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post Aug 19 2010, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Aug 18 2010, 04:52 PM)
"Dragon Age 2 thrusts players into the role of Hawke, a penniless refugee who rises to power to become the single most important character in the world of Dragon Age. Known to be a survivor of the Blight and the Champion of Kirkwall,"
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This is sort of disturbingly similar to Mass Effect.

"Mass Effect thrusts players into the role of Shepard, a human who rises to power to become a Spectre in the world of Mass Effect. Known to be a survivor/hero/blah blah blah of the Skyllian Blitz,"

Need to see more of DA2,though.
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post Jan 7 2011, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(gempakstarz @ Jan 7 2011, 06:15 PM)
Eh how u know??did he stated he play jack sparrow version?  rclxub.gif
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It's probably pirated, as if you buy original, you wont put it aside after playing for 15 minutes.

Even the borderline rubbish Sword and Soldier i playyed for half an hour before i stop playing.
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post Jan 8 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 7 2011, 07:30 PM)
OOT: Blasphemy! How can you label it as a rubbish?

Anyway, I do have colleagues who bought an original copy of StarCraft 2 but spent only a few minutes before throwing it aside. sad.gif
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It's a pretty nice game, if only it's on mobile phones.

It become such a rubbish game when you play it on PC. I feel scammed, seriously, buying a game like this on a PC.
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post Jan 11 2011, 10:11 AM

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Is it just me or there are very little marketing for this game?
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post Feb 12 2011, 09:31 AM

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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/11...ins-of-footage/

Here is a 55 minutes PC livestream
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post Feb 24 2011, 08:52 PM

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Im gonna finish my DA1.

DA2 combat is very good.
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post Feb 25 2011, 03:45 PM

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I sort of like the new combat.

Feels more intuitive now, except the camera really sucks now.
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post Feb 27 2011, 11:07 AM

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There are 2 things i really really hate about DA2: The gawd damn camera and dialog wheel.

It felt worse than DA1.
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post Feb 27 2011, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Feb 27 2011, 04:37 PM)
Agreed. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Sadly this is the state of the current crop of CRPGs. The newer generation of gamers (console kiddies) do not appreciate deep and engrossing dialogue, they just want to kill stuff. And for me personally, the amount of blood in DA2 is unnecessarily excessive. I LOLed at the exploding darkspawns. There's just blood all over the place. Whoa. It feels like someone incorporated Fallout 3's Bloody Mess into DA2.
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How about Witcher 2?

It seems to be the closest to what CRPG ever be.
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post Feb 27 2011, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Feb 27 2011, 06:49 PM)
My concern with Witcher 2 is its script. On the other hand, its branching dialogue system is ideal to me  smile.gif

In the first game, there were numerous times whereby NPCs would utter the F-bomb and it just seemed kinda awkward and improper for a fantasy game albeit a very dark one.

Anyway, here's a glorious screen shot for all you BLOOD AND GORE lovers muahahahahahaha (Bloody Mess on steroids)
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I don't see what's wrong with swearing in a fantasy game. Witcher isn't just some typical goody fairy tales RPG. Great story and decent combat and role playing is what I'm looking for.

I'm fine with DA2's gore but I really dislike the locked camera. At least let me pan around when I zoom out or let me play like Mass Effect where my character don't run away when I accidentally clicked the ground.

At least the gore doesn't look as bad as what Beth made.
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post Feb 28 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Feb 27 2011, 08:26 PM)
I remembered Geralt saying  "f*ckin absolutely" or something similar during a casual conversation with a merchant in Vizima and that was just LOL moment for me. To some, it kinda killed the immersion since such a word has never been uttered before in a fantasy game haha. The writers just basically dropped random F-bombs in every conversation. Its like having Hawke say "F*ckin darkspawns! F*** all of them! hahaha

Anyway, to each his own.

One thing I like about DA2 is that Health and Lyrium pots are now universally bound to all characters. That saves me all the trouble.

