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post May 15 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(gomes. @ May 14 2012, 08:42 AM)
The roads there already jammed up for the past few years (even when factory demolished), with this project coming up the whole area will be jammed up even more. Wouldnt want to live there. With the paradigm mall nearby, i cant imagine how much pressure the LDP and internal roads are going to take, seriously going to jam up even further. Especially during 6pm-8pm at night even know the whole area is jammed. With paradigm in full swing in a few years and icon city also, seriously going to be massive traffic jam. Rather prefer to invest in newer areas south.

Edit: RM1,000 psf, lol rclxub.gif  I dont really see why people want to live in condo's/high rise in malaysia. Pay so much money for 700 square feet apartment, i can buy a terrace house with that money, 2 storey somemore! I can buy landed property and have my own land.
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QUOTE(jinike @ May 15 2012, 01:22 AM)
I grew up in sgway... for the past 20 over years I stay in sgway...i don't think that area worht RM1000/sqft, some more is LH ...this is mont kiara pricing, and mont kiara is freehold + have expat, international school....this area ? now full of indo and sabahan , sarawakian in sgway , my house there rented to western digital for the past 7 years...every years getting more n more sabahan , sarawakian n indo moving in sgway...now the whole village became kampong sabahan....my unit rented to WD, there are >70 ppl staying insides, ad not only my house, in fact the whole sgway, nearly 70% of the house owner rented out their house...why? becoz it is already not good for staying....all indo + sabahan...n yet, rented to WS get good offer  rclxms.gif  some of my neighbour collection 8-10k rental  for a 4000-5000sqft size house. why not ? haha....better rented out, and buy other better location...

so, come this mahsing icon city...huh, if it is priced reasonable, i maybe will look at it, that day when I go the sales office, the sales girl approach me... talk like this project is only heaven have it, can't find any on earth...I ask her, why selling RM1000+/sqft, she says...becoz mahsing ma...and good location, i replied, my friend just bought 1 unit condo in mont kiara, freehold, better location ( with all expat neighbourhood, international school...etc) just RM1000 -+....this area behind is  a  big n ugly longkang ( drainage ) n cheap single storey link house, and sgway full of indo... guess what, she don't know how to reply my question...n all the  staff there , even the bank officer there look like so lanci when i ask them question, seem nobody want to entertain me, maybe i just wear t-shirt + short pant + slipper n walk-in....they look at me from bottom to my head...seem that i m not able to buy any unit there....

this kind of salesperson is really unprofessional..... i remember last 2 week i walk into SHC seringing sales office, also walk in wearing t-shirt, short pant + slipper...but the salesgirl there provide a very good service, and entertainment me very politely n with good smile....

if i were to buy, i g back , i will not look for those lanci salesperson...my friend who bought 4 unit verse suites in mont kiara, oso wear slipper + short pant like me, who can guess his pocket actually nearly 20m worth of property n cash ? those unprofessional salesperson only like those white collar walk-in customer, dress very nicely n formal.... my office have a few U graduate  dress the same, all work for me ...and  I don't need to work, so why i need to dress like a white collar ? wtf...really hate those dog eye look ppl down...
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QUOTE(jinike @ May 15 2012, 01:22 AM)
I grew up in sgway... for the past 20 over years I stay in sgway...i don't think that area worht RM1000/sqft, some more is LH ...this is mont kiara pricing, and mont kiara is freehold + have expat, international school....this area ? now full of indo and sabahan , sarawakian in sgway , my house there rented to western digital for the past 7 years...every years getting more n more sabahan , sarawakian n indo moving in sgway...now the whole village became kampong sabahan....my unit rented to WD, there are >70 ppl staying insides, ad not only my house, in fact the whole sgway, nearly 70% of the house owner rented out their house...why? becoz it is already not good for staying....all indo + sabahan...n yet, rented to WS get good offer  rclxms.gif  some of my neighbour collection 8-10k rental  for a 4000-5000sqft size house. why not ? haha....better rented out, and buy other better location...

