Another one of sales gimmicks. 4G??? not. Another Wimax? Yes.

Speedtest .... meaningless !!!!!
Definately good speeds now 'cause minimum subscribers.
Wait at least next 6 months.

But lets see how good ...

Threat was detected an hour after the launch. Yes website was allegedly targeted by malicious hackers and received “as many as 300,000 hits a second”. According to YTL’s CEO Wing K. Lee: “On top of legitimate customer traffic, we also experienced a series of hostile attacks. As a result, we had to take tedious steps of filtering individual blocks of IP addresses to stop the malicious attacks.”

Reference:
http://www.greyreview.com/2010/11/25/yes-4...l-explanations/

First, i-Burst 4G !!!!!!!!
Next, P1 Wimax 4G !!!!!!!!

Follows,
FASTEST BROADBAND SERVICE IN MALAYSIA
~U MOBILE First to Deploy 42 Mbps Mobile Broadband Network~
Kuala Lumpur, 25 October 2010 – U Mobile today announced that they are taking the first steps to deploy their 42Mbps Mobile Broadband network. Capable of delivering online connection speeds of up to 42 Mb per second, this is deemed the fastest broadband to date in Malaysia and U Mobile is the first to deploy it.
The Minister of Information, Communication and Culture, YB Dato’ Seri Utama Dr. Rais Yatim, together with YBhg Tan Sri Dato’ Seri Vincent Tan Chee Yioun, Chairman of U Mobile Sdn Bhd and Dr Kaizad Heerjee, Chief Executive Officer of U Mobile Sdn Bhd were present to celebrate this milestone.
U Mobile will begin to deploy Dual-Cell HSPA+ (High-Speed Packet Access) connections that allow the network to send and receive wireless data using two channels simultaneously to achieve download speeds of up to 42Mbps. The first setup point will be in Berjaya Times Square. This will be followed by the commercial deployment of the service within Klang Valley starting with Subang Jaya and Sunway area and followed by Penang and Johor by end of the year.

Now .... Yes 4G !!!!!!

Misleading everyone defination of 4G

Reference WIKI
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

In telephony, 4G is the fourth generation of cellular wireless standards. It is a successor to 3G and 2G families of standards. A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based solution where facilities such as ultra-broadband (Giga-bit speed such as 1000+ MiB/s) Internet access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users.
4G is being developed to accommodate the quality of service (QoS) and rate requirements set by further development of existing 3G applications like mobile broadband access, Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS), video chat, mobile TV, but also new services like HDTV. 4G may allow roaming with wireless local area networks, and may interact with digital video broadcasting systems.
The 4G working group[clarification needed] has defined the following as objectives of the 4G wireless communication standard:
Flexible channel bandwidth, between 5 and 20 MHz, optionally up to 40 MHz.
A nominal data rate of 100 Mbit/s while the client physically moves at high speeds relative to the station, and 1 Gbit/s while client and station are in relatively fixed positions as defined by the ITU-R,
A data rate of at least 100 Mbit/s between any two points in the world,
Peak link spectral efficiency of 15 bit/s/Hz in the downlink, and 6.75 bit/s/Hz in the uplink (meaning that 1 Gbit/s in the downlink should be possible over less than 67 MHz bandwidth)
System spectral efficiency of up to 3 bit/s/Hz/cell in the downlink and 2.25 bit/s/Hz/cell for indoor usage.
Smooth handoff across heterogeneous networks,
Seamless connectivity and global roaming across multiple networks,
High quality of service for next generation multimedia support (real time audio, high speed data, HDTV video content, mobile TV, etc.)
Interoperability with existing wireless standards,
An all IP, packet switched network.
Femtocells (home nodes connected to fixed Internet broadband infrastructure)

Anyway, to all forum users, bear in mind latency times for any wireless broadband sucks. Online gaming always lag ... lag .. & lag.

BT ..... ? Virtually impossible ...

HTTP Downloading ...... ? Downloads Capped ...

My guess is no matter how TM sucks....

Thumbs Up for TM Streamyx & Unifi.

Virtually, 24/7 minimum 70% of speeds majority users.

So my fellow forumers, for you to decide.

