I want to be a moderator and contribute to the forum. i've been here a long time. i think im a good judge of whats right and wrong. What should i do next?

you should close this thread and think again about your actions....



honestly i don't think you are a "mod candidate"

why not?

lol can i open a new thread to become a staff in Main Site/Forum Feedback and Helpdesk? lulz.

what you should do is PM the staff/mod/admin in charge in the particular subtopic regarding your desire.

and i think you missed this - http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=31 which makes me think somehow you are not ready enough for that job.

you cant because you're not a good judge.

I AM.

anyway thanks for the tips...any nice staff/mod/admin that u recommend?

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 07:27 PM

you just make yourself look funny when you reply like this

and what makes you think you are a good judge? what?

if i were you, i will close this thread to prevent from being fire by others.

ADD : and only stupid, retarded fag will accept this kind of answer from someone that who want to be 'mod' in RWI. just wake the f*** up sir.

This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: Jul 20 2010, 07:31 PM

I have a good reason why he shouldn't be a mod:
/thread

Good moderators do not fear fire from haters. We uphold justice with honour and pride. We dedicate ourselves for the betterment of the forum.

oh yes, by posting a complaint with this manner : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1082841&hl=

that was a good and valid thread...read till the end.. the staffs and mods supported me.

If you are a true judge, you don't go off fire off people

rightttttttttttttttt..........

point taken, even though i never 'fire off' anyone without basis. Thanks for the feedback.

Anymore?

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Added on July 20, 2010, 7:45 pmlove u too.

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Added on July 20, 2010, 7:46 pmthat is your opinion.

i just want to contribute to the forum.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 07:46 PM

If you want to be a Mod.

Let the Mods/Staff Choose you. Don't Open a thread with the title " I want to be mod for Rwi. "


Even if the mod/staff did favor you, don't think mod/staff will favor you know after this thread


Good Luck

since i do not know any mods personally, i gotta attract some attention right? how else do i know who is the right person to approach.

and thanks for the luck.

too bad what u want is not a criteria for my appointment.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 07:49 PM

lol Mr.Mod, someone did report your thread already.

and what Johan said is true. they choose you if they think you are good enough. nuff said.

normal user cannot contribute? must be mod?
How you going to contribute if you be a mod?
By starting to ban people that go against you?

they cant think im good enough if they dont know me. well hopefully they will after this.


nope. i think there are many things that go by unnoticed and unreported. things which arent right. but anyway i wont simply delete posts without a private PM to clarify the reason first. i respect freedom of speech

why not give him a try. then we'll see if he is up to his words or not

u have an open mind.

There's currently no moderator assigned for the RWI section and it is lead by forum staffs (MayAnne, fyire, and b00n), this shows how high the standard is in that section. If you want to be a moderator for that section you'll have to convince them first. We'll look at your posting history and conduct and discuss about it.

And to the others, Helpdesk is not /k/. And this is your final warning. :/

thank you for your kind explanation. So i guess there is no vacancy for RWI. Is there any other section that could use some help? i could prove myself in those. im only offering because i know i can be a very useful addition to the team.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 08:10 PM

Usually mods got elected because other forumers/seniors/mods nominated them; which shows how the rest felt about that same person handling the sections which he/she is being nominated.

can u nominate me please?

i can help baronic out at Cupid Corner.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 08:45 PM

@teongpeng,
If U feel there are posts which should be reported, U can always start by reporting it. Every member can contribute to any forum, not just Mods

i do that sometimes....but but...i always feel like...im kacau-ing the moderators....u know like...they will see oh my gawd its teongpeng again....what he want this time..and then they roll their eyes and such...u know...

TS, rather than just making a thread asking for a 'promotion' and saying ur a senior member, why not provide links to which people agreed to your so called 'good judgments'.

you cant expect to make a thread and EXPECT the mods to elect you as one of them without expecting the all-too-obvious troll replies.

i do not mind the troll replies mate...i can handle their one liners with my own one liner comebacks.

Anyway what you suggested is good...that i should provide link..but that would be too 'perasan' dont u think? lol...anyway most of my stuffs are in the religion thread on RWI...havent post much lately though...just one or 2 a day...

and i also used to hang out at Cupid corner...answering problems and such...but stopped recently because its become very kopitiam-ike without an active mod there to get everybody in line. I used to like that place...even though i was given 40% warn level by baronic.