so, come this mahsing icon city...huh, if it is priced reasonable, i maybe will look at it, that day when I go the sales office, the sales girl approach me... talk like this project is only heaven have it, can't find any on earth...I ask her, why selling RM1000+/sqft, she says...becoz mahsing ma...and good location, i replied, my friend just bought 1 unit condo in mont kiara, freehold, better location ( with all expat neighbourhood, international school...etc) just RM1000 -+....this area behind is  a  big n ugly longkang ( drainage ) n cheap single storey link house, and sgway full of indo... guess what, she don't know how to reply my question...n all the  staff there , even the bank officer there look like so lanci when i ask them question, seem nobody want to entertain me, maybe i just wear t-shirt + short pant + slipper n walk-in....they look at me from bottom to my head...seem that i m not able to buy any unit there....

this kind of salesperson is really unprofessional..... i remember last 2 week i walk into SHC seringing sales office, also walk in wearing t-shirt, short pant + slipper...but the salesgirl there provide a very good service, and entertainment me very politely n with good smile....

if i were to buy, i g back , i will not look for those lanci salesperson...my friend who bought 4 unit verse suites in mont kiara, oso wear slipper + short pant like me, who can guess his pocket actually nearly 20m worth of property n cash ? those unprofessional salesperson only like those white collar walk-in customer, dress very nicely n formal.... my office have a few U graduate  dress the same, all work for me ...and  I don't need to work, so why i need to dress like a white collar ? wtf...really hate those dog eye look ppl down...
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Totally agree with you, I would also prefer to invest in mont kiara. Man, even the new and prime condos in mont kiara are selling less than RM1000/sqft.
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QUOTE(gomes. @ May 15 2012, 02:34 AM)
Totally agree with you, I would also prefer to invest in mont kiara. Man, even the new and prime condos in mont kiara are selling less than RM1000/sqft.
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I think if I ever ready to invest $1k/sqf, I will topup a bit and put it in Eco City as it's a safer bet than this. For some reason, I don't see this project is ready for 1k/sqf yet.
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post May 15 2012, 09:24 AM

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if really this becomes another midvalley, then possibilities are there.
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before mid valley built, ppl also complaint that area surrounded with many low cost flat, and temples...sure cant make it...

before sunway pyramid built, ppl said that that area is mining land, sure cant make it...

now look at these 2 places...jam everyday frm morning til late night...is the 2 major shopping commercial places in klang valley..


as long as mah sing complete the icon city as per plan...then succesfully attract shop tennats oocupy there...sure is not a problem become another midvalley....PJ,Subang always fully with working class ppl and college students...somemore the location is so abvious.....sure can attract the crowd...at that time...u wont look at the low cost flat surrounded at icon city..ur eyes will only look at the icon city itself...
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this project higher chance of becoming another mid valley or empire city?
all also claim mid valley
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post May 15 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ May 15 2012, 10:22 AM)
before mid valley built, ppl also complaint that area surrounded with many low cost flat, and temples...sure cant make it...

before sunway pyramid built, ppl said that that area is mining land, sure cant make it...

now look at these 2 places...jam everyday frm morning til late night...is the 2 major shopping commercial places in klang valley..
as long as mah sing complete the icon city as per plan...then succesfully attract shop tennats oocupy there...sure is not a problem become another midvalley....PJ,Subang always fully with working class ppl and college students...somemore the location is so abvious.....sure can attract the crowd...at that time...u wont look at the low cost flat surrounded at icon city..ur eyes will only look at the icon city itself...
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The low cost flats is really an eye sore sure will focus on it. Not maintain well. Plus icon city neighbors are slums. Sunway pyramid were at least medium class house develop by the same developer.
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post May 15 2012, 10:33 AM

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Hong Leong bank is the main financer for icon city. Anyone need assistance with their loan can pm me. Thanks.
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even the rich china man also chicken out when cancelled 2 block with selling price 1200
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To: Jinike
How do you know that staying with sabahan, sarawakian and Indonesia is not good? Cause they are low class people working in WD?

