Watched the replay.

Honestly only one glaring mistake that I would not have done. Everything else I would have either did the same or worse.

-Your probes did not mine at the expansion. You waited until your expansion nexus was up.

-I would have invested in charge. Allows me to mineral dump and make a legit difference in battles.

Other than that, MMM is really difficult for non-Terran. Was thinking of going HTs as well but teching for both Collusus and HT... takes a big toll on gas...

=(. Will Blizzard answer our Toss calls!!! T_T

Oh thanks. I'll try that again.
I was so busy trying to micro the phoenix that I just let my ground army auto attack haha.
Kinda screwed up battle for the last 3 games I had against zerg.
They must be laughing at what I was trying to do with my phoenix.

LOL i was so blur that i tech hallucination instead of warptech and when i pushed i realize i cant warp in reinforcement and got rolled...
luckily i manage to rebuild and kill him wit VRs...
i think VR is the only answer to terran >.<

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Added on September 4, 2010, 5:00 pmbtw i always make 2 stargate to pump out phoenix...
phoenix are insanely good in large numbers as wutever u lift off instantly get 1 shotted LOL

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 4 2010, 05:00 PM

Haha yea. Most of the games I won against that army was with VRs.
Just the latest one I don't know what to do. He turtled in base with siege tanks and marauders and the air was full of vikings. What do you think? Phoenix? Sounds like the only viable option until he saw it and filled his base with missile turrets haha. I was like crap... how do I break this shell now...

I'll try with the 2 stargates. I was with only one. Maybe that's why I could not get enough of them to kill my zerg opponent.
Only had 3 when army clashed.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 4 2010, 05:06 PM

i seriously have no idea how to play protoss...i usually mass units and stay at the base not knowing what to do....toss is my weakest....
any tips?

by the time i mass my units....its already gg for me..

can starcraft 2 work on Win7-64bit, 2GB DDR3, GT335M, 500GB HDD, CORE i5 ASUS laptop???
A42JC-VX042V
need any setting??

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no wonder ur phoenix was not working lol...
u need to pump em a lot...
they are pretty insane in masses...

as for VRs, its highly dependent on the opponent...
since i had a very very bad start, i'm force to go the VR route...
usually i rather go with the chargelot/ HTs as it renders their viking useless...

@ excript
be aggressive...
when u have ur warpgate out, u can reinforce anywhere in the map as long as u have a pylon/warp prism...
thus u can produce continuous pressure...

against terran..how to apply pressure when their siege tanks are out...going near them means feeding them d
headache fighting terran

Haha yea. I'll try to go chargelot/ht route and see how it goes against terran.
Seems quite powerful, easily lost my entire army in the dig mission just because of a few high templars casting storms.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 4 2010, 06:33 PM

ou ....i noticed that mistake too >.< ..i losed my 1st match agaisnt him ....so i really got fade up and nervous -->after how i lose the war with my army ....i let my emotion go over me ....sadly : ( ....lol

When i see tanks i'll go Simcity mode. If terran failed his timing push i'll also go simcity mode. Most of my PvT game is simcity. I don't go aggro early game because concussive shell is one retarded ability. It makes retreating impossible.

I think PvT is balanced mid/late game(ok maybe its due to my opponent being bad). The key unit is chargelots, immortals and HT. Occasionally i may get colly if i think i wont be able to fend off his push with just gateway units and immortals. Late game i just spam pylons all over the map. This will allow me to warp units all over the map. It'll also give you vision on incoming drops.

http://www.mediafire.com/?k5blq4l4ff7absx

how do you guys deal with mass banshees? mass stalkers? mass phoenix? seeing as observer move speed is super slow, half the time can't chase the banshees very far.

dont have to chase... juz bring an observer with u

or plant a few cannons in ur base.

Result of turtling+almost no scouting : http://www.mediafire.com/?0y4zv9ssaja2x25

I use 2 gate robo against terran, 1 ob on his ramp and 2 immortal bombard his wall, kinda effective.

yay just won against a turtling terran with 122 games played in silver league. i basically just didn't assault him, but camp outside his base to deny him his expansion, while i had one expansion + one on yellow minerals. eventually just mass tons of units and charge in. damn proud lol, cos i'm in bronze with only ~30 odd games

@juzjoe the thing is, if i don't chase and kill, i need to leave quite a bunch of ground units back at base so i can only assault with remainder portion, because banshees are faster than ground ... so ...

anyway today played 7 lost 5 looool ... but overall still +27 points up ... dunno how that's calculated ...

[edit2] watched replay, at the end of the game i had 5000 minerals so wow my macro/spending needs TONS of work ...

This post has been edited by deodorant: Sep 5 2010, 12:31 AM

Means your opponent were mostly above your currently MMR (unknown rating)

The zerg was like a blur haha. Really don't know what he is building. 3 expansions already and the amount of units he had was still so little.
He had at most one drone for each mineral patch it seems.

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Added on September 5, 2010, 9:38 amJust tried the chargelot/ht route.
Was incredible. Even with 2 HT, I almost decimated his entire army.
The problem was I only had 2 HT.

I need to get a few more and it should clear his army.
Colossus was great also. I'm still not used to microing it though.
Kept going in front and getting it killed.
Think I need to set it to one group to micro it properly.

@evofantasy
Think I understand now about the phoenix.
I was pressing G and clicking on each hydra so I end up lifting all the hydras and not killing any.
Now use shift G to queue the lifting, it worked better. Having 4 was great. 6 was definitely powerful. It worked wonders against the terran siege tanks too haha. As they can move so fast, shot them through the army to their back and lift and snipe.



This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 5 2010, 09:38 AM

pheonixes work very well in pvp as well. i think the most effective matchup. lift their immortals and can even shoot collosi

good to hear...
i always end up with 10++ phoenixes...
fly pass overlords and they jz die