mastering89: I'd prefer the NEX-VG10 with Sony E 16mm F2.8 and VCL-ECF1 because it provides autofocus.
signither: The answer to Sony's new pricing scheme is in DPReview.
Now, instead of spoonfeeding (though I know you will get it) I want to see what's the standard of math here. (shootkk and lwliam are disqualified from revealing the formulas/answers, too!)
Given that:
Old Pricing
A lens that used to be USD799 in USA will cost 799 pounds in UK.
USD800 in USA, retail price 699 pounds in UK, retail price
The average street price has maybe a 15% discount.
So how much is the 18-200mm in Malaysia in street price? You can also figure out the price of the Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA, Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM and Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM from this.
zstan: The 18-200mm is far more matched to the NEX-VG10.
ianho: Sony Malaysia's pricing has closely followed the US price. However seeing Sony does not match USD and pound prices now, and the yen is strong, I can't say they won't change whose pricing they follow.
The Canon EF-S 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 IS doesn't have USM, though (which is funny since the earlier Nikkor 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 AF-S VR has SWM, which ironically has a noisy, buzzy VR sound!)
zstan: A thing to note though - classic camcorders have at least 10x optical zoom, and constant F1.8. However their crop factor is a lot smaller which allows for such optics!
So while the 18-200mm does make a good travel zoom, it isn't quite ready for the night as a bright prime will be. Even a 50mm F1.4 is of a nice focal length for low-light video (I've tried interviews in moderately noisy places - anything longer than 50mm and you'll have to stand so far back that the interviewee's voice gets drowned out in the background. Surprisingly, the 16mm gets the right distance for noisy places.)
The Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS has ring-type SSM, like the Sony E 16mm F2.8 and Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS. Well they don't call it SSM but it has similiar features - full-time manual focus override, and in addition, the NEX body knows when the focus ring is turned. Oh and there is no AF/MF switch on the lens, unlike A-mount SSM and SAM lenses.
yuhi: The OS HSM version is a bit brighter - F2.8-4.0 - but it does not focus as closely, doing 1:2.7x instead of the old 1:2.3x. A true macro lens does 1:1x.
yuhi: I'd prefer the original 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 but the 17-70mm F2.8-4.0 OS HSM is good because of HSM and Optical Stabilizer (which will be stabilized on a NEX body with adapter!)
zstan: It's not in Malaysia lah LOL.
ieR: My thoughts exactly - it's harder to catch dust. Dust needs to settle somewhere first. Which is why I don't believe it matters whether you turn the camera upside down or not when cleaning it with a blower.
This post has been edited by albnok: Aug 14 2010, 12:55 AM
ieR: The LA-EA1 adapter has the necessary pins for ADI/SSM for future firmware upgrades. The same 3 pins give power to in-lens motors. So the OS lenses will not work with third-party adapters.
No, an F-mount (D type or G type) adapter would probably not work with VR unless it had a way of forming a circuit.
I don't carry body caps so I never have a rear cap left unexposed in a bag.
ahpingko: I love #3 (but with the composition of #2.) #5 is cool, too! I don't get to see many shots from iCity that look like #6 or #9.
I wonder if there is any one tree that you can get all alone without other trees in the background... haven't been there myself.
mastering89: Nice, good separation from flower and background!
I forgot to look at the bottom of the A290/A390 to see but I doubt it would support the vertical grips if it uses the same battery as the A230/A330/A380.
ieR: Nikon's depth of color? How so? (In fact I find it weak in color expression - when I have the time I'll post the results from a xRite ColorChecker Passport with Canon 1D MkIII, Nikon D300, Sony A900, Sony NEX-5, and a Panasonic GF-1.)
zstan: LOL my friend wanted to sell all his Canon gear but could not because the 3-year warranty was just launched - so his 1-year warranty unit could not sell for his asking price anymore, and people would keep bugging him to lower the price.
The Minolta 1x-3x was the first, with autofocus and motorized zoom and 50mm F1.7-F2.8 (the other famous macro lens that does more than 1:1 is manual focus and 65mm F2.8 only.)
Also, the same dude who throws the red NEX shoots sports with Sony Alpha!
Sakurako: Sony does have production plants in Malaysia. They have retooled what the factories do, though. There was also a Minolta factory here for a long time making lenses. I believe it was transferred to Sony.
As far as I know, one of the things the Bangi plant makes is TVs but they could have changed its function.
signither: Yes, newer bodies will use the A-mount. What I have heard is (not from SonyAlphaRumors), now that they have rolled out the NEX products, they will concentrate back on good ol' classic Alpha.
It would be premature to think that Sony is just concentrating in E-mount. The reason is simple - even if Sony had both the E-mount and pellicle cameras already ready, they cannot release both at the same time! If not, some people would not buy the NEX.
There is a very deliberate sequencing to which products come first, in order to avoid eating other product sales.
Also, Sony must release their products throughout the year, because products sell their best when they are just launched.
Sure, Sony could have released the 35mm F1.8 DT SAM before the 50mm F1.8 DT SAM... but by releasing the 50mm first, people would have to buy that if they want a cheap bright lens. If they released both, nobody would buy the 50mm! By them selling the 50mm first, it gives them time to:
a) design and manufacture a 35mm F1.8 or b) find a contractor to do it
shootkk: Certainly not - the 18-200mm is already a DT APS-C lens optimized for digital. However it's weaker than the 18-250mm so I can't say for sure if it's better than the 18-55mm and 55-200mm lenses which are pretty good!
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