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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V6, News: RM200 for installation after Sept

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post Aug 11 2010, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(calvin92 @ Aug 11 2010, 08:18 PM)
Disagree on the router being not that bad. because i have experience 2 of these routers spoil after few days of use so that is 3 routers within 8 days of installation. When it does go out, they have a range of behavior such as no lights on only blue light at the side and cannot do anything not even access its log in page. its just a dead plastic box. my 2nd burnt router only able to switch on but once any1 try to connect to it, it will hang or maybe in a few minutes time. i can almost confirm that it is because of these new batch of routers like some1 else said here because there are people who have it for few months no problems. There is definitely a fault.
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Perhaps the new batches, I'm using one from early April myself. I'm just saying there's no way to tell if its a hardware/firmware error unless you hook up a serial cable to its board and look at the boot process. What I do know however is that when it comes to routing/NAT stability, our routers have equal performance due to the firmware they've loaded into it. If you guys have this problem again (perma blue light or all orange) you should try and see if its possible to boot into the Emergency Room as you might be able to reflash it to get it to work again. The DIR-615 is actually pretty hard to brick during a re-flash because of this feature.
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QUOTE(calvin92 @ Aug 11 2010, 10:01 PM)
So will u do that when the router is completely dead as in if i plug into LAN the comp does not even detect that it is connected?
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Power it off, hold down the RESET button at the back of the router using a pentip and power it on to see if it can boot into emergency room mode (orange light will blink continuously).

If it cant, open up the DIR-615, hook up the TTL pins to my PC and see whats going on at the bootloader level.

So yes, I would nod.gif

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I would only consider the router 'completely' dead if every single light was off and the power adapter was working 100%.

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QUOTE(PluEitaro @ Aug 13 2010, 12:59 AM)
hey i wanna ask rite...i wanna apply..i dowan to wires to b arnd my hse...i read that VDSL2 uses the telephone jack? how can i apply to that? and wats the difference between VDLS2 and the ordinary 1?
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VDSL2 = uses copper
FTTH = uses fiber

You probably wont have a choice in this matter but its better to get FTTH over VDSL2.. better performance IMO from what I've experienced
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QUOTE(rattan @ Aug 13 2010, 03:09 AM)
Using FTTH or VDSL2 wont make much difference for the speed unifi is offering (5/10/20mb)
unless in the near future we going to hv 100mbps  connection then vdsl2 will loose out compared to ftth (fiber optic)
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Even now, VDSL2 can't fully support 20mbps. I was at a Unifibiz install last week (same office, second trip) because of this very reason.

When TM first installed the VDSL2 Biz20 for them, they could only receive up to 3mbps down/2mbps up (on an RM899/mth biz package). Why? Their building wiring had been oxidized and worn out over time to the point that the entire cable had to be replaced. After the replacement was done, they had to call in TM staff to check their connection/port/etc. again. TM tried to 'optimize' the thing for them but while the line could hit 20mbps down, uplink was limited to 13-15mbps at best.

And I think I've mentioned this before but TM is setting all their Unifi VDSL2 multiplexers on Interleave mode which basically gives you a nice 30-50ms+ increase in physical latency. VDSL2 is honestly not worth the trouble if you can get fiber pulled directly to your workspace IMO. :/
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When they replace your router, you may even get a used one (like in my case). I had some other unifi user's login combination saved in mine when I got it.
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QUOTE(titii @ Aug 14 2010, 01:02 AM)
that's bad, im gonna request for the new one but God knows how long it takes for them to replace

by the way, the technician was saying that TM recognises the problem of the router and is currently working out with D'Link for another model

btw, i played BC2 as well but on the ps3
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It's only a problem with the new batches of DIR-615 G1 routers, no idea what TM is doing >_> A new model you say? I'm pretty sure its going to be locked down and have backdoor access for all call center staff 24/7. TM never learns from their mistakes IMO