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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ May 15 2012, 06:35 PM)
To: Jinike
How do you know that staying with sabahan, sarawakian and Indonesia is not good? Cause they are low class people working in WD?
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Dun look down ppl la jinkie, working in factory doesnt mean they are low class or bad ppl, and why u say sabahan and sarawakian not good, u think uslf very high class ppl meh, the way u look donw on ppl just prove that u r even lower class compare to factory workers..shame on u
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QUOTE(clanzkiller @ May 15 2012, 06:35 PM)
To: Jinike
How do you know that staying with sabahan, sarawakian and Indonesia is not good? Cause they are low class people working in WD?
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they are my tenant , I know well. not to say say low class, I never tend to insult anybody here, but to pointed out the fact and real situation in sgway now. every time when I go inspect my house, u know what ? they just simply throw the " sanitary pack " into the toilet bowl... mad.gif



The room and living room is like a mess, now even the road outside the house along the whole sgway village become dirty and found all the rubbish every where,and they throw the rubbish directly into the drainage. they like to eat and throw all the plastic bag every where..and when the walk along the road, u will find your hard way to drive your car through, u guess what..they are all holding hand by hand walk like a crab....people say 打横行 ( walk horizon and block the whole road ) if you hon them, they will walk even more slowly pretending never see u...

and u can simply saw many of them wearing sarong walking and sitting in front of the house... some like to sit in front of the house dating with the lover from other place...and had been a lot of cases there, where WD send some of the top management staff come and inspect and prevent them for having affair with outsiders...

so, if you are paying RM1000/sqft , you like this kind of neighbourhood ? I don't mind if i m just paying Rm100/sqft...but now we are talking RM1000/sqft...and some more LH property.

just my 2 cents...if you don't familiar that place, better go investigate yourself there... I stay there for the past 20 over years, and every week go there for inspection of my house. ( try go in evening n you will see more fact )


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QUOTE(doomdoom @ May 15 2012, 07:53 PM)
Dun look down ppl la jinkie, working in factory doesnt mean they are low class or bad ppl, and why u say sabahan and sarawakian not good, u think uslf very high class ppl meh, the way u look donw on ppl just prove that u r even lower class compare to factory workers..shame on u
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i never look down anybody, but I say it is not good for staying with them at that place especially paying RM1000/sqft,read my comment properly upper. if u are not the owner there n u can't feel what i trying to share. i dont mean to insult anybody, but pointed out , think twice b4 invest for a RM1000/sqft neighbourhood. this is what i intent to share with you guy. nod.gif

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ May 15 2012, 10:22 AM)
before mid valley built, ppl also complaint that area surrounded with many low cost flat, and temples...sure cant make it...

before sunway pyramid built, ppl said that that area is mining land, sure cant make it...

now look at these 2 places...jam everyday frm morning til late night...is the 2 major shopping commercial places in klang valley..
as long as mah sing complete the icon city as per plan...then succesfully attract shop tennats oocupy there...sure is not a problem become another midvalley....PJ,Subang always fully with working class ppl and college students...somemore the location is so abvious.....sure can attract the crowd...at that time...u wont look at the low cost flat surrounded at icon city..ur eyes will only look at the icon city itself...
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Mid valley is kl address next to bangsar, damansara heights and taman desa. Icon city is pj address next to Sg way and WD.
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ May 15 2012, 07:57 PM)
Mid valley is kl address next to bangsar, damansara heights and taman desa. Icon city is pj address next to Sg way and WD.
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to be fair for icon city, no doubt, if Mah Sing can plan the whole township accordingly ( as their plan in the master plan, especially the claimed 200m value of road ) this project might be another mid valley. well who knows ?