1) YTL appears to have more than enough bandwidth in place to handle growth - how much I won't say, but it is a very respectable amount
2) Online gaming lag - I get a reasonable ~60ms average at home... and while this isn't optimum for FPS gaming, it is pretty good for wireless. Either way, you are comparing fixed line latency to wireless latency... not entirely sure why.
3) BT impossible - Are you sure? Over the past few days I've downloaded Gentoo and FreeBSD ISOs via torrent at 1.2MB/sec. I must be Tom Cruise... where's Maggie Q?
4) HTTP downloading capped - I pulled tar.gz files from servers in Luxemborg and Malaysia... both at 1.8MB/sec. Yup, it's definitely capped... at about 15Mbps.

I have no sympathy for YTL when it comes to the flames they received for using 4G, but your baseless accusations are a bit much.

then if not called 4G most normal users will go meh, just another internet provider and will not test it

i don't care is it 4g or 5g, at least most people will amazing, finally mobile high speed bb is born in malaysia, right?

compare an apple with orange? better compare to our neighbour singapore, people now using 100mbps, even their bb is far late develop than malaysia, malaysia boleh?

Wait at least next 6 months? later unifi user increase, i am sure they will cap you!! it will fall back to streamxy speed, no matter how many bandwidth you have, if every1 going bt, sure die...

yeah I don't care it's 4g or what.. as long my speed is fast and I am amazed with it

I would not be surprised at all why their website had been hacked. This is very obvious. Because YES definitely a threat to other ISPs. So, nothing much for that.

Regarding on the 4G thingy, I think it's just a normal business tactics whereby the companies tends to follow the competitors strategies. I don't think it's wrong. It's just a question of ethical or unethical on your perception of view.

By the way, we'll never ask you to play online gaming with YES. As well all know, the Wireless Broadband in Malaysia are totally even worst compared to YES. So this is not a question as well.

How in the world you can say thumbs up for Streamyx and Unifi on the first place? Is it because for being generous to let the users downloading non stop until the situation came worst like now? The problem is getting worst, when they rolled up Unifi. I would like to subscribe to 20Mbps, but no coverage and yet they capped my 4Mbps. What options do I have then? At least YES, when they say 65%, even in kitchen with 1 bar signals to reach 3Mbps

for your reference, buddy

http://www.soyacincau.com/tag/ytl-yes/

a real speed test of ytl network.

This post has been edited by jeremy05: Dec 5 2010, 01:01 PM

Wow if U mobile able to provide higher speed and unlimited data (although FUP = 5GB)
than we definitely will choose U mobile
since we already purchase an expensive smartphone and can continue use the broadband on our smartphone.

How about those staying in apartments? Up to how many floors it will work?

How is the speed like? signal strength?

Considering getting the Go tomorrow.

i stay in 14th floor and it works. the signal range from 1-4 bar with speed from 2-10 dload upload 400-2.2

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Added on December 5, 2010, 2:11 pmYa singapore got 100 mbps wait even up to 200 mbps but its only for local Singapore sites (server hosted in Singapore) international sites are capped at 15-25 mbps

This post has been edited by ryan18: Dec 5 2010, 02:11 PM

What is BT? I am still learning. Hope some Sifu can help.

TQ

I wanna ask about the free 10gb data. let's say if I subscribe now, I can have free 10gb data, if i only use 5gb till 19 Dec, do I still have the remaining 5gb data after 19Dec? Or I only can use for free until 19Dec and start charging on 20Dec?

Thanks Ryan18.
As long as it is much more stable than celcom bb it is good enough.


Hi bryanyeo,
From what the sales person told me,
The free 10GB will be burned on 19 Dec regardless how many GB you used.
The charging starts from the date you sign up.
On 20th you need to have RM30 in your account for YES to deduct the compulsory monthly RM30.



This post has been edited by elblink: Dec 5 2010, 09:03 PM

Well, after some hesitancy, I decided to sign up for Yes. A few things I've realised:

Yes plan is something really different.
After talking to their sales staff, and watching their new videos on Youtube, it really is different from other telco plans. I've had years paying for Streamyx, mobile data, and voice for my phone. What I didn't realise is if I didn't use up to the maximum, I burn a lot of money. Paying RM66+68+50-70 bucks for Streamyx + Digi Discovery + phone calls per month, when I obviously don't use GBs of data.... and I can't transfer money from 1 plan to another (if I don't use Digi Discovery 3GB, I can't use that money for voice/streamyx right?).