Furthermore, the animation has been improved. Characters don't run like there's something shoved up their butts.
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The swearing isnt much in Witcher. Im fine with that, and there arent any laws saying a fantasy universe cant swear.

Dont know why there are cases that my Health Potion isnt activated.
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post Feb 28 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Feb 28 2011, 12:37 PM)
yeay, another butchered RPG.

lets double hope Skyrim fill its promise albeit Oblivion/Fallout 3 failed hard.
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I rather play DA2 than another wooden animation game by Beth.
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post Mar 12 2011, 11:43 AM

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Okay, now you guys made me worried about Mass Effect 3. sad.gif
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post Mar 13 2011, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Mar 12 2011, 04:02 PM)
lol not sure...


Added on March 12, 2011, 6:31 pmPretty nice review for DA2 biggrin.gif

http://www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html

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What the f***?

What has Bioware done? I am really wrong this time, by giving confidence that Bioware can deliver a good DA2 in 18 months. In the end, it is a piece of shit. Oh gawd, that elf head is just horrible. Im very worried of Mass Effect 3, as ME3 is seemed to rushed out at the end of the year.

What the hell is wrong with you EA? Enough of being the good guys, and now you want to milk everything you have to crap again? doh.gif
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post Mar 13 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Mar 13 2011, 10:55 AM)
Ohmy.... so many regrets ar?
Hope Crysis 2 wont disappoint me as much as this.
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That's why i didn't preorder Crysis 2. I'm scared of the quality of the game. Same goes for Shift 2.
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post Mar 13 2011, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Mar 13 2011, 01:55 PM)
Really? Two Worlds 2? Come on.. You guys are over exaggerating. What's this amazon ratings? DA2 is a flawed game. In many ways a step back. BUT they tried something new. It may not be what I would like but it's a good game on its own merits. Don't believe the extremely positive reviews and and the extremely negative reviews. They are full of hyperbole.
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I tend to believe on what players themselves say. If the whole internet say something awful about it, i think thats true. On the other hand, reviews are completely untrustable anyway.

The screenshots and videos just tell me more than i shouldnt even think about getting this.

The demo is pretty fun, but it doesnt feel like DA at all.
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post Mar 13 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Mar 13 2011, 02:09 PM)
People are easily manipulated. By the media by their government and by hysteria. It's easy to say game X sucks or is crap than to actually post about what is flawed about it and have a constructive discussion about it. People are just as susceptible to hyperbolic rants. Just read other forums. Gametrailers... And those aren't the 'whole' internet.
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Im not talking about just gametrailers, as there is quite a long flame war on there. There are other sites like Metacritic, Bioware social network and even low yat. Have you seen anyone saying DA2 is as good as ME2 to ME1? No one like it, as it's so streamlined and dumb down. Everyone wants a Baldur's Gate sequel, not a dumbed down, shorted game.

Even just by reading what is written here is more than enough. It is not a DA:O successor.

That picture of that horribly modelled elf still haunt me, and it just tell me that Bioware did not put enough effort in making the game shine. Instead just pushed out the door quickly to meet release date. Im still very surprised that it is a Bioware game, as they dont make rubbish like this.

I do hope that DA2's quality is compromised because they need more manpower for ME3 to be the best shooter RPG ever. Not because they rush it out just to make a quick bucks.

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post Mar 13 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Mar 13 2011, 02:38 PM)
If people say it's not as good as ME2 != they hate it. Look DA2 is not their best game. Without a doubt. And I'm not really expecting anything constructive from you because you haven't played the game. But I'd much prefer if this thread focused on DA2. And not this game SUCCKS! or is CRAP! that's very constructive(not).

