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victor2212
post Nov 11 2010, 12:35 AM

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If convert to ps2 from usb, driver still can work? Still can macro? hmm.gif

Razer BlackWidow 'Expert' Mechanical Gaming Keyboard-T2 - RM 269

Razer BlackWidow 'Ultimate Elite' Mechanical Gaming Keyboard-T1 - RM 339

wth ngbh so cheap?

real anot, 339 for ultimate shocking.gif shocking.gif

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post Nov 11 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 10 2010, 11:22 PM)
Razer Black Widow (lighted and non-lighted): 2KRO. Fails ZXC. Well optimized around WASD/ESDF clusters. Not so much for arrow key users - any combo above 2 arrow keys fails.
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=NKe...ogy+and+Results
Dont think that it is achievable.... cry.gif
I hope that it is software problems than a hardware problems.
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waw. sad case. since the usb is also for its led[s],wonder with the coverter, still got power for led or not.
and also macro and the driver.
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post Nov 11 2010, 12:59 AM

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Don't judge before trying it out for real la~ doh.gif now it's just speculation about the Black Widow~ whistling.gif
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:02 AM

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Think it is quite impossible to use the converter to solve the KRO issue since PS/2 shouldn't be able to supply power for the backlit and also allow the macro recording.

@Victor
Where you get the price? Really?
6Gv2 also much more expensive.
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Lil Kiasu @ Nov 11 2010, 12:59 AM)
Don't judge before trying it out for real la~ doh.gif now it's just speculation about the Black Widow~ whistling.gif
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i know its real because, united states launched adi ma, means ppl at geek hack already tested it tongue.gif.

So sad 2nkro laugh.gif

some ppl like everdying also get d. he can help checck also


Added on November 11, 2010, 1:04 am
QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 01:02 AM)
Think it is quite impossible to use the converter to solve the KRO issue since PS/2 shouldn't be able to supply power for the backlit and also allow the macro recording.

@Victor
Where you get the price? Really?
6Gv2 also much more expensive.
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some ngbh dude lowyat sales. dunno comfirm price anot.

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post Nov 11 2010, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Nov 11 2010, 01:03 AM)
i know its real because, united states launched adi ma, means ppl at geek hack already tested it tongue.gif.

So sad 2nkro  laugh.gif

some ppl like everdying also get d. he can help checck also


Added on November 11, 2010, 1:04 am

some ngbh dude lowyat sales. dunno comfirm price anot.
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I got no doubt for it is only 2kro because lycosa is like dat also. Not surprising, the point is can't realize Razer never try to solve this.
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 01:09 AM)
I got no doubt for it is only 2kro because lycosa is like dat also. Not surprising, the point is can't realize Razer never try to solve this.
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maybe they dont find the need to?
but a mechanical keyboard with just 2KRO, thats sad. sad.gif
if it it's 2KRO pose no problem when playing fps, imma get it anyways.
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post Nov 11 2010, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Nov 11 2010, 01:11 AM)
maybe they dont find the need to?
but a mechanical keyboard with just 2KRO, thats sad.  sad.gif
if it it's 2KRO pose no problem when playing fps, imma get it anyways.
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2KRO definitely killing most of the user.

Hope razer do something to solve this.
WoW player must pray hard that Anansi won't has such issue, if yes i don't how you can play WoW with a keyboard that only support 2 button in a moment.
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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 01:43 AM)
2KRO definitely killing most of the user.

Hope razer do something to solve this.
WoW player must pray hard that Anansi won't has such issue, if yes i don't how you can play WoW with a keyboard that only support 2 button in a moment.
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not realy

Logitech G11 : 2KRO. Fails QA -Downarrow. Logitech refuses to talk about failure modes.
Logitech Gaming Keyboard G110: 2KRO Fails ZXC, MKL. Source.
Logitech G15V1: 2KRO Fails Rshift-RightArrow-UpArrow, Rctrl-DownArrow-LeftArrow Source
Logitech G15V2: 2KRO.
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: 2KRO. Fails Lshift-W-Spacebar. No bunny jumping with this one! Source.
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 : 2KRO. Fails Ctrl-W-R. No reloading while crawling! Source.
Razer Black Widow (lighted and non-lighted): 2KRO. Fails ZXC. Well optimized around WASD/ESDF clusters. Not so much for arrow key users - any combo above 2 arrow keys fails. Source 1. Source 2 (note CTRL-AQ does work).
Razer Lycosa: 2KRO. Fails HJK but passes ASX. Source.
Saitek Eclipse: 2KRO. Fails QWA, LOP. Source.
SteelSeries 6Gv1: 2KRO. Fails QAS, WSD despite being advertised as 8KRO Source.
SteelSeries Merc Stealth: 2KRO. Fails ERT, DFG, CVB despite being advertised as 7KRO. Source.

ppl has been using al this logitech keyboards, no complains from them also.
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 11 2010, 02:19 AM)
May be they just dont realise and thought and blame on their own skills instead? rclxms.gif
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Swt, posted something on another thread also.