I tried the PS3 version but I'm not so good with console FPS gaming tongue.gif
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Aug 14 2010, 02:19 PM)
Just wonder if DIR-615 can work with Linksys WAG120N, according to D-link website, DIR-615 is able to work with ADSL/ADSL2+ wireless modem router.
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When the WAG120N is acting as the ADSL2 bridge, then the DIR-615 can work with it. When the DIR-615 is the bridge, only other IP based routers with PPPoE support can work with it smile.gif

QUOTE(pr0di9y @ Aug 14 2010, 02:01 PM)
After another session on head banging on how to setup the WRT54GL to work with the UniFi, I've come to a conclusion that a pre native support for VLAN with the manufacture firmware is needed before hand (Meaning VLAN support out of the box, this is also my assumption only. I don't have any networking background to start with lol...).

This will give a better margin of error for the DD-WRT firmware to work well with the device with VLAN configurations.

Or if you're good with OpenWRT commands then you can try to get the WRT54GL to be able to work with it VLAN support.

As this post now, I have taken the liberty to flash my DIR-615 to DD-WRT.

Will post again if I manage to get the IPTV working lol...
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Tagged VLAN support is based on a kernel module, so I don't think the hardware (or switch chip) has to support VLANs for it to work :3
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Aug 14 2010, 02:40 PM)
I think I get what you meant, I will use DIR-615 as primary/master and WAG120N as secondary/slave or bridge.  Thx
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You can't use the WAG120N with Unifi because its an ADSL2 router. Its WAN port is an RJ11 jack meant for a phone line. You could install dd-wrt on it (if it supports it) and use one of the LAN ports as a WAN port but you'll get IPTV + random WAN traffic being flooded into your local LAN so I don't recommend that.
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Aug 14 2010, 02:52 PM)
Hmm, I am thinking of the following connection scheme, if it works?

BTU <-> RJ45 ethernet cable(WAN port) <-> DIR-615 <->RJ45 ethernet cable (LAN port) <-> WAG120N <->wireless<-> PC/MAC
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That will work but your WAG120N will only be acting as a wireless AP, not a router.. and you'll have to disable its DHCP server biggrin.gif
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Buying a cheap router which is dd-wrt compatible is a good temporary solution but remember, all dd-wrt routers do not perform the same way. Each firmware, model and hardware revision have their own bugs which you need to sort out yourself so I don't think anyone is ever going to find a permanent solution for dd-wrt with IPTV + Internet support. Even if they do, it will only be for a specific router model and routers get phased out/reach their final sales cycle within a couple of years.

I think the best solution in the end if you want a permanent replacement for the DIR-615 (if its failing) is to get a VLAN capable switch. This will handle IPTV + Internet fine and you'll be able to use any IP router regardless of whether is has dd-wrt installed or VLAN support itself.
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QUOTE(mystiquemaya @ Aug 14 2010, 05:06 PM)
Thanks for the advice! Which VLAN capable switch and IP router would you recommend? And the setup you mentioned above is using the IP router as a VLAN bridge right, with the switch connecting to the RJ11 and subsequently to the wall? (Sorry very noobie). =p
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Right now, most people are using the VLAN bridging method which basically does this :

BTU <--> DIR-615 <--> Custom router + STB

The DIR-615 is completely unaware of the internet connection and only acts as a switch. If your DIR-615 is not damaged/bugged (like much of the new router stock is), this is the best method for you.

However, should your DIR-615 ever get damaged.. you can buy an actual VLAN switch to replace that DIR-615. Right now, you're basically exploiting the stock firmware to make the DIR-615 bridge a VLAN to a physical port.. but you can also buy a VLAN switch which is meant to do this. Some people have done this with the Cisco RVS4000 (which is actually meant to be a router and is quite expensive) but I'm very sure it can also be done with something cheaper like a Mikrotik RB250GS.

BTU <--> RVS4000 or RB250GS <--> Custom router + STB

Same thing, different hardware smile.gif
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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 14 2010, 05:24 PM)
Well still couldnt find my adapter for my wireless router. But I do have another router without wireless.

