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post Jan 25 2017, 10:53 AM

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There are actually some "things" here to "clear" first before we can see some activities. But it remained challenging due to many many factors, including the specs/design.
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post Mar 14 2017, 05:34 PM

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Some change happening. I myelf is going for my own endeavour hence moving out. Haha.
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post Mar 17 2017, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 17 2017, 11:14 AM)
I can.

1. Beside the intersection of the 2 busiest highways in KV
2. Excellent access to LDP
3. Excellent access to Federal Highway

Ermm,  cant think of anything else.
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If not mistaken, the access cannot go to Bandar Sunway. It's mostly going down to Federal Highway.

And people from KL-bound, have to go up to LDP further up to U-turn back.
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post Mar 30 2017, 11:08 PM

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The retail lots are actually meant for sale right from beginning. In fact the frontage ones are sold as 7- and 8-storey enblocs. These were known as the 30 Jewels last time. My personal opinion is that the design of the retail shops have a rather short width frontage.

The rest of the retail shops are those formerly known as "Gourmet Street" and central park shops with alfresco space. Those are meant for sale as well while the developer leaseback some, or rather most, of the units for their leasing team to work on since the vacant possession. Hopefully the many retail tenants will be confirmed soon and come in.

The Level 1 retail carpark, Level mezzanine and Level 2 carparks and two basement level carparks are also sold to Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd as a carpark investment. Total = 1,967 bays.
http://www.phb.com.my/carPark.html

During my time there when they haven't installed the autopay system, PHB outsourced to a third party carpark operator to operate the carpark on their behalf who is charging RM5 per entry. This means most people do not park inside the carpark levels, they just park at visitor carparks. Hopefully when they start the autopay system, the rates will come down accordingly by hourly.

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post Apr 3 2017, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(intoxicat @ Apr 3 2017, 02:05 PM)
They actually wanted to keep the retail mall, see this write-up :-

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/m...-icon-city-mall

The deal was subsequently aborted after a huge fanfare.

How many purchasers have relied on this information to depart with their hard-earned money to invest in the project?

Now, someone tried to paint a positive picture that all is moving in the positive direction with the proposed opening of Secret R, a few convenience stores etc. Made me laugh my S out.
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This joint venture for the proposed mall refers to Phase 2 which is not built or launched at all yet. Not the existing Icon City (Phase 1: 5+2+1 blocks). It's clearly mentioned in the article. There is no mall in Phase 1.

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The retail mall is part of Icon City’s second phase development, which includes a hotel, serviced residences, boutique offices and office towers.

(Phase 1) Launched in July, Icon City’s first phase comprised shop offices, retail lots, small office versatile offices and serviced residences.
There is another 10 acres vacant land next to Icon City earmarked for Phase 2, which now includes the future developer HQ block. My prediction is Phase 2 is planned for 2019 onwards.

Hope there is no confusion between Phase 1 and Phase 2. All these while the retail mall is for Phase 2.

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post Apr 3 2017, 07:22 PM

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Site of Phase 2

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post Apr 4 2017, 09:15 AM

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The central pattana mall is mostly exploring stage. It didn't happen.

Today, a property does not necessarily will do well with a mall, even with a mall that has some footfall.

The secondary market is based on demand and supply factors, needs-based factors, affordability factors and the comparative benchmarking sense, ie where else can I get a property of similar price.
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post Apr 4 2017, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(intoxicat @ Apr 4 2017, 09:42 AM)
I am afraid you miss the issue here, whether the property does well or otherwise in an integrated development is not the issue here.

The issue is, when you have charged a purchaser premium on the selling price due to the future incorporation of a mall, but subsequently renege in delivering this promise.

Perhaps, to make you understand the issue better, BBCC is being sold today with Mitsui Fudosan managing their mall and TRX with Lend Lease managing their mall. Purchasers of either project, have expectations that their properties would be easily rented out due to presence of footfall. How would these purchasers felt, if the mall that was promised is to be deferred indefinitely after VP?
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We were based here at Icon City for a few months and based on our conversations with the many buyers they bought in the property here due to the connectivity and infrastructure (the many access ramps) and the concepts such as the Gourmet Street stratified retail lots (which is not a mall) and the urban park. Many prospect tenants would love to see the park as the other side offers less desirable view or highway. A well known property guru almost bought into the Gourmet Street too.

In fact some didn't even know there was a shopping mall here, unless perhaps the much much later buyers.

In terms of pricing, I feel that it's on the high side judging by the surrounding demographics and the location itself. There are many other issues pertaining to the infrastructure of the roads too (not all ramps will be done in Phase 1). It is also not easily "connected" to Bandar Sunway, if that would happen, then we would have many student prospect tenants.

We have assisted to close a few rental deals here but due to our internal issues I am no longer able to continue my business here.

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post Apr 4 2017, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Apr 4 2017, 10:34 AM)
even you also cabut from here....

is weird when you said is going to well connected to Bandar Sunway as one of the selling point... why people din buy at Bandar Sunway instead of this project when the price is about same?
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I said "not easily connected" to Bandar Sunway... Icon City cannot tap into Bandar Sunway rental market. As you come out to LDP... the traffic flow direction is not good.
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post Apr 4 2017, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Apr 4 2017, 10:37 AM)
conclusion... is failed project....
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Too early to say... but the timing of VP was bad as well.

In fact, most newly completed VPed last 8 months and the next many months will need more time to get some rental cashflow, though cannot cover instalment except very few new VP properties (hint: in KL area).

The market is soft and established matured demograhic areas still the better bet even though rental cannot cover because at least you can have some cashflow, ie. easier to get tenant. The smaller unit builtups will have smaller shortfall gap between rental and instalment.

Today, many newly completed VP is even scarce to get prospect viewing or enquiry.

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post Apr 4 2017, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Takuro82 @ Apr 4 2017, 04:56 PM)
From Icon City go out to LDP, it is direct access to Bandar Sunway. Just go up the bridge and don't turn right to Shah Alam.
Just from Sunway to Icon City, you need to go further and go under flyover in front Western Digital and U-turn back.
Anyway the traffic not so jam at this distance as I observed from last week
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Coming out from Icon City on Jalan SS 8/39 to join LDP, you will miss the bridge as got road barrier.

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Once on the lane below the bridge and keep right, this is how it looks like:

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The traffic flow is leading to Federal Highway Shah Alam bound. Unless you dare to put your car infront there like black car.

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post Apr 12 2017, 02:54 PM

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RM780k for 600 sq ft? wow!

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post Mar 22 2018, 10:33 PM

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The corridor of 4ft is the i-SOVO which is Non HDA product. Each unit door got no foyer area and they dont expect you to move big things in and out of office.

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