btw, i m a protoss player and hv difficulty in facing zerg Roach rush and camp in front of my base to limit my expo....their tactics mostly are roach rush/hydralisk then mutalisk to harass...in which my stalker and Colloseaus will be much more useless to stop them..any comment on this?

i used to put 5 gates...but with combination of units zeal/stalker/collo... is that better just use stalker with collo? cause i notice that my zeal always die before rushing into their mass hydralisk and roach =.=

thx for all of ur comments...i will try this tonight..

I have difficulties to face it too...mass marauders are hurting my stalker badly especially with the slow effect...

I found that my zealots are food for Marauders unless i got the haste upgrade...

btw, my stalkers+sentries+collo always died to mass M/M and 2 tanks behind...

Anyway way to counter Thor other than Immortal?

My 24 stalkers lost to 5 Thor with 5 scvs behind repairing it =.=

lol...i just lost a game yesterday when i have 10 stalkers + 4 sentries + 20 zealots lose to mass mm +3 thors + 2 medivacs + 2 raven...

I have chargelots and also lvl2 weapn upgrade =.=

maybe coz cant micro too much due to lag screen...

Time's to change a new comp...zzzz

hmmm..his units are almost same with me..which is about 70 to 68 for me (supply units count)

yea..i watched every replay i lost..

learn from mistakes..but i never stop mistakes lol

is that immortal good to counter ultralisk? i am facing problem with fast expand zerg with zergling and stout def then go for ultralisk hydralisk troops..=/

i used the same strategy to counter the MMM...and also i will either train 1 warp prism to curi expand or build HT to sneak inside their base to slow down their economy once their army is out from base.

Usually when u have 1 or two HT sneak inside their base.they usually get low on energy to scan..

It depend much on your build order too..I usually come out with 1 observer to scout them early so I can modify my strategy to counter them...

If they are fast tech to tank, I will choose to expand to speed up my economy; or early MM rush, I will have 3-4 sentries to block the ramp till my charge finish tech up.

But if they have 2-3 tanks under your ramp...then U have to do a good timing push when the tank wanna move...depend much on your timing to initiate attack.

These is what my experience tell me...may varied with others cause I am still a noob

If only marines without Marauders, then fast stalker is a good option to counter it

my build for PVT always fast stalker to prevent reaper rush or marine rush

always have few sentries beside stalkers.and def at the ramp...
you need to tech up chargelot and build immortal if later he come out with tanks

From my case, it depend much on map and the location of your enemy...once they push to my base with MM, I usually have 2 sentries 5 stalker and 2 zealots...

or if just Marines only..I will have at least 2 stalker with 1 sentry

and by the time he attacking..my warpgate should done and my 3rd gateway nearly done...

My build order against terran

9pylon
12/13 Gateway
14 Assimilator
15pylon
16 Cyber.core + Assimilator
20 Stalker
22 sentries
then start modified depend on situation...

post the one you lose..cause you will learn more from losing not from winning...=)

same to me..no charge no zealots,
normally I used 1 sentry 2 stalker def in the base while I speed build obs to scout their base

hmm, PVP i believe it comes to micro when fighting, stalkers+sentries combo can own stalkers+ zealot combo since u can use sentry to separate their zealot and stalker and own them 1 by 1..

micro rules..

and yeah, for PVZ, zealot is a must to tank those zerglings..=/

This post has been edited by raylee914: Aug 26 2010, 09:40 AM

fast scout and adapt your units to counter them..

pure MMM I will use stalker+collosious+zealot
MMM+ tank/thor = stalker+zealot+immortal
MMM+tank+vikings =they must be turtling too much = have to expand faster than them d =/

yeah, i met one terran in ladder who turtle too much in with 1 more expansion..then after 30 minutes come out with 6 BC 12 vikings 6 tanks + MMM...

I used 12 carries + 6 Collosious+stalker+zealot...

I cleared all his ground units but he left BC and I lost all =/ then gg d