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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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evofantasy
post Aug 9 2010, 04:24 PM

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Good read on counters (on thor counters) and why are they bad if u focus too much into em...

The question is rather generic... People tend to think too much in terms of "what single unit counters this single unit". Looking at the bigger picture will help. For example, if he's going straight thors, it's pretty ridiculous, and any healthy marine/marauder mix will destroy it. If the thor player is a bit smarter, and has Thors supported with a marine+medivac meatshield, the "counter" becomes more complex. In that case, something with Siege Tanks would be more effective. Try to engage the player where you have a good setup of tanks in siege mode. Use either Hellions (since you'll have factories anyway for tanks) or just your own marine+marauder combo as a meatshield. If your tanks are well-placed, they'll do a ton of punishment to both his clustered marine meatshield, and will also out-range the thors, getting some good damage in.

If you think too simplistically (X counters Y), your strategies will also be simple (and extreme), and countered just as simply. For example, you may think "Banshees would destroy Siege Tanks". But that would also only work if he has little to no marine support, and also means you'd have to "react" and build starports and tech up your Banshees before they even came into play... in the meantime you're screwed, if this "hard counter" (terrible word to use) Banshee tactic wasn't built in to your plan to begin with. Try to think of the bigger picture, with solid mixes of units (more than just reactionary counters), and also streamlined tech/build/expand patterns with subtle adjustments to handle specific opponents.

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Added on August 9, 2010, 4:27 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2010, 04:24 PM)
doesnt matter on toss, or zerg or even TVT. i just MM like a retard. if terran early tank, then thats the end of me. however i still got a chance with MMM medivacs drop or counter tank also since econ is healthy on my MM BO lol

like i said, T for victory. wish protoss have that i win button, lol
B button didnt have as much impact as T button >.>
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well i am a toss player so only got to experience it from a toss view haha...
even if i manage to hold it off, i would have lost some buildings usually...

marauders jz rape so much early game...
and backed with marines they are really a balanced group...
unless u got chargelots, its a nightmare rclxub.gif

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post Aug 9 2010, 05:32 PM

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Stim hit and run still able to render chargelots pretty useless. I rather go for HT into Archons
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post Aug 9 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 9 2010, 05:32 PM)
Stim hit and run still able to render chargelots pretty useless. I rather go for HT into Archons
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this. lol.

they charge, slice 1-2 off. got concussed, MM pulls back while under stim, see zealot melts.
rinse repeat.

cry rivers. lol
evofantasy
post Aug 9 2010, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 9 2010, 05:32 PM)
Stim hit and run still able to render chargelots pretty useless. I rather go for HT into Archons
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well u sitll need something to accompany ur HTs...
i usually use zealot/ HT backed by stalkers...
u can go the sentry/stalkers/HT but gas heavy a little...
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 9 2010, 05:42 PM)
well u sitll need something to accompany ur HTs...
i usually use zealot/ HT backed by stalkers...
u can go the sentry/stalkers/HT but gas heavy a little...
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but first u need to chose whether you want to finish the game in 15 to 30 minutes or more than that.... tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(zariel @ Aug 9 2010, 06:20 PM)
but first u need to chose whether you want to finish the game in 15 to 30 minutes or more than that.... tongue.gif
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HTs would last u the entire game weather its 15min or 1hour...
remember that energy based units becomes more valuable towards the late game...
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post Aug 9 2010, 09:41 PM

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This maybe a little unrelated, but a funny replay of mine on why you should not mass voids, lol.

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/repl...tails&id=137142
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post Aug 10 2010, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(Mio4Ever @ Aug 9 2010, 09:41 PM)
This maybe a little unrelated, but a funny replay of mine on why you should not mass voids, lol.

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/repl...tails&id=137142
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but i got 2 replays that says rays are awsm D:
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post Aug 10 2010, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 10 2010, 12:33 AM)
but i got 2 replays that says rays are awsm D:
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2v1, voidrays are awesome!!!!
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post Aug 10 2010, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 10 2010, 01:29 AM)
2v1, voidrays are awesome!!!!
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzz

oh wait, vuvuzelas

D:
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post Aug 10 2010, 04:44 PM

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Where are dem replays!
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post Aug 10 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Aug 10 2010, 04:44 PM)
Where are dem replays!
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=35463166

posted ady dei.

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post Aug 10 2010, 07:37 PM

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I'm still around, doing both actually. Put up on the front page already. If anyone has any videos to contribute, do post them here.
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post Aug 10 2010, 08:17 PM

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What are you guys counter against mass marauders + thors?
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post Aug 10 2010, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(incx @ Aug 10 2010, 07:37 PM)
I'm still around, doing both actually. Put up on the front page already. If anyone has any videos to contribute, do post them here.
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eh those are not videos dei, sc2 replay files lol.


Added on August 10, 2010, 8:37 pm
QUOTE(Phonzy @ Aug 10 2010, 08:17 PM)
What are you guys counter against mass marauders + thors?
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if you're absolutely sure he only got rauder/thor, and you sure he cant/wont switch tech, mass immortal (Y)

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post Aug 10 2010, 09:09 PM

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Oops. Mistake. Renamed. laugh.gif
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void rays are win!
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:56 PM

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my weaknesses are muta's and marauders sad.gif
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post Aug 10 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 10 2010, 05:08 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=35463166

posted ady dei.

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lol taokaka?
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post Aug 10 2010, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 10 2010, 10:38 PM)
lol taokaka?
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