Vultures are like Harley Davidson bikes.
Starcraft 2 singleplayer campaign thread, Full of spoilers here
Starcraft 2 singleplayer campaign thread, Full of spoilers here
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Aug 10 2010, 06:09 PM
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Vultures are like Harley Davidson bikes.
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Aug 11 2010, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(nairud @ Aug 10 2010, 10:31 AM) It was in this thread:http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1513204 Somewhere in the middle for kianweic post and then some people reactions after (including mine) RPS article was: RPS "Tosh... How apt" I am fairly disappointed by Blizzard job in the SC2 characters and scripts writing really, it's an accumulation of cliches and the dialogs are pretty weak. I know it's not a RPG but still, I expected better from Blizz and I didnt remember War3 or SC1 to be that bad, in my memory they had bigger twists, character building and "woaw" moments. I enjoyed the SP overall and especially the missions which at least were varied, its more the in-between story which was streched out and hollow in my opinion. Hopefully it's better in HotS or I will be a bit disappointed Blizz. I also agree with Cheeze, DoW2 (Spesh Marheeens arent supposed to be Shakespeares) or CoH (WW2 random joes) managed to put more life in their voice acting without having such charismatic characters as SC2 This post has been edited by Gormaz: Aug 11 2010, 12:13 AM |
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Aug 11 2010, 03:11 AM
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 11 2010, 12:12 AM) It was in this thread: posts deleted. he basically copy pasta that thing, and pasted it twice in this thread. and of course the other thread (hey, copy pasta is still copy pasta)http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1513204 Somewhere in the middle for kianweic post and then some people reactions after (including mine) RPS article was: RPS "Tosh... How apt" I am fairly disappointed by Blizzard job in the SC2 characters and scripts writing really, it's an accumulation of cliches and the dialogs are pretty weak. I know it's not a RPG but still, I expected better from Blizz and I didnt remember War3 or SC1 to be that bad, in my memory they had bigger twists, character building and "woaw" moments. I enjoyed the SP overall and especially the missions which at least were varied, its more the in-between story which was streched out and hollow in my opinion. Hopefully it's better in HotS or I will be a bit disappointed Blizz. I also agree with Cheeze, DoW2 (Spesh Marheeens arent supposed to be Shakespeares) or CoH (WW2 random joes) managed to put more life in their voice acting without having such charismatic characters as SC2 |
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Aug 11 2010, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 11 2010, 12:12 AM) I also agree with Cheeze, DoW2 (Spesh Marheeens arent supposed to be Shakespeares) or CoH (WW2 random joes) managed to put more life in their voice acting without having such charismatic characters as SC2 I think they just need to get rid of the current voice actors and whoever who wrote the lines for the characters. The current cast is awful and the characters feel plain and lifeless. Kerrigan reminds me of EDI from ME2,except now,she's the hostile version. Yeah, it's the same actress, but i remembered she sounded different in C&C3.If EA still sucks in the fanboy's eyes, at least EA knows how to make their game's sound effects fantastic. Blizzard on the other hand, clearly has lost some of it's charm from their older games. SC1 sounds awesome,even back in the days with those crappy build in speakers. Even till now, i think SC1 have some really memorable sounds and speech lines like "This is not Warcraft in space" by Artanis. SC2's sound is no where near even to games like C&C3 or DoW. At least a Space Marine sounds convincingly like an overzealous super soldier in DoW, or NOD's Flame Tank guy sounds like crazy guy but SC2's zealot sounds like some generic alien now as the bass-like sound effect isnt there now. Still, no one would really care in the long run if they are playing SC2 competitively, but still, it does ruin the immersion for those who want to enjoy the SP. This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 11 2010, 07:36 AM |
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Aug 11 2010, 08:40 AM
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@Quazacolt: it's not deleted, it's in the thread I linked
@Cheese: yep, I think the graphics guys should get a raise done with the salaries of the script writers. The menus and interface (like in Hyperion) are very well done and lots of small details. But script writing was awful and full of one-liner. It's not SupCom2 bad but it's a bit far from what I expected from Blizz And quite funny your mention of Kerrigan being an evil EDI, true she was quite badly used in mostly 1-2 lines evil sentence "You can't stop me" "You will all die" "Nao I kill j00!" |
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Aug 11 2010, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 11 2010, 08:40 AM) @Quazacolt: it's not deleted, it's in the thread I linked i was referring the posts here.@Cheese: yep, I think the graphics guys should get a raise done with the salaries of the script writers. The menus and interface (like in Hyperion) are very well done and lots of small details. But script writing was awful and full of one-liner. It's not SupCom2 bad but it's a bit far from what I expected from Blizz And quite funny your mention of Kerrigan being an evil EDI, true she was quite badly used in mostly 1-2 lines evil sentence "You can't stop me" "You will all die" "Nao I kill j00!" |
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Aug 11 2010, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 11 2010, 08:40 AM) @Cheese: yep, I think the graphics guys should get a raise done with the salaries of the script writers. I remembered there was so much more for the campaign back then. Seems like they have cut out heaps of it for some reason, like some sort of mini game in the armory. Still, it's not bad, but it does feel underwhelming for a high profile long development game.The menus and interface (like in Hyperion) are very well done and lots of small details. But script writing was awful and full of one-liner. It's not SupCom2 bad but it's a bit far from what I expected from Blizz And quite funny your mention of Kerrigan being an evil EDI, true she was quite badly used in mostly 1-2 lines evil sentence "You can't stop me" "You will all die" "Nao I kill j00!" Kerrigan is just full of cliche in SC2. Even EDI is so much more funny than Kerrigan in SC2. I think it's almost as bad as Sup Com 2, SC2 also tried too hard to be funny. |
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Aug 11 2010, 11:08 AM
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"I love seeing humans on their knees." <beat> "It was a joke."