The RM30 min usage (not min top-up like some mistaken people are saying) kinds sucks if I go overseas for a week or two (for my work), but I think once I get a Yes phone my total bill per month will go down by a lot. I'll see when the HTC phone comes out and I shift to Yes, if that's true or not, but calculation now is I'll save.

The network is really fast.
YTL really started my interest in mobile wireless, I read up a lot. Like people say LTE in Sweden is 59.1Mbps fast (link here), but I realised they have 40Mhz of spectrum so obviously they can go fast (in Malaysia only 20Mhz is allocated). Wireless speed depends on how much air your company owns to transmit signals, so my initial experience of 5-10Mbps (based on location) is pretty much as close to the best it can be, which is impressive.

At first I followed the other people and thought "ok, lets wait for 6 months then we'll see". But then I read all the technical stuff (like this here) and realised that we've been served with bad 3G and Streamyx for too long that we don't know what's good anymore. P1 has officially said that their average usage is 10GB/month (link here) so I guess WiMAX really can handle that kind of capacity.

They're really trying.
I remember the time when I just stopped complaining. It was after I moved to where I'm staying now and Streamyx became so bad I just stopped using it. When I got 3G, ok fine I can use the internet but it's slow, I didn't even bother complaining. This is one of the few telcos in Malaysia I've seen who looks like they're genuinely worried about how their service is perceived. Sure, their website isn't fully functioning and they're getting a lot of complaints, but I think only P1 and Digi have opened up the channels to let people shoot them.

This Yes Life thing is the killer app.
At first I didn't know what this Yes Life thing is about. After hearing the explanation and listening to the new Youtube about it I finally realised: this is the killer app. No more IDD. Wow. The fact that I can call and receive calls when I am overseas working at local rates is enough reason to subscribe. Right now it's just via PCs, but when their Andriod phone comes out Yes Life will definitely be on it. And their partnership with Apple so far tells me an Apple app isn't that far away either. I'm thinking of getting their HTC phone, since their CEO confirmed that it will have WiMAX + Wifi + SIM, it becomes the best roaming device. As long as I have Wifi, I'm in Malaysia.

So far, I think YTL got good long term prospects if they keep improving. I can only see their 9 sen plan go downwards, one day maybe to 9 sen/9MB-3 min-9 sms? They have to go down that route when the TV thing comes in next year, as HD TV is a few GB per movie. And then those who are on their plan will say goodbye to other telcos.

I've got a Huddle, it's been good so far. Just wanted to add my 10 cents worth.

I'm interested to know how much are their IDD calls to landlines in other countries.

Will they also be 9 cents/min?

thansk for sharing

i ask u all guys this la
yes offers pay as u use. if u lag or dl slow.. they make less revenue. so think b4 u post.. if yes base their revenue on dl, they would want to give u all good speed so they can make more money. please don assume first

Something that they did right IMO is not forcing their subscribers into a long contract eg 24 months.

So if you're unhappy with the service because it starts slowing down after a few months, you're free to walk away without penalty.

i do agree with u, bro. masuk akal... hehehe

Is that a reason to say anything you want in your ads?

- Come to my restaurant, Jamie Oliver said it's the best food he ever tasted.

- Fly my airline, Tony Fernandes said it's so great he is going to close AirAsia.

- Drive my new Proton car, it has a Maserati engine and comes with free Blaupunkt stereo.

There is truth and there is deception. Just because telling a lie may increase customer interest, does not make it okay to do so.

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Added on December 6, 2010, 2:19 pmTo some countries, yes. Amazing how companies can get away with ripoff prices like that, just due to customer ignorance. The competition is charging RM0.03 to the same destinations.

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Added on December 6, 2010, 2:22 pmIn the early days P1 delivered great speed too. I got everything they offered - 2400kbps on the desktop modem, 5mbps plus on the wiggy.

But within months it became a disaster area - barely any signal and even when there was one, the speed was pathetic.

I see no particular reason to believe that Yes will go any differently. The best way to predict the future is to learn from the past.

This post has been edited by rajulkabir: Dec 6 2010, 02:22 PM