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Added on July 20, 2010, 8:55 pmer...anyway...would it be more appropriate if i can bring my case to a personal chat with any staffs on msn maybe?

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 08:55 PM

the best way to prove ur credibility:

1) provide links to genuinely intelligent remarks of yours.
2) get testimonials from fellow 'credible' forumers.

good luck in ur quest tho.

er... bro bro....rwi, religion thread....i dont spam there, only intelligent posts...so u can check it out if u like...

I think teongpeng can do the job. He's my support.

Aye here too m8.

before u judge at least read this first
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...posts&hl=&st=25

and u realize whether his replies are constructive or not. Baronic is very active there if u think someone breaking the rules he should start by reporting it.

After that search for Baronic posts and read how constructive response should be like.


Thats just my opinion

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 20 2010, 09:37 PM

I would be inclined to offer my support providing he really can do his work.

from this, i feel that he lacks the depth in general knowledge, but thats just me.

+1. for trying to bash you TS, but i think you are not mature enough, YET. but when you do, i do think you will be a good mod. take more time to gain more experience. you need it, really.

i dun understand why do you want to be a moderator to be a 'judge'?

being a moderator is certainly not fun especially in this forum which is considered slightly more serious IMO(compared to mykopitiam etc) and my past experience being a mod.

so by being a mod,

1. trolling & spamming would have to be cut to a minimum to preserve your 'authority'.

2. every now and then you need to review your entrusted sub-forums, i.e. deleting old threads, closing useless topics, merging and moving threads etc.

so i dun really see the 'fun' of being a mod. i respect the currents mods & staffs as they are doing all this 'dirty' job to keep the forum in place.

but based on your intentions, you don't suit to be a mod IMO.

if your intentions were

' i wanna be a mod in RWI because i find the subforum very messy and i would like to help out to clear it, discussions are conducted immaturely where members are flaming each other for no good reason.i wish to step in and remind the members to debate properly and not treat the place like a kopitiam as i don't see much staff members/mods stepping in'.

then i think i would support you. /inb4TSsayingmyreplieswereactuallyhisintentions.

however i am all okay to support you for the 'elite' tag. cheers

Create a thread in helpdesk wanting to be a mod can get an elite tag. Like that i also want eh Can i create a thread asking for an elite tag HAHAHA jk
Yeah being a moderator is not that fun actually.

thats expected from you, thanks.


im surprised with this though, but thanks.


thanks, whoever u are.


thanks, i do nt have any hidden agenda...i just feel that i can really contribute as a mod. Can put my excellent judgements into good use...even if its unpaid. was thiking up ways how i can help in real life u know...and then i thought...hey...lowyatt's is good place to start.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 10:05 PM

u can contribute excellent judgements equally well as a senior member too.

If as simple as that to get an Elite tag or something, then there is no need for a tag anymore, ain't that?
I think that we need more than opening a thread to ask for something.
We should work for it.

And if you wanna talk about messy, try being Mr.DavidGary or Mods in Mobile Section.
Mr. David has to lock at least 1 noob thread per day in Apple subforum and talking bout messy, See mobile phone section >"<
That section is so messy.
If your intention is to really help people and the mods, then yeap.
I will indeed offer my support.

Another thing show TS not suitable because he is bias. He only reply to positive comments. If TS can counter response to negative comments with positive comments he gets my vote. Worry later might become a bias mod in decision making.

If u search through the forum how mature mod/admin are when responding to negative comments. I think TS not enough mature to handle the section

No offense to anyone just my opinion

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 20 2010, 10:06 PM

seriously, uve gotta stop with the self-proclaimed 'excellent judgment' claim.

Can I open a thread and ask to be a mod/elite/VIP too?

Anyway , if the team sees you that you're a credible member you'll be promoted. RWI is closely monitored by the 3 frontiers , fyire , boon and MayAnne. Heck even i as a staff do not moderate that section nor approve its topic. Unless an obvious spam or some trolling going on then I step in. The thing is that moderators are generally choosen by members of other moderating team. If you're nominated then you'll be voted. If you're in favour then you'll be promoted. This is how it works

What I would suggest you to do is to continue what you're doing currently. Who knows one day you'll be part of the team as well.

