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william_lim
post Dec 6 2010, 02:58 PM

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Due to Yes offers pay as u use, all of the P2P heavy downloader will not suitable for this Package!

Even got so many subscribers, Yes base station still can maintain to very fast speed to user. Let us see after a few months!
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post Dec 6 2010, 09:28 PM

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so my YES 4g turn up to NO 4g. the reception is so bad, only 1 bar and sometime none. have to get back to streamyx 365kps. damn, wasted RM179 for GO today.Attached Image
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post Dec 6 2010, 09:40 PM

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why not walk around find the best signal?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Dec 6 2010, 09:40 PM)
why not walk around find the best signal?
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even outside my house (car porch), i just able to get 2 bars max and keep disconnect. simply can't replace TM Screamyx in this area.
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Not saying what YTL's advertising says is true, but I think Malaysians like to jump the gun and make a lot of comments about things without facts to back it up. Was just reading the news, found this: Verizon's price for their 5-12Mbps up 2-5Mbps down LTE network (I'm just waiting for those idiots who called LTE 4G to now say 12Mbps isn't 4G) is US$50 per 5GB. YTL's 5GB is cheaper at RM105, at around the same speeds, plus it has voice in the same plan which Verizon doesn't have.

I remember so many people complaining about RM30 per GB, but it looks like the price isn't that far off? And I'll just wait for the posts saying that Verizon's LTE isn't 4G? laugh.gif

From what I understand from my techie friend, we'll never get 100Mbps over the air in Malaysia for the next 5 years at least. When the government releases LTE spectrum in 2013, it'll take around 2 years to build the LTE network, and for a telco to overhaul its existing 3G backend to go full IP-based 4G (like what YTL did) its like a 4-5 year project. By then it depends whether YTL gets enough ROI from their current network to compete and switch to WiMAX2 (or migrate to LTE) or not. So, plus another few years. Well, that's his guess anyway.


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Is there an online portal for u to track your usages? Also has anyone tried this in penang island? Is the signal ok?
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post Dec 6 2010, 11:00 PM

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Will YTL’s ‘Yes’ affect Green Packet?
Written by Sam Koh
Monday, 06 December 2010 10:49

KUALA LUMPUR: When a new player enters a market, the ground moves. More so when the new entrant is a deep-pocketed giant like YTL Corp Bhd, backed by one of Malaysia’s richest tycoons, Tan Sri Francis Yeoh.

It comes as little surprise then that the recent entry of YTL Communications Bhd into the WiMAX market has affected investor confidence in Green Packet Bhd, the parent company of the country’s first WiMAX operator, P1. But will the landscape change? Is this akin to David versus Goliath, although the David in this case — Green Packet — had a first mover advantage?
Fears of YTL’s entry adversely affecting Green Packet has sent the latter’s shares slumping.


Green Packet, led by CEO Puan Chan Cheong (left), is feeling the heat after the entry of YTL Comms, backed by Yeoh’s YTL Corp, into the WiMAX domain. Its stock has fallen to close at 79.5 sen last Friday.

Green Packet’s shares traded within a range of 90 sen to RM1.03 from July until early November, before falling since the middle of last month to 79.5 sen last Friday, just off a 12-month low of 78 sen. That’s nearly half of its 52-week high of RM1.52 set in January.

To be sure, the recent share price drop also coincides with weakness in the broader market as investors take money off the table amid rising uncertainty in the global economy due to the sovereign debt crisis in the eurozone and geopolitical risks on the Korean peninsula.

Still, it would appear that sentiment for the stock was affected, at least in part, by the launch of YTL Comms’ Yes mobile broadband-cum-voice service on Nov 19. This is not surprising since YTL Comms operates on the same platform as P1 and, thus,
is naturally viewed as a close competitor. And it is a formidable one at that with its deep pockets.

Case in point, although late to the market, YTL Comms has been impressive with the pace of its network rollout, achieving 65% population coverage right off the bat with some 1,500 base station sites installed over the course of the year. The company claims to have spent RM2.5 billion in total capital expenditure to-date and plans to add another 1,000 sites to bring coverage up to 80% by end-2011.

By comparison, P1 has paced its rollout in lockstep with the growth of its subscriber base. As at end-September — two years and three months after its commercial launch — the company had 815 sites after spending a total of RM534 million since its launch. It is targeting to hit 1,050 sites by the end of this year. That would bring its coverage to just about 45% of the population.
Meanwhile P1 has said it intends to spend another RM500 million in capital expenditure on an additional 1,500 sites, which will expand its coverage to 65% by 2012.

Having said that, YTL Comms’ pricing strategy suggests that it is targeting a different market segment than P1.

Yes is offering a flat rate of nine sen for either a minute of voice call, an SMS or 3Mb of data. This pay-as-you-use pricing model is ideal for casual surfers and, in particular, the mobile broadband market segment where the average data consumption is estimated at roughly 2Gb to 3Gb per month.