IF, MS can not fulfill what is say ( the 200M raod, can not built accordingly and can not get approval, at the mean time they can not guarantee it is approved by authority ) then it will become something like the opposite project !

my uncle got a few unit in dataran mentari , some where near the low cost flat there...now 80% of the offices are empty...no ppl want to rent....rental is RM800 for a 750sqft , with toilet office suite.

becoz, it has no convenient road link to the project. now this MS project, unless the said road is built, if not, u will find difficult to reach icon city....try to feel it in the morning between 730am - 930 and evening between 430pm to 730pm....they need traffic police there to help control the bad traffic they, becoz many car come from sgway want to curi ayam turn into sunway....( they are not allowed to trun into sunway, only allow to tur right into federal hghway ) and many car from sunway want to turn into LDP and head up to SS2 direction, but oso not allowed, force to turn into federal highway heading to KL direction....

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I must say I am utterly AMAZED by how TMS priced their unit.
Just came back from Penang and learned about TMS's Southbay in knn kampung Batu Maung, RM800psf for 1,000 sq ft. *jawdropped kaw kaw*
Elsewhere, IJM The Light prices 1,600 sq ft with MUCH better development concept at RM500 psf, in a MUCH better location.
Even E&O Quayside subsale only RM900psf in a MUCH convincing location.

TMS really TMS, I will never touch their product.
Their success in the recent 5 years was mainly due to the broad market movement upwards, they develop nothing special IMHO.
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Lets see the end product in 2015 wink.gif


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QUOTE(1282009 @ May 15 2012, 10:23 PM)
Lets see the end product in 2015 wink.gif
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I-Con needs more than 3 years, even its soXo needs 4 years and whole development need 8 years correct me if i m wrong.. i told the agent, that is too much opportunity cost before i can realize the gain n potential.. thus i giv it a skip nod.gif
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QUOTE(kbandito @ May 15 2012, 08:53 PM)
I must say I am utterly AMAZED by how TMS priced their unit.
Just came back from Penang and learned about TMS's Southbay in knn kampung Batu Maung, RM800psf for 1,000 sq ft. *jawdropped kaw kaw*
Elsewhere, IJM The Light prices 1,600 sq ft with MUCH better development concept at RM500 psf, in a MUCH better location.
Even E&O Quayside subsale only RM900psf in a MUCH convincing location.

TMS really TMS, I will never touch their product.
Their success in the recent 5 years was mainly due to the broad market movement upwards, they develop nothing special IMHO.
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U are right. Batu Maung no doubt is an upcoming town mainly thanks to the 2nd link but the price is crazily super duper high and they try to sell booming area property at premium prices, leave no room for capital appreciation for buyers. I did enquiry on Southbay project before and thought the price should be around $400/sqft but to my amaze it is 2x of my expectations (RM800/sqft) or I should say even more expensive than prime area such as Gurney...lol. Now they try to replicate the premium selling price on Icon City PJ and Mont Kiara. If you read the thread on Kinrara Residence, many buyers are complaining that paying premium prices for the house but the finishing is awful and getting low quality tiles and grill. Same as you, Im avoiding all MS projects until they prove I'm wrong.


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QUOTE(jinike @ May 15 2012, 01:22 AM)
I grew up in sgway... for the past 20 over years I stay in sgway...i don't think that area worht RM1000/sqft, some more is LH ...this is mont kiara pricing, and mont kiara is freehold + have expat, international school....this area ? now full of indo and sabahan , sarawakian in sgway , my house there rented to western digital for the past 7 years...every years getting more n more sabahan , sarawakian n indo moving in sgway...now the whole village became kampong sabahan....my unit rented to WD, there are >70 ppl staying insides, ad not only my house, in fact the whole sgway, nearly 70% of the house owner rented out their house...why? becoz it is already not good for staying....all indo + sabahan...n yet, rented to WS get good offer  rclxms.gif  some of my neighbour collection 8-10k rental  for a 4000-5000sqft size house. why not ? haha....better rented out, and buy other better location...

