- and what comes after building the production building? build the damn units

- http://sc2armory.com/game/protoss/units/sentry

zerglings do range attack now? ok.

- so everyone massing stalkers are DOIN ET WRONG. tell that to the pro gamer korean thats playing SC2 for A LIVING


and christ maru.

i will go 2-3 gate and try to aim for immortal/colo

but my stalkers will still go for early aggression as im a more aggressive player and taking out even a scv or marine would satiate that bloodthirst lol

4 gate too hard vs T. all T has to get is tanks and you instant cry ady LOL

at least immortal can do *something* about it, or colo for high ground vision, and after thermal lance, you can snipe tanks with some good blink micro assist. (and colo > MM ball lol)

early aggression, even if its just SD ticking, it'd get his scv busy, and at least keep him contained, where you can attempt for expansions

And the problem of blinking right into the tank could also be suicidal as you are taking both tank AND marauder fire prior to blinking and even after blinking you are still taking fire.you may have snipe that one tank, he could've killed your entire stalker army

ONE zealot (which was sniped afaik loololololol), 3 gate producing nothing but stalkers. he only begin to actually get zealot once charge is researched as ive posted many times
and the reason he fail is cuz hes attacking a base with like 6 rax in it producing unit non stop, what'd ya expect? he didnt have proxy pylon to reinforce his army while STC is non stop reinforcing. not to mention the superior micro as demonstrated. (watch the zerg jooktojung match)

and what other "other t2/t3 unit support." all he had was one VR and later on phoenix. he massed stalkers/zealot/sentries even till the end :/

blink is as huge to stalkers as charge is to zealots. so now stalkers are considered t2? wat?

bear in mind, a small contributor to tester's fall was also due to the massing of zealots. they get stim raped, concussed, and more importantly, no blink and having long travel distance to save his base from drops.

granted, stalkers alone is not the answer, however the zealots can be used for something more worthy like say, more phoenixes to 1) prevent medivacs dropping 2) sniping off medivacs or rauder gravitron during actual confrontation 3) mineral line harass with gravitron

turnout could've been much better which was disappointing as tested started out really strong despite having stalker massed against the supposedly OPd marauder mass

rofl. guess all the pros whos been using it FAILD

and seriously, you're the one whos been harping how terribad stalkers are. tester is spamming stalkers until he get charge upgrade. if anyone is suggessting anything over what pros use, that would be you.

and no, he lost because of containment, and drop taking off his nexus. not really tech or production as army/income count are neck in neck till the whole dropping process start

equal, definitely not smaller, and STC was already well prepared on that blink with vision seeing them coming. and again, lets not forget tester fighting on STC's ground with units continue to produce non stop. by the end of that skirmish tester was already overwhelmed by new units and was forced to retreat.

and i will still stand by my stance that stalkers CAN be massed and be your backbone of your army, however i did not say zealots are not needed. what ive said is zealots are USELESS without charge. especially to any MARAUDER army with concussion and stun.

army/production/income tabs are equal on both sides until the drops begin. if you're still not convinced from the youtube, goto TL forum and find/download the replay. (i believe husky even shown the tabs and even commented about it)

as for my IGN, refer to my signature.

my replays are on first page.

boleh pun. lol

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Added on August 27, 2010, 8:19 pmgrind doesnt work, just get better

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 27 2010, 08:19 PM

saw the FAQ? lol

ill upload more then i guess lol

expensive, slow, and big red 'shoot me' sign and once it karam, you shitbrix

match making rating

its a term used in World of Warcraft arena. since they both are games by blizzard, people just relate them altogether

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Added on September 5, 2010, 2:27 pmhaha SEA

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Added on September 5, 2010, 2:33 pmdidnt got the time to watch the vid, however so far, even from the bits of experience during vista lasik and my 1v1 USA leagues, the most solid way i can find of to deal with MM ball is using colossi with stalkers (vikings do terrible terrible damage to colossi) and minor zealots (to guard a mm rush down on the colossus) guarding it. i know templars are nice and all, but they are limited to energy, and good microing MMMers (shitty medivacs) will heal ur storm dmg. that, and templars are so slow, when the terran decides for a rushdown, your templar is pretty much a gone case. and whatever storm you do your zealot have to take dmg from it too (sigh) while colossi doesnt deal FF dmg.

of course, this is from my perspective of hating casters in general lol. however imho, colossi is easier to prepare vs templar as 2 research is slower than 1 thermal lance research :/
and they arent energy limited, not to mention colossi moves like 10x faster than templars or someshit lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 5 2010, 02:33 PM

trust me, it works.

and from my twitter:


f*** YEAH PVT LOL

really useful PVZ guide that many protoss may encounter situations of, unker incx! prz first page this

you can BB woh, only 30? i dun believe loololol

spam moar stalkahs.

the key is colo's range after extended thermal lance upgrade. range 9 vs range 9 viking
same range. all you needed to do, is get ur stalkers ahead of colo, and once viking comes in to shoot, blink/forward micro, take them down

colo got shields, and you can easily abuse the regen of it. and if one side doesnt work, poke the other side as ur colo is mobile as f***
if you manage to force the terran into spamming rauders, swap stalkers to zealots and try to poke through his depot/blockade, and once breached, unleash doom upon him lol, dont even need charge lots btw, as ur colo will be doing the dmg. and as soon as the rauders backed off (either that or stand still and die) close your stalkers in to take out vikings

tough to micro, but i personally prefer this as transitioning into HTs aint ideal because of the gas spent on colo/stalk/thermal lance/weap upgrade, and THEN you need to get HT upgrades. zzzzz

stalkers arent exactly as weak as people put them to be. they still have more hp than marauders unless theres any ghosts around for emp, they can definitely take a beating or 2, and once the blockade is cleared, zealots can sweep in for the killing.

if the rauders stim, back off, let him slowly burn his health (and/or medivac's energy) you have all the time in the world so long he doesnt have any hidden expansions somewhere (which should NOT be the case with observers scouting)

remember, your stalkers at the end of the day, is ONLY to protect your colo from vikings, nothing more. colossus and zealots will deal with everything else. hell you can even FORCE him to deal with ur zealots when you got enough number to take a beating. which leaves him options:
1) go zealot, stalkers reign, they kill vikings
2) go stalkers, zealot will push through, and eventually slaughter the scvs
3) go colossus, he utter failed as rauders wont reach them and colo will snipe them off

and lets not forget, you pretty much contained the b****, and you can expand freely lol.

i pretty much have 2 gate/1 robo for 1 base. but whenever i 2nd base, before i even can fully saturate it, they gg. happens to BOTH terrans on vista lasik, and they are highly ranked with well over 200-300+ 1v1 played so they definitely arent total scrubs. while me.... 50+ 1v1 and platinum LOL!