Major problem is because BW and lycosa is fail in ZXC which is never happen to other keyboards (except G110)
Maybe it is unnoticeable until 1 day really using this few keys together. I first time sense this is because i am playing SDO, then i start realize this problem existing.
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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Nov 11 2010, 02:12 AM)
not realy

Logitech G11 : 2KRO. Fails QA -Downarrow. Logitech refuses to talk about failure modes.
Logitech Gaming Keyboard G110: 2KRO Fails ZXC, MKL. Source.
Logitech G15V1: 2KRO Fails Rshift-RightArrow-UpArrow, Rctrl-DownArrow-LeftArrow Source
Logitech G15V2: 2KRO.
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: 2KRO. Fails Lshift-W-Spacebar. No bunny jumping with this one! Source.
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 : 2KRO. Fails Ctrl-W-R. No reloading while crawling! Source.[U]
Razer Black Widow (lighted and non-lighted): 2KRO. Fails ZXC. Well optimized around WASD/ESDF clusters. Not so much for arrow key users - any combo above 2 arrow keys fails. Source 1. Source 2 (note CTRL-AQ does work).
Razer Lycosa: 2KRO. Fails HJK but passes ASX. Source.
Saitek Eclipse: 2KRO. Fails QWA, LOP. Source.
SteelSeries 6Gv1: 2KRO. Fails QAS, WSD despite being advertised as 8KRO Source.
SteelSeries Merc Stealth: 2KRO. Fails ERT, DFG, CVB despite being advertised as 7KRO. Source.

ppl has been using al this logitech keyboards, no complains from them also.
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lol. i`m using x6 atm, and it doesnt pose a problem to me when playing fps.
bought it after i realized that when i dont prone + reload + move at the same time.
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post Nov 11 2010, 02:58 AM

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Razer Black Widow (lighted and non-lighted): 2KRO. Fails ZXC. Well optimized around WASD/ESDF clusters. Not so much for arrow key users - any combo above 2 arrow keys fails.

This is a problem for those using arrow key to ply fps.

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 02:58 AM)
Razer Black Widow (lighted and non-lighted): 2KRO. Fails ZXC. Well optimized around WASD/ESDF clusters. Not so much for arrow key users - any combo above 2 arrow keys fails.

This is a problem for those using arrow key to ply fps.
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but does a lot of ppl use arrow keys to play?
i do know that ppl use wasd and also esdf. but arrow key. hmm.gif
for razer to do this to their first mech board is rly doh.gif
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post Nov 11 2010, 03:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Nov 11 2010, 03:18 AM)
but does a lot of ppl use arrow keys to play?
i do know that ppl use wasd and also esdf. but arrow key.  hmm.gif
for razer to do this to their first mech board is rly  doh.gif
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Not really, never see any righties using arrow key before.

But see few lefties use it before, for them using mouse by using left hand, usually using arrow key or numpad to play.
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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 11 2010, 03:34 AM)
Not really, never see any righties using arrow key before.

But see few lefties use it before, for them using mouse by using left hand, usually using arrow key or numpad to play.
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well so much for razer caring for their consumers who are lefties. hint razer da left hand edition hint hint.
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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Nov 11 2010, 03:49 AM)
well so much for razer caring for their consumers who are lefties. hint razer da left hand edition hint hint.
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No any other brand producing left hander's gaming mouse, so all left hander gamer is Razer's market.
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post Nov 11 2010, 07:07 AM

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hey sifus,

quick question. in terms of COMFORT and ERGONOMIC as a priority. would you reckon the deathadder or imperator?

if this was asked before in the 1239812391284312 posts before this, i'm sorry, but hey, hope u guys are understanding and may give me a quick opinion!

cheers
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sensor, i would like DA. shape, Imperator tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Nov 11 2010, 07:07 AM)
hey sifus,

quick question. in terms of COMFORT and ERGONOMIC as a priority. would you reckon the deathadder or imperator?

if this was asked before in the 1239812391284312 posts before this, i'm sorry, but hey, hope u guys are understanding and may give me a quick opinion!

cheers
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the shape is entirely personal. you should test both of them out first.
some may like the dent for the thumb. and some may not.

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Nov 11 2010, 06:07 AM)
hey sifus,

quick question. in terms of COMFORT and ERGONOMIC as a priority. would you reckon the deathadder or imperator?

if this was asked before in the 1239812391284312 posts before this, i'm sorry, but hey, hope u guys are understanding and may give me a quick opinion!

cheers
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test them out 1st...
but for me deathadder is a better choice

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