lulz. EDI > Kerrigan anyday. |
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Aug 11 2010, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 11 2010, 07:36 AM) I think they just need to get rid of the current voice actors and whoever who wrote the lines for the characters. The current cast is awful and the characters feel plain and lifeless. Kerrigan reminds me of EDI from ME2,except now,she's the hostile version. Yeah, it's the same actress, but i remembered she sounded different in C&C3. i played with headphone through the way, the sound effects are pretty much SC1. If EA still sucks in the fanboy's eyes, at least EA knows how to make their game's sound effects fantastic. Blizzard on the other hand, clearly has lost some of it's charm from their older games. SC1 sounds awesome,even back in the days with those crappy build in speakers. Even till now, i think SC1 have some really memorable sounds and speech lines like "This is not Warcraft in space" by Artanis. SC2's sound is no where near even to games like C&C3 or DoW. At least a Space Marine sounds convincingly like an overzealous super soldier in DoW, or NOD's Flame Tank guy sounds like crazy guy but SC2's zealot sounds like some generic alien now as the bass-like sound effect isnt there now. Still, no one would really care in the long run if they are playing SC2 competitively, but still, it does ruin the immersion for those who want to enjoy the SP. As to the actors behind the voices, the one i didn't like the most was the high pitched nassal-problem voice of that scientist. i'm not picky on sound-effects, i think overall SC2's sound effects were still good, though just using pretty much the previous one. frankly I'm not expecting something so outstanding cos it is the continuation of SC. i thought the mission things were great but i find it annoying that i had to replay the campaign just to play Lost Viking. lastly, shouldn't this conversation be on the other thread about what we didn't like about SC2? Added on August 11, 2010, 11:16 ambtw the medic's voice is sexy. |
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Aug 11 2010, 11:38 AM
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im stuck at the great train robbery
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Aug 11 2010, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 11 2010, 11:16 AM) i played with headphone through the way, the sound effects are pretty much SC1. i played with 5.1 surround sound, the voice and cinematics are very, well, movie like. full surround sound. so yeah, epic for me LOLAs to the actors behind the voices, the one i didn't like the most was the high pitched nassal-problem voice of that scientist. i'm not picky on sound-effects, i think overall SC2's sound effects were still good, though just using pretty much the previous one. frankly I'm not expecting something so outstanding cos it is the continuation of SC. i thought the mission things were great but i find it annoying that i had to replay the campaign just to play Lost Viking. lastly, shouldn't this conversation be on the other thread about what we didn't like about SC2? Added on August 11, 2010, 11:16 ambtw the medic's voice is sexy. and yeah, well said. btw, why dont you move the i hate sc2 thread to the sub forum? so ALL the sc2 hate can be focused on 1 spot, and they can have fun with themselves instead of every thread getting derailed with their petty hatred Added on August 11, 2010, 11:45 am QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Aug 11 2010, 11:38 AM) spam diamond backsThis post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 11 2010, 11:45 AM |
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Aug 11 2010, 11:48 AM
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i cannot go full surround or anything la, cos hor........... late night gonna kacau everyone else with my boom boom bash we need help blabalbala........
great train robbery mission was fun. hard mode wasn't that difficult once you have enough DB. play normal mode then i go wipe out enemy base for lulz. |
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Aug 11 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 11 2010, 11:48 AM) i cannot go full surround or anything la, cos hor........... late night gonna kacau everyone else with my boom boom bash we need help blabalbala........ im playing on brutal btw....my diamondbacks got wiped out by the escorts... great train robbery mission was fun. hard mode wasn't that difficult once you have enough DB. play normal mode then i go wipe out enemy base for lulz. i can barely finish welcome to the forest, wasnt expecting brutal to be this hard This post has been edited by styrwr91: Aug 11 2010, 12:07 PM |
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Aug 11 2010, 12:07 PM
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ahh brutal then i donno liao. i haven't try. maybe should consider spamming marines instead.