To the rest of you guys , its helpdesk. Any more /k/ style spam here you'll be given some "time off".

well no offence taken. Infact what u had brought up actually backs up my personality as suitable to be a mod...i do not get emo over baseless insults. i respect your opinions. but since they arent constructive, i cant reply to them....dont want to turn this thread into a flame war unnecesssarily.


if you've got it, flaunt it. and i've got it. read my posts.

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Added on July 20, 2010, 10:09 pmhi prasys. i understand i'm probably not qualified for RWI...sorry for the title....but can i contribute in another section of the forum? im familiar with cupid corner...thats if...baronic wont mind,.or Phd...but Phd doesnt seem to require any mod involvements..so far its been good.



This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 20 2010, 10:20 PM

i don't understand. now we are on the page 3 and you are the only one that keep claiming your posts are qualified for Elite/Mod tag.

The secret to getting a mod tag is obviously writing a fat cheque to se7en. The more digits you put in the better the position. Wkkay literally sold his 3 bedroom house in the Melbourne CBD to get the admin tag. Honest injun!

But on a more serious note, usually if you're good enough, people will nominate you, not you nominating yourself. Might i add, it feels a little pretentious to say the least. If you are contributing the community at large will acknowledge it. That has always been the process and that will always be the process. The other way is to be nominated by a member of the moderating team who feels that you're good a enough, a closed vote is cast and unless a veto is put in (this was the process last i remember), you will be offered probate status and then after say 6 months, full mod status.

If no normal members are showing a majority of support and no mods have nominated you, you probably haven't reached the benchmark required. Tough luck, try again next time. No cigar for your efforts. I like to think that i'm goddamned awesome, but the painful reality is that i'm probably not and the same applies to you. All of this doesn't stop you from trying harder to better yourself thus being a more suitable candidate in the future, so good luck.

PS : Probably capitalization and superior grammer Nazi skills are appreciated.

This post has been edited by empire23: Jul 21 2010, 07:47 AM

i tot last time fyire boon mayanne all also mod what when they started har har har. anyways a PM would have been more humble then opening a thread saying i have good judgement. also you already got 40% warn b4. i tot u had to be squeaky clean when u got nominated?

Forum is an open place for discussion.
As a mod, the duty is not to judge which post is wrong or right.

Forum place welcomed any posts, as long as the posts are in orderly manner, no personal confrontation, doesn't contain unnecessary points, or any other matter that not permitted by forum etc. As long as the post, comment is stick to the discussion point, it is deem ok in general.

There will never be total right or wrong especially in some serious discussion especially for the like RWI.

Even it is wrong in term of practical wise, morale or whatever aspect, as a mod, staff or even admin, you don't put a "judge" (example, delete or whatever) on forumers posts.
Even it is a wrong post or wrong opinion, it is still a good reading, by knowing what and why other people think in this way.

One may correct others so called "wrong post" aspect by replying the post and correcting it, but as mod you don't "judge" on the post, and taking action based on it.

Mod job is to take care the forum place so that it is in orderly manner, tidy, and ensure the forum place is functioning properly as its purpose so that for all forumers can enjoy reading and discussing and forum place become a good resources and useful/helpful virtual community.

A mod job is not a judge to start with.

@teongpeng,
Your time will come; the local Moderators moderating the place you hang out much at will know if you've been helping and making constructive posts. I haven't come across any of your posts hence am not at liberty to give you (or not!) my vote of confidence.

Like I said, if you see anything not right, just click on the "report" button and it'll be taken care of.

Sorry for being ignorant of the 'process' for getting nominations. I just thought i'd do it the faster way...thats all. doesnt harm anybody, right?

Anyway thanks for explaining the proper process in detail...hopefully if there is any vacancies in the future, the mods such as boon, fyrie or who ever read my posts can give me a recommendation.

PS:ok, i'll try to improve my punctuations and grammar when i post.

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Added on July 21, 2010, 11:54 amI'd be squeky clean in a coupla months...when the last 10% warn level would be wiped off. Anyway, i did asked for the MSN of the mod whom i can speak to regarding this. its on the second page of this thread.

I absolutely agree with you. That is why i feel my penchant for being unbias and ability to discern what is disruptive to the flow of a discussion will be of immense benefit for the section i would be moderating(if im appointed la). I respect differences in opinions, i appreciate the odd jokes here and there (even in supposedly serious threads), i can tolerate questionable behaviours and personalities so long as their posts stick to topic etc etc....u get the idea. The mods/staffs who has seen my reports can testify to that, i think.

