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post Aug 22 2010, 06:23 PM

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Is colossus the best unit in the game? How to counter? I feel that once colossus come out got 3 or4 then all ground unit will be burnt to death liao
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post Aug 22 2010, 06:28 PM

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usually ppl will have air support with colossus la unless noob and if use zerg and din go for air unit sure die against colossus liao.. once protoss out that unit lose liao la.. dunno how to play
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post Aug 22 2010, 09:39 PM

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warpgate is a cheat rite? Cuz it makes protoss unit come out so fast like zerg unit.. so is powerful unit that comes out fast.. wtf? no wonder everyone use protoss cuz is most powerful
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post Aug 23 2010, 01:54 PM

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hi, i wanna ask is stalker or phoenix better against air? I compare and see stalker damage more than phoenix and shoot faster. stalker oso cheaper. So shud i use stalker instead of pheonix? Cuz i only go for ground unit and uprgade ground stuff only. WIll be watse to upgrade just because i use phoenix.
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post Aug 23 2010, 04:57 PM

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wat does zealot charge do? other than make them move faster it say intercept enermies mean wat?
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post Aug 23 2010, 05:07 PM

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what is MMM? So the charge skill is only make them engage enemy faster? I tot got extra damage or attack
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post Aug 23 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 23 2010, 05:15 PM)
is there a post from you that's not filled with "?" smile.gif
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not in starcraft. Im still noob and learning how to play. Hope i dont get ban for this smile.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 10:11 PM

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simply build your unit until your resources 0.. just continue train unit tongue.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ Aug 23 2010, 10:29 PM)
W is the hotkey for warpgate.
Make sure you match your production building with your economy. If you're on 2 saturated base, 4 warpgates and a robotics is not enough.
During mid game, make sure not to get supply blocked. This is how i do it, my own mental checklist during the game:

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If you're producing units constantly from 3 warpgates, you need to add pylon after a cycle.

3 warpgates = 6 supply per cycle
Since build time for 2 probes = 1 warpgate unit build time, thats 2 supply per cycle.

So, when you select "W" then press S Z E -> select 4(my nexus hot key) the press  "E" "E" -> put a pylon. Then repeat.

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If your producing from 6 warpgates and 2 robo, let say you're making colly for PvZ:

(2 colly x 6) + (6 wapgates x 2) + 2 probes = 26 suply or 3/4 pylons per cycle.

6(my hotkeys for robo) "C" "C" -> "W" S S S S S S -> 4 "E" "E" -> straight put 3 or 4 pylons. This is the rough estimation of the build time , so always look at your supply count.
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this is liek starcraft theory class
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post Aug 24 2010, 05:59 PM

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I just pawned computer insane with canon rush. I guess protoss is meant for me wink.gif
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post Aug 24 2010, 06:04 PM

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But insane AI is the best already. Against normal player they wont know what to do hohoho
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post Aug 24 2010, 06:22 PM

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lol.. if no cannon rush then will die against computer insane.

btw, when playing 1v1 is it normal for protoss player to canon rush? seem like everyone is doing that
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post Aug 24 2010, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Aug 24 2010, 06:35 PM)
Once in awhile. More likely to see 4gate pushes or VR rushing.
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What is VR rush?

QUOTE(xShinji @ Aug 24 2010, 06:44 PM)
Any1 know the counter for early zealot rush?

8 pylon
10 gate
12 gate
13 zealot
15 pylon

.....some even do earlier gate.....been trying all sort of thing...but fail
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WHat u mean? They fail or u fail? The build order is for u or their rush tactic?
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post Aug 24 2010, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(noob4life @ Aug 24 2010, 08:00 PM)
got cannon rushed 3 times so far in bronze league... which is quite alot considering the number of protoss i fought... all 3 of it failed though lol. I think its really hard to pull off. Either that or my opponents suck. I just 2-gate + chrono and the rush doesnt work anymore.
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How u 2 gate chrono? The canon already in your base b4 your zealot out. Still can counter?

QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ Aug 24 2010, 08:00 PM)
Usually when i play PvP on ladder, i place my first pylon like this:

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When i scouted 2 gate build, i look for 2 things. How much probe he has, did he stop probe production? Look out for the blue lights above nexus. Next i'll look if he chrono boosted his gateway or not. If 1 of those 2 thing happens, i will save my chrono boost and put my 2nd gateway on the blue box to completely seal off my entrance. Then go for blink stalkers. If he decides to attack, laugh at him after his 5/7 zealots die to 2/3 stalkers. If he decides not to attack, you're still ahead since he either stop probe production or didnt chrono boost his nexus.

You can seal off your entrance this way on every ladder map except scrap station and 5 o'clock starting position on delta quadrant. I've tested it on YABOT.
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U seal off the whole entrance wif pylon? Then u will need a lot pylon on same area and your ground unit can move through. Wat is YABOT?
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post Aug 24 2010, 08:32 PM

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if cannon rush fail then will be gg for the player liao.. cuz he wont be fast enuff to get his units up unless u give chance and wait for him build up. right right?
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post Aug 24 2010, 10:45 PM

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where beng? can stararcraft support chinese languiage?
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post Aug 25 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(noob4life @ Aug 25 2010, 08:32 AM)
Eh ? Actually i already had 1 zealot and 2 gates when the cannons came. ( i didnt get that cybernetics core, was zealoting ) Like I said maybe my opponent sucks... i left about half of my mineral line untouched to prevent his cannons from raping my probes. ( his cannons were at one side ) Theres still a bit of income there... so just chrono zealots when u have the chance... and like wat everyone said, surround and rape his probe. make sure no other probes enter ur base while ure doing it. U have to sacrifice those probes though. But once u counter it... its gg for him lol.

I actually didnt realize his probe was hiding at the edge of my base until he warped in his 3rd cannon. ( 1st and second warped under fog of war zzzzz )
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oh means he make the 1st canon in the fog of war. that time u shud b just about to finish your warp gate. if he make first canon n your base then will already finish b4 your gate
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post Aug 25 2010, 03:30 PM

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Hi

my BO is

probe
probe
probe
pylon
probe
gateway

then got 2 assimilator with 2 probe on each and around 9 or 10 on minerals.

Is it good?
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post Aug 25 2010, 03:59 PM

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k will upload replay when i win ppl. Now always lose tongue.gif

I thought of not spending so much on gas since im not fast enuff to use all of them so only 2 on each will be enuff.
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:21 PM

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Hi guys,

when do u start getting the 2nd base? And do you get the one withthe gold mineral or normal? If gold need whack the rock with many hp sad.gif

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