its a risky move...
kiwikaki did it 2 times against idra and idra broke those off...
the problems with cannons is that they are static...
idra answer this by having his 2nd hatch is another expo in game 2...
in game 3, he just micro his drones to trap the probe when the probe tried to cannon behind the mineral...

btw pylon behind mineral and cannon for smaller zerg vs lings...

my play wasnt exactly planting it behind minerals, i was planning more than just tht...
i plant it exactly in front of the entrance of their new 2nd base ..
tht way, i can ruined their eco as my opponents would be defending rather than building more units for later attacks...
of course the side effect of it is tht i had to bare the attacks of the spiral nonetheless

not a good idea as his drones would be able to stop ur cannon rushes wit bigger surround since its much easier to be scouted as well...
wut more with a 13pool (14hatch) into lings, it'll jz kill ur probe...

has anyone tried using HuK's style from MLG into their own gameplay style?

which one?
the FE build?
been using his FE based builds a lot...
his mothership rush is a NO lol...

evo, i seem to cant get hold of his FE build...in terms of resources, wouldnt be a problem

after building 3rd gateway, i head on with the 4th..unlike previous, it would be a robo and then forge

losing like crazy....

the FE build is usually 3 gate with zealot and stalkers (occasional sentry if needed) off 1 gas...
when u drop ur nexus is depending on wut u scouted...
i always drop after the 2nd gate...
try watching day9daily 199 where huk did it...

god damn it~ I got rape by a MMM drop... Really hard to counter... I got 2 colo but stim MM just melt it..

get range upgrade...
micro colossus to be out of range...
and observers help to handle drops (or i prefer to jz have DT to kill drops now LOL)

will stim require factory any time soon?

u should worry about zerg nw...
roach spam is hard to stop now...

roach spam is hard to counter with immortal, they outnumber me 4 to 1. And to think tht roaqch only cost 1 food back in the day

Ouch. Just got rolled by a MMM too.
FE at 2nd Gate is still the best against it.
Just that I was so slow to build up my army.
My resources unused was too much.
Had like 2k minerals and like 600 gas waiting to be used.
Think I need more Warp Gates. Only had 5 up.

Is there a single viable and easy to execute b.o for team games? Wanna improve my protoss game play.. When I random always hate picked protoss

mass zealot, stalker + sentry...
if opponent mass marine+marauder, try expand n get collo...and continue mass all the 4 units + upgrades...
end of story

btw, it's a 4gate build as start...

This post has been edited by aLertz: Oct 20 2010, 12:55 PM

4 gate in single player is usually 1 gate pump around 1 stalker 1 zealot while waiting warp tech to complete, while warp gate is about to finish throw another 3 gate to sync with the warp tech timing. When all gate is done, it's ready to attack bring along probe, build pylon and attack..

The other problem is that in team game it's always harder to expand

well i dun really follow the real 4gate...
for me i usually get 1 gate, then cybernatic then another gate...
depending on opponent...if they got like 2 zerg at least...then get 2 gate 1st...
but overall, the concept is the same...doesn't really need to follow 100% since team game is based on your enemy and teammates play style...

tat's 4 gate all-in which is wrong (husky's version in fact)...
u would usually die before that vs terrans most of the time or any other aggressive player regardless of race...
even the 3gate fast warptech (chrono) is better than that build...

try to adjust the number of gates according to wut u scouted...
at times u might even use the double stalker opening into 4gate...
4gate is more like a transition to midgame over an opening...

I saw that in day9, in that video teaching you how to defend early rushes.
Thats the first time that I have ever seen a 4 gate lol...

i think back in those day before warpgate and zealot build time nerf, 4 gate is so so so good

nt really...
knowing day9, if u do that u would have access mineral which is a no-no for him...
gate -> core -> zealot -> stalker + warp -> 1st gate when u reach 150 excess (repeat this till the 4th gate)...