens but my sreep spread less than half of metropolitan.

I got so emo of my self I just rage quit without a GG.. Really need to improve my coolness and game steadiness when I play, I have so much theory in my head but just cant apply them in game(everything become a mess).


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post Oct 6 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 6 2010, 09:25 AM)
very tired now = =...
yesterday lost a game keep thinking of it cant sleep whole night... zzz
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i think u have the same desease i have..ur eye is closed but kenot sleep coz brain non stop thinking of lost,strat and alot of stuff and u cant stop rolling around in ur bed..only will finaly fall asleep when the clock is at 5am..am i rite?
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post Oct 6 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(mollymurder @ Oct 6 2010, 11:48 AM)
i think u have the same desease i have..ur eye is closed but kenot sleep coz brain non stop thinking of lost,strat and alot of stuff and u cant stop rolling around in ur bed..only will finaly fall asleep when the clock is at 5am..am i rite?
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I hate you =(
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post Oct 6 2010, 12:13 PM

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are zerg really that hard to play compare to terran or protoss ?

lose almost all games yesterday almsot give up zerg want to try other race.

sigh.,.

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post Oct 6 2010, 12:26 PM

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Zerg is considered the hardest race for new SC players. I suggest you try Protoss/Terran.
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post Oct 6 2010, 01:22 PM

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depends on whcih league you're in, i guess.

for bronze league, i always use below:

protoss - zegling + roach
terran - zergling + baneling

rush of course^^

eventually mass muta, then keeps distrub their mineral lines..

i'm noob but still can win some games & promoted to silver biggrin.gif
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It's not hard to play zerg but it's hard to play it good.. actually same thing la for any race smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ahlok @ Oct 6 2010, 01:22 PM)
depends on whcih league you're in, i guess.

for bronze league, i always use below:

protoss - zegling + roach
terran - zergling + baneling

rush of course^^

eventually mass muta, then keeps distrub their mineral lines..

i'm noob but still can win some games & promoted to silver biggrin.gif
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