protoss player here... i think the best way to win a match against the platinum player is to scout on what they do.... u need to know how to counter their attack... especially terran... i find it difficult to win a battle against terran... with the siege tank and marauders... zealots cannot win against marauders if they play run and attack strategy... unless you already upgrade the zealots speed thingie...

for zerg.... yeah.. mass zealots and stalker.... u need to come out with a zealot before the first rush begin... and at least 2 gateway and dont forget about building pylons.... use ur probe to attack the zerglings for the first rush if u dont have zealot at that time... usually the zerglings will come in 3... but quickly build more zealots after that... if the zerg player did not rush attack... u know what to do... hahaha...

the ai is very easy laa i think.... i can beat very hard ai in 1vs1 easily... did not try insane yet... u need to create as many units as you can... and try to arrange ur unit front and back on the first wave of the attack... so that u can defend efficiently... after the first wave... straightaway attack their base.. dont put to much effort on defense building.... because u will not have units to counter their attack... for 2by2 or 3by3.... or even 4by4.... u need a very good partner... the first wave is very important... dont let the ai base freely build anything... they will expand... and it's fast... u will overrun in 20 to 30 minutes... start attacking their economy... i explain this as a protoss player... for terran... it might be different.. because protoss does not have good defense strategies against the ai.... most of the time, if u did not counter their attack, u will overrun... haha...

and i find that stalker is actually a very useful units as it can attack air units....

no i'm not a pro gamer... i usually failed to win against terran player...

yeah in this case, u need to finish him off quickly hahaha, i chose zealot rush him, but scout him first...

stalker is also good against those muta's..... but u need many stalkers laa.... plus u need to arrange the stalkers attack one by one... upgrade ur forge.... plus for stalker, u only need to warp it while pheonix, u need to create it, and it takes time.... usually my game with zerg 1vs1 will end in 15 to 30 minutes... i dont have problem with muta's, hahaha.... hope this help..

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Added on August 9, 2010, 3:14 pm

while stalkers look really great on paper, they are not that strong against the heavy hitters...

against terran, go for 4 gate chargelots/HT or the blinkstalkers...
if u are getting zealots without charge, u are doing it wrong...
the charge to me is the single best upgrade!

very hard AI is kinda ez even if u let them do wut they want...
the key is to micro manage ur army...
while their army is huge, u can beat em easily wit some micro...

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Added on August 9, 2010, 3:16 pmps:
TS, i think its best to remove about the counters part...
as day9 put it, there is no such thing as counters and if u are forcing a counter, u wont have the numbers to be effective...
the general weakness/ more damage is more than enuff to be ur general rule of thumb...

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yeah, i think that's why i cannot beat those terran, thanks anyway... i try those chargelots/HT....

haha, counter is good i think... play with very hard and i usually can win with counter.... but it ends quickly laa... lol... for the number part, that's why i told before that u need many units, not the defense building... create units after the first wave, go attack their probe/scv/drones.. continually supply troops using warp.....

yeah u can win.... but usually to defense against very hard ai, really need a lot of effort... maybe my strategies a bit different than u.... ah.. i need to learn fast... so many things that i dont know....

i guess that depends on the player right... the best way to win is to scout first... yeah as i said before, that one is for battle against ai... when u play with real players, it depends on many things...

but first u need to chose whether you want to finish the game in 15 to 30 minutes or more than that....

can someone share with me what strategy you used when battling with terran...??? i find it difficult to win against terran.... always loss with the m&m.... terran are too unpredictable... reapers, banshee, m&m, siege tank, miedivacs... which one should i focus for??

This post has been edited by zariel: Aug 17 2010, 11:19 PM

thanks for the reply...

i think i need to practice using sentries.... i loss all game with terran because of the m&m... lol plat guys know already the DT trick.... they put detector (i mean the patriot missile...) all over their base - its cheap.. and i can even go into their base using observer.... and one attack using m&m, im screwed....

harras their blockade using stalkers early on.... i think this one i can try...

This post has been edited by zariel: Aug 18 2010, 01:02 AM

gotta learn it fast.... this m&m really annoying....

can turret attack our collosus???

i always used stallker at max..... maybe thats the problem.... thanks evofantasy...

dont have problem with bc actually... cause usually, i upgrade my forge and play stallker to the max.... lol....

maybe he usually play fps and camping all the time... lol...

i still cant beat those m&m.... 2 colossus or 3 colossus are enough?? i want to finish him off quickly.... i loss all last 8 battle against terran including custom match... against gold player some more.... pity to me.... luckily there are many protoss and zerg player compare to terran...


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lol i think i just practicing with the ai m&m.... thanks anyway....

This post has been edited by zariel: Aug 18 2010, 07:10 PM

i dont think its a bit slow for 9 probes for pylon... plus u get more minerals while only sacrifying 2-3 seconds....

i just find out that u need at least 28 probe for one base... is that correct?? or more??

losing streak?? by cheese?? need to scout first... i think that build order is for game with terran.... cause i just learn that build order today.... and....

lol.... i got my first win against terran diamond player summore ... lol with colossus.... colossus ftw!!! he want to spam me with bc and nuke.... and my stalker whacked his bc while my colossus killed his ghost... hahahahahahahahaha ... thanks to the vid in the first page ....

This post has been edited by zariel: Aug 19 2010, 01:07 AM

i think tech up to colossi is the way to win against m&m player... but make sure they are using m&m plan by scouting them usually 2-3 barracks with gathering gases early in the game... sometimes they like to cheese using reapers or marine+meadivacs... and i think terran player like to kill our probe before we can have a healthy economy....