P1’s primary target market, on the other hand, is the fixed-broadband segment — currently accounting for an estimated 90% of its subscriber base — where users are much more data intensive.
The average data consumption is estimated at more than 10Gb per month. YTL Comms may not be a cost-effective competitor in the fixed-broadband market, now dominated by Telekom Malaysia’s Streamyx and P1. For instance, based on YTL Comms’ rates, 10Gb of data will cost some RM210 compared with P1’s RM99 per month package that comes with 20Gb of fair usage, albeit at a much slower connection speed.

Yes a strong mobile
broadband competitor
The mobile broadband segment is a rapidly growing market. To achieve true mobility, wide coverage is required. As such, the main players at present are the cellular operators, who have their GPRS/EDGE networks to fall back on outside of 3G coverage areas.

Celcom, Maxis and DiGi collectively added some 672,000 new mobile broadband subscribers in the first nine months of this year, compared with less than 260,000 new subscribers for fixed broadband over the same period. Currently, there are roughly 1.6 million mobile broadband subscribers in the country.

Growth in this market segment is expected to continue at a rapid clip for the foreseeable future, driven by rising affordability and ownership of laptops and netbooks, coupled with the need for connectivity on the go. Most recently, the success of Apple’s iPad has further reinvigorated consumer demand for the tablets market segment.

Like the cellular operators, YTL Comms offers the Yes Go USB dongle for users to connect to its network. In addition, it also sells the Yes Huddle, a Mi-Fi wireless router that connects up to five devices. Its pay-as-you-use pricing is attractive for data usage of up to roughly 3Gb, which is the average mobile broadband data consumption.

Plus, YTL Comms’ WiMAX network boasts three to five times the speed of 3G networks operated by all the cellular players. Anecdotal evidence in the early days supports this claim, although it remains to be seen if the high speeds can be maintained as the number of users on its network grows.

P1 too has set its sights on the mobile broadband market. But with comparatively low network coverage, it has yet to make a major push in this direction — although this would certainly happen over the next year or two. The company has the launch of a Mi-Fi device slated in 1Q2011 and is at present, bundling its portable W1GGY modem with its home broadband packages.

Elsewhere, although YTL Comms is offering very attractive voice and SMS rates complete with a 018-prefix, take-up rates may not be high in the near to medium term due to the lack of WiMAX handsets.

For a start, it will be selling the Yes Buzz handset, manufactured by Samsung, later this month and plans to introduce a smartphone sometime next year. But the lack of choice will certainly be a hindrance. User migration for voice services has also been very sticky, even with the introduction of mobile number portability.

P1 sticking to 280,000 subscribers target by end-2010
Despite the entry of Yes into the market, P1 remains confident, with just one more month to go, that it will hit the target subscriber base of 280,000 by the end of the year.

New sign-ups in 4Q2010 have been boosted by its new marketing campaign, which was launched in late October. Indeed, anecdotal evidence shows that subscriber acquisitions, which had dropped in the run-up to the Yes launch, picked up pace again over the past week.

At this pace, Green Packet has said it believes it is on track to achieve operating break-even by 1Q2011. The company has been registering lower earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (Ebitda) losses for the past three consecutive quarters on the back of a growing subscriber base and revenue contribution. Average revenue per user is holding steady at about RM80 to RM81 per month.

To be sure, P1 is still grappling with its fair share of problems with network congestion. But market observers are optimistic it will be able to hold its own in the increasingly competitive broadband market. The ability to bundle fixed and mobile broadband services at an attractive cost per megabit is a strong advantage, particularly once the company expands its coverage area to 65% of the population by 2012.

Separately, the company’s software and solutions business has been doing well on the back of rising worldwide sales for its licences and “Customer Premise Equipment” (CPE). The company has sold nearly as many CPE in the first nine months of this year — with sales of over 231,000 units — as the whole of 2009. It has orders in hand for over 530,000 units. The company is also upbeat on the progress made in the lucrative US software market, which it hopes will come to fruition next year.

Rising contributions from the software and solutions arm will help bolster the company’s bottom line.

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post Dec 7 2010, 03:42 AM

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see what inside yes go usb modem...