so, come this mahsing icon city...huh, if it is priced reasonable, i maybe will look at it, that day when I go the sales office, the sales girl approach me... talk like this project is only heaven have it, can't find any on earth...I ask her, why selling RM1000+/sqft, she says...becoz mahsing ma...and good location, i replied, my friend just bought 1 unit condo in mont kiara, freehold, better location ( with all expat neighbourhood, international school...etc) just RM1000 -+....this area behind is  a  big n ugly longkang ( drainage ) n cheap single storey link house, and sgway full of indo... guess what, she don't know how to reply my question...n all the  staff there , even the bank officer there look like so lanci when i ask them question, seem nobody want to entertain me, maybe i just wear t-shirt + short pant + slipper n walk-in....they look at me from bottom to my head...seem that i m not able to buy any unit there....

this kind of salesperson is really unprofessional..... i remember last 2 week i walk into SHC seringing sales office, also walk in wearing t-shirt, short pant + slipper...but the salesgirl there provide a very good service, and entertainment me very politely n with good smile....

if i were to buy, i g back , i will not look for those lanci salesperson...my friend who bought 4 unit verse suites in mont kiara, oso wear slipper + short pant like me, who can guess his pocket actually nearly 20m worth of property n cash ? those unprofessional salesperson only like those white collar walk-in customer, dress very nicely n formal.... my office have a few U graduate  dress the same, all work for me ...and  I don't need to work, so why i need to dress like a white collar ? wtf...really hate those dog eye look ppl down...
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QUOTE(jinike @ May 15 2012, 07:56 PM)
they are my tenant , I know well. not to say say low class, I never tend to insult anybody here, but to pointed out the fact and real situation in sgway now.  every time when I go inspect my house, u know what ? they just simply throw the " sanitary pack " into the toilet bowl... mad.gif
The room and living room is like a mess, now even the road outside the house along the whole sgway village become dirty and found all the rubbish every where,and they throw the rubbish directly into the drainage.  they like to eat and throw all the plastic bag every where..and when the walk along the road, u will find your hard way to drive your car through, u guess what..they are all holding hand by hand walk like a crab....people say 打横行 ( walk horizon and block the whole road ) if you hon them, they will  walk even more slowly pretending never see u...

and u can simply saw many of them wearing sarong walking and sitting in front of the house... some like to sit in front of the house dating with the lover from other place...and had been a lot of cases there, where WD send some of the top management staff come and  inspect and prevent them for having affair with outsiders...

so, if you are paying RM1000/sqft , you like this kind of neighbourhood ? I don't mind if i m just paying Rm100/sqft...but now we are talking RM1000/sqft...and some more LH property.

just my 2 cents...if you don't familiar that place, better go investigate yourself there... I stay there for the past 20 over years, and every week go there for inspection of my house. ( try go in evening n you will see more fact )


Added on May 15, 2012, 7:57 pm

i never look down anybody, but I say it is not good for staying with them at that place especially paying RM1000/sqft,read my comment properly upper. if u are not the owner there n u can't feel what i trying to share. i dont mean to insult anybody, but pointed out , think twice b4 invest for a RM1000/sqft neighbourhood. this is what i intent to share with you guy. nod.gif
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First, you look down on Sarawakians and Sabahans for wearing sarong. Next, you wore slipper and wonder why you got a cold shoulder from Mah Sing's salesperson.

Perhaps you should understand why now. doh.gif
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Sanitary pack - most ppl do that, even ppl from japan, US or wherever around the globe.
Rubbish - most of our Malaysian do this, not only them.
Room in messed - most of them I believe is from urban area. In urban area, they do not intend to keep the house clean, is not they are lazy, but the house will be in a mess after few hours of clean up. Is too normal for them.
Holding hand - this is their cultural and you will be shocked if you go their country and most of them is doing that especially Bangladesh. Is a sign of friendship. But for us, is either gay or something negative.
Wear sarong/singlet/half naked - is urban cultural as well. If they do this in that area, means they are comfortable with the area d. Means nothing to us I guess.

You're right in exposing the nearby area, but some words are too sensitive. Try not to pin point certain race in doing bad thing. Sometimes over detail not good..cheers bro smile.gif

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