Maybe I should just continue working on my review than to expect constructive discussions in a forum.
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Well, no point for me to buy a garbage rushed game, as they didnt even fixed the problems with the demo. The atrocious camera still in the game and the graphics still look worse,than DA1. It's clearly a rushed game, and even Inon Zur confirmed that. What disappoint me the most is the complains with the same copy and paste environments in DA2, which made my decision for me on not buying this. A lot of gamers complained this problem in ME1, and it is fixed in ME2 and DA:O, while for some reason, it's back in DA2. I rather have less quests, than 50 quests that set in the same bland dungeon.

Is there any reason to buy a game that will sit on the shelf with 3 hours playtime? Lets hope KOTOR and ME3 dont turn out like this.

Im not gonna post any more, because some people enjoys putting words in my mouth.

I dont have much time to play all the games now, which made me more critical with game's quality so that i only get the absolute best game i can get. If it's rubbish, i wont get it at all.

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 13 2011, 03:11 PM)
man you said it all  nod.gif this is the first bioware game i find to be boring. i dont understand why they tried to fix what aint broken  doh.gif
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QUOTE(meetxj9 @ Mar 13 2011, 03:24 PM)
Right on, we don't need reviews or anything besides common sense to tell us that this game is rubbish. Bland storyline with non of the originals charm, Corridor path tracks, bad textures, bad camera, rip off devil may cry combat and effects, etc.

And yes, Two Worlds 2 is a good game, massive content, free world exploration, Solid Rpg elements, etc. Its not the best looking game around but it definately beats DA2 in the term "RPG". Hell, even Magicka is more bang for your buck. Shame on your Bioware.
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You know, what i am gonna do is: Buy Witcher 2 on release. It has probably won in terms of role playing and story than all other RPGs in 2011. Just hope it's not as buggy as the first one, which also worries me a lot.

DA2, i'll wait for Ultimate Edition, as i know Bioware will try to cramp it with more DLC again.
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post Mar 13 2011, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Mar 13 2011, 03:33 PM)
>Implying the internet isn't full of autistic manchildren that goes BAAAWWW THIS GAME ISN'T HOW I WANT IT TO BE! THEREFORE IT SUCKS!
>Implying that the players themselves are anymore trustworthy than reviewers
>Implying personal preference does not exist

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Just like the rest of your gang, you guys just love to accept anything, regardless of quality.

QUOTE(hfi @ Mar 13 2011, 04:07 PM)
It's not even at the level of ME2. Some people may not like the wholesome changes in ME2, but it some ways it was a massive improvement. And most importantly, the same story driven of epic proportion was brought forward in ME2. The same can't be said about DA2, did DAO need a new dumb down mechanic ? No. Did it need a new graphic update ? Not really. I think msot of us were even surprised at how soon Bioware decided to release a sequel. You're right, it did feels more like a DLC to me. Take away the graphics update and the dumb down mechanic, and it could've easily sell off as a dlc for DAO. I actually felt that the entire DA2 could've been the back story for Duncan - even the hero looks and talks like Duncan.
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ME2 seems worse at the beginning, because they removed some of the RPG element. However, in return, Bioware gave a great story, supported by a great party members. Not to forget the awesome revamped combat. Lastly, no more Mako at all. Losing one aspect, but gaining a lot in others, doesnt even sound bad at all. It is a huge step up from the original, as it is proved that Bioware does listen what players like and dont like from the first game.

DA2, they didnt even try to improve the game, other than making combat fun, while stripping everything else.

QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Mar 13 2011, 05:30 PM)
Why all the hate? As much as it's not the best Bioware release ever, I still found it enjoyable after ignoring everything that wasn't DAO(aside from the repeated dungeons). I may be a sucker for easy gameplay but DA2 certainly filled in the boxes, it's not as clunky as DAO. Combat was also more fluid and not as stiff. Granted, the storyline isn't as immersive as DAO but I felt as if every choice I made could make a difference(a key issue).

All I'm wondering now is when's the next release because I know they've left it deliberately with an open ending.
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It is average, but certainly not up to Bioware's usual standard.

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