If Colossus aren't working you could also use High Templar to Storm the m&m. Just be careful of Ghosts. Colossus can be sniped by Vikings which the Terran can easily make from the Starport he uses to make Medivacs, so sometimes Templar are better.

It depends on what's your opponent is going for. I always have trouble going against zerg players though.

Recently I used a build order, which apparently was supposed to be the general BO that every protoss users use, but seems like I'm ending in losing streaks. Gah.

9 Pylon
12 Gateway
13 Gas / Gateway
15 Cybernetics
so on and so forth...

Somehow I felt like having to wait till 9 probes for Pylon, isn't a bit tad too slow?

i dont think its a bit slow for 9 probes for pylon... plus u get more minerals while only sacrifying 2-3 seconds....

i just find out that u need at least 28 probe for one base... is that correct?? or more??

losing streak?? by cheese?? need to scout first... i think that build order is for game with terran.... cause i just learn that build order today.... and....

lol.... i got my first win against terran diamond player summore ... lol with colossus.... colossus ftw!!! he want to spam me with bc and nuke.... and my stalker whacked his bc while my colossus killed his ghost... hahahahahahahahaha ... thanks to the vid in the first page ....

This post has been edited by zariel: Aug 19 2010, 01:07 AM

9 pylon is ok. but if you know you're against zerg, or damn scared of dealing with zerg and ur opponent is random, SCOUT. see that 6 pool being laid? get a 8 py and start narrowing ur choke to fill it up with zealots. straight stalkers wont work against anything not over 13pool (12,11,10,9,8,7,6 kolam renang you name it basically lol)

and even when you got stalkers, do not even bother aggression against zerg whom you KNOW is still massing lings and potentially upgrading speed upgrade if you haven't gotten your blink researched. basically once core done, spam chrono on warp and blink and later on weapon upgrade only lol.

btw my 2nd gate comes out slower, in favor of faster cybernetics. in typically BO, i basically swap my gate with ur cybernetics. then eventually 1-2 more gate depending if i wanna 3 (sometimes even staying JUST 2) gate or 4 gate with robo/stargates

Somehow getting used to the BO already. Resource comes in pretty fast using this current build.

Anyway, updated the front page with some gameplay vids.

And here's 2 replays from me. One for Sichiri as requested.

Tele Play

Tele Play 2

Both similar gameplay styles but against Terran and Protoss.

This one's for Sich.

DTs & Chargelots

And I'm still on a losing streak.

This post has been edited by incx: Aug 19 2010, 11:50 PM

So sad, all Protoss players has been eliminated in the IEM tournament, WhiteRA and Huk did not make it

well whitera did played badly and he was cheesed vs madfrog at steppes of war lol...
i find huk doing well especially when he beat tarson but no luck i guess...
3 way tie for 2nd place in group C as well =(

Anyway way to counter Thor other than Immortal?

My 24 stalkers lost to 5 Thor with 5 scvs behind repairing it =.=

chargelots, HT's feedback, voidrays (need to micro em to spread though)

lol...i just lost a game yesterday when i have 10 stalkers + 4 sentries + 20 zealots lose to mass mm +3 thors + 2 medivacs + 2 raven...

I have chargelots and also lvl2 weapn upgrade =.=

maybe coz cant micro too much due to lag screen...

Time's to change a new comp...zzzz

hmmm i think his army is much bigger than urs...
from wut u tell me, ur army feels small especially compared to the MM ball...

hmmm..his units are almost same with me..which is about 70 to 68 for me (supply units count)

reviewed the replay already?

yea..i watched every replay i lost..

learn from mistakes..but i never stop mistakes lol

most of ur units are T1 and cost 2 supply each...
when he's up to the thor tech backed by MMM ball...
does he have steam? cause that's such a high dps boost...

maybe u should have do a timing push when ur charge and +1 is done instead of waiting for +2 with T1 units?

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 20 2010, 10:39 AM

20 zealots? imho you need to get ur more stalker and less zealots at this point, have the stalkers to blink in (not directly over the thors, just in range if they arent, speed is everything) + snipe the thors, they must be taken out immediately. then after the thors done, deal with the medivacs. so at least stim packs will slowly kill his MM ball by itself even IF you're gonna lose that confrontation. the zealots will have to deal with the MM ball themselves and refrain them from attacking thors, let the stalkers deal with it.

last but not least, while its damn hard to blink focus fires from stim packed MM, do try at least. if he isnt focus firing and are scattering his dps around, then your chances of stalker survival goes up tremendously. ignore the zealots though, they are your meatshield and your primary dps against MM, the terran will have to choose between your zealots or your stalkers and either choice you have the advantage.

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Added on August 20, 2010, 10:51 amSTIM(ulant) packs. FFS.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 20 2010, 10:51 AM

LOL!

>.<
used to typing steam over stim lol...
blame the dictionary function =p

Just lost 2 games to Terran players... once again its the MM ball ... .haihz. MM Ball + Medivac and 2 siege tanks = gg for me.

For some reason i never won against terran players.

When u try to get close, u get pounded by marauders, when ure far away siege tanks eat you up. I had around 10 zealots and 8 stalkers, and 2 carriers, his MM ball comes and destroys everything lol. He stimpacked his marines to destroy my carriers ( which happened REALLY fast ), and chewed everything else with Marauders. DAMN i hate marauders SOOO much. Think i should have gotten high templars instead of carriers. Bad investment there...

Instead of 2 carriers i couldve gotten 2 highs and 2 darks... use the dark to flank them, and chargelots to tank... psi to finish them off or sumthing.
But then again, i have bad apm.

you said it urself, carrier was ur prob