Possible to do something like this?
BTU
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DIR-615(as wireless AP) <-...wireless connections....-> multiple notebooks.
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L---RJ45-> Custom Router <--> PC.
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Might be possible, but I don't recommend it. Would be really messy configuration and wiring wise :/

EDIT : Lol, with the DIR-615 you can even bridge VLAN 500 to the wireless interface then have your PC dial the PPPoE connection through a wireless link. It works but its very messy sad.gif

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Buy a custom router with wifi and keep your desktops on cables biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(d60x @ Aug 14 2010, 06:38 PM)
Gotta to agree that its TM responsibility to replace faulty dir615, just hope its a permanent long term solution. else this rvs4000 could be a permanent alternative, provided price is right. From amazon its cost usd 130+, around rm 400+. If got good local deal, probably can get for 300. But got to make sure it work well with the BTU or TM settings, now or future.
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The RVS4000 has to have its switch settings modified in order to do this. You wont be able to use the advanced features of the router such as the PPPoE dialer, security features or NAT. I think it's better to go with one of these :

http://www.roc-noc.com/product.php?productid=381

USD39.95 + USD9 (power adapter).. could probably pick one up from the SG distributor.
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QUOTE(76radius @ Aug 14 2010, 08:56 PM)
I agree with Rizvanrp. RVS4000 works perfectly. It works for my IPTV & the internet but the price is killing. Anyway, that was history. I have now connect directly through TMnet Zte VDSL Modem to my WNDR3700 router without the Bridge/their Unifi Router , just need to do minor adjustment for the setting. :-).
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Hey radius, long time no post here tongue.gif

Do the settings on the ZTE stay after you've set them (like after a reboot)? And can you wire your STB directly into it or can it only be set for the Internet VLAN? Maybe you should write a guide for the VDSL users tongue.gif
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QUOTE(76radius @ Aug 14 2010, 09:05 PM)
Hi Rizvan, U can connect directly your IPTV & Internet from ZTE itself, since it is full-fledged modem/router but you know everybody hates using their ciplang hardware, so I just make it as a bridge direct to my WNDR3700 router. My method just untag the Vlan 500/600 on the port of the Zte. I will write the guide & post it soon.
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Kk thanks, I'm sure a lot of VDSL users here would like that tongue.gif
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QUOTE(klseet @ Aug 15 2010, 10:14 AM)
Sorry may I know what do you mean by "only connect to google"? You mean can only go to www.google.com ?
I have no problem surfing internet on WHR-HP-G300N here.

Previously when Buffalo launched it's own version of dd-wrt for this device [I think around May'10], I encountered frequent PPPoE disconnection & self-re-boot problem.
Later I re-flashed with BrainSlayer's Jul'10 version seem to be more stable and no such problem.
I just re-flashed with Aug'10 and tested on UniFi for an hour seem to be ok.

I really don't know how to "set some script", do we really need to do so on this unit?
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There was a bug with some of the previous Brainslayer firmware versions causing TCP connection drops for some reason. You had to run 'iptables -F FORWARD' in order to fix it sad.gif I suppose its been fixed by them already
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QUOTE(klseet @ Aug 15 2010, 12:45 PM)
You may find his Aug'10-R14896 listing here:
ftp://dd-wrt.com/others/eko/BrainSlayer-V...8-07-10-r14896/
for WHR-HP-G300N
ftp://dd-wrt.com/others/eko/BrainSlayer-V...o_whr_hp_g300n/

Alternatively, you may also find from the dd-wrt database:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
just type something like "buffalo whr" should see the listing.

I think Malaysia & Singpoare Mikrotik distributors may find at:
http://www.mikrotik.com/howtobuy.html

If confirm this one can work stock standard to replace the DIR-615 completely, I'll consider to get one also, hope Rizvanrp can re-confirm again  nod.gif
no wonder I was having frequent PPPoE disconnection and sudden re-boot problems on earlier built, thanks for the detail infor!