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i saw had two port inside the modem, maybe it can attach to high gain antenna?

some antenna info

http://www.rfwel.com/forums/content.php?2-...d-cell-boundary

**Warning, open the modem may spoiled your modem warranty!!

This post has been edited by jeremy05: Dec 7 2010, 02:47 PM
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post Dec 7 2010, 04:08 AM

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If use usb dongle...it doen't has a built-in hardware firewall..
You rely on Windows software firewall only...not very safe.
Hacker/attacker will be able to send malware/trojan to your pc/laptop and take over your pc/laptop and do what ever he like.
(Microsoft's article: http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/botnet.aspx )

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post Dec 7 2010, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(tanhks @ Dec 7 2010, 04:08 AM)
If use usb dongle...it doen't has a built-in hardware firewall..
You rely on Windows software firewall only...not very safe.
Hacker/attacker will be able to send malware/trojan to your pc/laptop and take over your pc/laptop and do what ever he like.
http://antivirus.about.com/od/whatisavirus/a/zombiepc.htm
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agree that, even 3g usb modem, or wifi, also have this problems... tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Dec 7 2010, 04:16 AM)
agree that, even 3g usb modem, or wifi, also have this problems... tongue.gif
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For 3G USB modem, you can use a 3G router and connect to a hardware firewall.
This can imporove security. But i don't see is there a way to connect the Wimax dongle to a hardware firewall.

Example of a good firewall:
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post Dec 7 2010, 04:26 AM

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QUOTE(tanhks @ Dec 7 2010, 04:22 AM)
For 3G USB modem, you can use a 3G router and connect to a hardware firewall.
This can imporove security. But i don't see is there  a way to connect the Wimax dongle to a hardware firewall.

Example of a good firewall:
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you are right, currently really no such device can plug in 4g usb modem, but this is not the important part of security, is your data over air, capture by others, it is very dangerous, they can get your credit card info and other important data, so far i didnt see any security in wireless(3g,wifi,4g,wimax)...
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After you have spend RM30 in a month, "Pay as you surf" is true.
Say Yes if you are using about 1gb a month.
Say Yes if you want to spend at least RM30 per month (to keep account active).
Say Yes if someone is paying for you.
Say Yes if you want to use the latest product.
Say No if you watch streaming video in the internet.
Say No if you play games in the internet.
Say No if you are a online gamer.
Say No if you are a downloader.
Say No if you are a webmaster or forum administrator.
Say No if you are a blogger.
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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Dec 7 2010, 03:42 AM)
see what inside yes go usb modem...

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


i saw had two port inside the modem, maybe it can attach to high gain antenna?

some antenna info

http://www.rfwel.com/forums/content.php?2-...d-cell-boundary
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wow.. how to connect to the external port? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(en_mizi @ Dec 6 2010, 09:28 PM)
so my YES 4g turn up to NO 4g. the reception is so bad, only 1 bar and sometime none. have to get back to streamyx 365kps. damn, wasted RM179 for GO today.Attached Image
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RM179? I thought it is only RM149 (RM99+RM50)

Can you return it to them to ask for a refund since it is not up to par?
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QUOTE(elblink @ Dec 7 2010, 10:43 AM)
RM179? I thought it is only RM149 (RM99+RM50)

Can you return it to them to ask for a refund since it is not up to par?
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He could pay another RM 30 for topup. I also paid that amount for new YES ID. By the way I also have one pre-registered YES ID which were activated by YES automatically. So, right now I have 2 accounts that have free 10 GB... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Dec 7 2010, 04:26 AM)
you are right, currently really no such device can plug in 4g usb modem, but this is not the important part of security, is your data over air, capture by others, it is very dangerous, they can get your credit card info and other important data, so far i didnt see any security in wireless(3g,wifi,4g,wimax)...
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omg...you miss-understand what i am talking about.
the data send/receive using https:// are secure even over the air.

What i means are those Malware/Trojan infection comming to your pc/laptop easily if your laptop/pc is not protected by a hardware firewall.
"Trojans have the same right on the system as does the logged in user. In other words, if the user can, the Trojan can. This includes deleting or modifying files, installing other software, uninstalling software, or sending sensitive password and login information to a remote attacker."
copied from: http://antivirus.about.com/od/whatisavirus/a/zombiepc.htm

Microsoft's article: http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/botnet.aspx

This post has been edited by tanhks: Feb 14 2011, 04:44 AM
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quick question, i would like to buy de wifi dongle to share de wifi point at home.....basically, i own a pc (surfing, check mail, msn, fb), 2 notebk, iphone, ipad also for surfing...mayb plus ps3 to play game...hw much it will be cost per month???? hw much of data will it need?

i jus need an estimation cost incur per month...appreciate any user can share ur usage per month...tq
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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Dec 7 2010, 04:26 AM)
you are right, currently really no such device can plug in 4g usb modem, but this is not the important part of security, is your data over air, capture by others, it is very dangerous, they can get your credit card info and other important data, so far i didnt see any security in wireless(3g,wifi,4g,wimax)...
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I'm betting both of you don't use 3G on your phone, since there is no 'firewall' on your phone. Can I also assume you never use public Wifi like Starbucks? Sigh, you probably don't realize that your phone is telling the whole world where you are right now, and that SMS is also unencrypted and can be sniffed with a RM50 antenna box.

Malaysia has a lot of idiots.
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:02 PM

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i think i need to sell my YES GO usb dongle.
it's too unstable around my house, frequent disconnection sometimes.

PM me if you're interested to buy.

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