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Aug 11 2010, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 11 2010, 11:16 AM) i played with headphone through the way, the sound effects are pretty much SC1. I played with head phones too, and it's the same one i used for any other games i play.As to the actors behind the voices, the one i didn't like the most was the high pitched nassal-problem voice of that scientist. i'm not picky on sound-effects, i think overall SC2's sound effects were still good, though just using pretty much the previous one. frankly I'm not expecting something so outstanding cos it is the continuation of SC. i thought the mission things were great but i find it annoying that i had to replay the campaign just to play Lost Viking. lastly, shouldn't this conversation be on the other thread about what we didn't like about SC2? Added on August 11, 2010, 11:16 ambtw the medic's voice is sexy. Im not complaining about some of the old voices are there, it's just that, it lacks of a unique feel in it with some of the new ones. Im happy to heard Probe's original sound in the game, but units like Zealot or HT's new lines does feel a bit lacking compared to original. Especially HT. Overlord's new sound is terrible too, with a guy moaning sound, compared to the original which is great. The lines are bland and mostly are just one liners in the campaign. The explosion sound effects or any other sound effects, are decent. Some of the sounds like the new Siege Tank sound, i think it's great. Still, the sounds in SC2 is no where close to a CoH quality or BFBC2's bass overdone sound effects. SC2's sounds feels like there is not enough bass. The graphics is outstanding, i dont see why the sound effects shouldnt get a huge improvement, as sound is still a part of the immersion of the game. I think, it's more like Blizzard is indeed weak in the sound department, after Starcraft or Diablo. Or Blizzard's competitor have just outdone them by far. |
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Aug 11 2010, 12:31 PM
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the lines were stupid for the most part.
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Aug 11 2010, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 11 2010, 12:27 PM) I played with head phones too, and it's the same one i used for any other games i play. i personally think its too much, but hey, maybe its the G500 with the x-fi titaniumsIm not complaining about some of the old voices are there, it's just that, it lacks of a unique feel in it with some of the new ones. Im happy to heard Probe's original sound in the game, but units like Zealot or HT's new lines does feel a bit lacking compared to original. Especially HT. Overlord's new sound is terrible too, with a guy moaning sound, compared to the original which is great. The lines are bland and mostly are just one liners in the campaign. The explosion sound effects or any other sound effects, are decent. Some of the sounds like the new Siege Tank sound, i think it's great. Still, the sounds in SC2 is no where close to a CoH quality or BFBC2's bass overdone sound effects. SC2's sounds feels like there is not enough bass. The graphics is outstanding, i dont see why the sound effects shouldnt get a huge improvement, as sound is still a part of the immersion of the game. I think, it's more like Blizzard is indeed weak in the sound department, after Starcraft or Diablo. Or Blizzard's competitor have just outdone them by far. |
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Aug 11 2010, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2010, 11:45 AM) and yeah, well said. btw, why dont you move the i hate sc2 thread to the sub forum? so ALL the sc2 hate can be focused on 1 spot, and they can have fun with themselves instead of every thread getting derailed with their petty hatred It's not petty hate really, it's just some complaints and discussion.Added on August 11, 2010, 11:45 am spam diamond backs I liked the game overall so I am no hater. Didnt think it was a bother to others to have people discussing |
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Aug 11 2010, 01:05 PM
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Ciritising doesnt mean one hates the game.
If i hate the game, why the hell im doing here? |
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Aug 11 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 11 2010, 01:01 PM) It's not petty hate really, it's just some complaints and discussion. if it was just merely complaints and discussion here and there pertaining to the thread title, that is absolutely fine. however, look around, and look at other threads around you, and the snowballing result that spawned more "criticizing" (or as i would prefer it, hating) threads.I liked the game overall so I am no hater. Didnt think it was a bother to others to have people discussing if its just one person's problem/fault/opinion (namely mine right here) then obviously it wouldn't be an issue to the rest of the forumers. however, even goldfries himself posted a notion against it and there are other forumers not just me in the same agreement. Added on August 11, 2010, 2:34 pm QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 11 2010, 01:05 PM) yeah why are you doing here anyways? if you don't hate sc2, wouldn't it be better if you just play sc2 instead of beating that dead horse over and over again?This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 11 2010, 02:34 PM |
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