On another topic on the ASUS RT-N12 [Broadcom], I was reading : http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Switched_Ports
follow the instruction just managed to telnet and get the following:
[attachmentid=1727143]

Assuming the N12 port assignment is:
0  = port 4
1  = port 3
2  = port 2
3  = port 1
4  = WAN
5  = CPU internal

May I know:
1. Since the WAN port assignment is always disappeared after rebooting and PPPoE cannot connect, what command do we have to set to "hardcode" WAN port to vlan1.500?
2. Do we need to run the following in order to set LAN4 for IPTV?
nvram set vlan0ports="1 2 3 5*"
nvram set vlan1ports="0 4 5"
nvram commit
reboot

Sorry, I'm junior and still trying my best to learn & setup, really appreciate your help ! notworthy.gif
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This WAN port assignment disappearing only applies to VLAN interfaces on Broadcom chipsets. I did some testing with prodigy last night and apparently, even if you hard code it to vlan1.500 it will refuse to send out any tagged PPPoE traffic. It might have something to do with the nvram variables or maybe broadcom chipsets just dont allow VLAN interfaces as WAN ports, lol
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QUOTE(klseet @ Aug 15 2010, 01:32 PM)
Alamak, sound negative news on Broadcom chipset  doh.gif
It's strange, some LYN dd-wrt forumer did recommend Broadcom base, but no response on how to do it:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry35317179
What about Ralink or Atheros?
I have both WHR-G300N and WHR-HP-G300N, now able to connect internet through:
WHR-G300N Ralink on VLAN2.500
WHR-HP-G300N Atheros on eth0.500

May I know how to setup or "hardcode" command to make vlan2.600 [Ralink] & eth0.600 [Anthros] and map to LAN4?

I'm willing to do any testing even risk of bricking it, I really just want to replace that DIR-615, with such low quality & unreliable product, I can't imagine what will happen after 1 year .... sad.gif

Appreciate your further advise/guidance here! notworthy.gif
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Ralink and Atheros can support PPPoE over VLAN interface fine but Broadcom doesn't. Port mapping (or port based VLANs) depends on whether your router can support it in the first place. It's two different issues and it's very hard to find a single router model that can do both of these things at once with dd-wrt. If you really need IPTV, just go with a VLAN switch.

Last night, pr0di9y and I were testing out possible BTU bridging for the Huawei Echolife 850 but in the end I gave up because it simply will not support it. I managed to extract all the passwords from the unit + get full console access (priv exec mode) but no dice sad.gif At most, the Huawei can start and handle a PPPoE connection for you but it doesn't seem to be able to bridge the VLAN with a physical port as far as I can tell.

QUOTE(d60x @ Aug 15 2010, 01:33 PM)
Well, my failing dlink has been replaced by TM this morning. Called them last Friday complaining about the unstable dlink, this morning 2 nice chap from TM turn up,  and quickly replace the dlink. According to them they are  many issues with this router and TM is seeking a quick solution. After 2 hours of heavy used, seems ok so far. I must commend the friendly and helpful attitude of their technicians, its not their fault but TM as a corp.
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The moment Unifi launched and we realized they 'locked' us in with this router, everyone already knew this was going to happen :/ I personally blame TM for not giving a damn about functionality and focusing on profitability. BTUs are totally unlocked, anyone can just log in and grab your SIP user/pass through the VOIP network. Same case with the DIR-615. Not to mention the build quality of the hardware which seems to be dropping to the point that even they have to acknowledge that it's a problem.

And now they want to get a new router model to fix this? Just give out new BTUs which strip off all the VLAN tagging once the data is out of the VDSL/Fiber. Let us use our own damn hardware with the service we're paying for.
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Aug 15 2010, 07:00 PM)
One question.

I'm currently using DIR-615 as my modem, and Linksys WRT54GL with Tomato firmware as router.

So far, I am very satisfied with everything, no problem.

But is it advisable for me to flash DIR-615 to DD-WRT or just leave it as it is if I only intended to use it as modem?
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If you've done the bridge configuration on the DIR-615 to be used with your WRT54GL, leave it that way. If you flash the DIR-615 to dd-wrt you will lose IPTV and be unable to use your wrt54gl in the same configuration :3

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