On top of that my good judgement can also be of use in a heated dispute between 2 forumers in a thread. To keep things in check, and to offer a third party perspective.

Thank you, i have been reporting a few posts, those that i read anyway...and feel that instead of troubling the existing moderators...i can contribute as a mod and make my self more useful on the forum. Surely an extra helping hand wouldnt hurt, especially if that extra hand is a trustworthy one.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jul 21 2010, 12:05 PM

Teongpeng we can tell you are trying very hard but no offense its getting you no where

What the mods/admins are trying to say if you are the suitable candidate for the moderator post someone someday will msg you offering it to you.

You dont request to be one but you are chosen to be one.

If you feel its troubling the existing moderator that means every of us by reporting are suitable candidates as well?

Action speaks louder than words.
Show the mod/admin/members u are worthy with action.

Lastly
You dont request to be one but you are chosen to be one




This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 21 2010, 12:59 PM

I applaud your gung-ho attitude and some may say you are indeed bravehearted in posting such comical subject matter. However, I also respect your stupidity as well. I guess these came in a package.

Being a moderator in a LYN-size forum is tough.. one don't want to be a moderator just because he has enough knowledge or wants to contribute more in the forum.. It won't work like that..

Being a moderator means you took the responsibility and facing a lot of pressure to perform.. Moderating task is not easy.. A lot of patience is needed..

More so, to be a leader, one don't purposely promote thyself as leader.. One may act like a leader, speak like a leader, contribute as a leader but never promote thyself as a leader.. Then people around will see one as a leader, thus appoint one as theirs..

@teongpeng,
A Moderator may only have moderating rights at places he/she frequent and posts much; ie: I contribute quite a bit to Apple Bytes, Finance Business & Investment and Education Essentials but I may not have moderating rights in all those forums.

Also, if you've been warned previously, maybe your track record ain't as good as U think it is

I nominate aspire2006 to become mod....

The appointment of fellow moderating team are based on length of tenure in Lowyat.NET and perhaps you are very well knowledgeable in one way or the other at a certain key subject. What's more to say about this?

One can have in depth knowledge, skill and/or even experience in deemed subject matter and thus, the possibility of being recommended or being appointed is on the higher scale.

From the day I first registered here in January 2009, I could say there's only a handful Moderators and Staff, in my personal view, goes beyond the call of moderating effort. However, this is solely based on my personal observations made all these while. To make things simple, it is subject to your tenure and your posting behavioural during your tenure here that make the count.

My piece of advice, sit at the corner there and play your GameBoy as usual. No hanky panky with other things and you'll be rewarded with a next generation console system soon.

Food for thought.

Jesus Christ! I've downloaded couple of songs last week from the Internet! There goes my good track record.

Quoted from Glen Whitmann in Transformer movie: "...So I downloaded a couple thousand songs off the internet! Who hasn't? Who hasn't?"

This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: Jul 21 2010, 01:53 PM

You don't have to be a mod to help. I've done my fair share of reporting redundant threads in the Apple Byte and iPhone section, and that privilege is open to all members.

Personally, I'd rather not be shackled by the blue Moderator tag. Reason being, once you hold that position, you will have to tone down your vocality and outspoken-ness in lieu of the status you're holding, because you want to be looked upon as being partial to the everyone. As much as you'd like to portray yourself as being partial, it's hard. There will always be a certain form of bias, and to hold that biasness in check to be a fair "third party perspective" as you put it, is a huge responsibility. I for one am not willing to let go of my privilege of speaking my mind out, just to hold a blue tag under my avatar. There are certain things you have to let go when you are in "The Fold", and it may or may not be offset by the extra privileges you gain by the Moderator status you hold.

cant agree more

people around you will tell you if you are a leader. you dont have to tell them

i've been here since 2003...i should be the super admin here right?

Being a normal member doesn't mean you can't contribute to the forum.

It's harder then you think but it's more rewarding to use constructive criticism (without curses or insults) and find facts to support your case in order to convince the forumer you're targeting.

It takes patience and lots of discipline to ignore all their insults and non constructive criticism such as "You kids don't know anything, LOL, Just RTFM" etc.

If you are implying that being a normal member can't contribute to the forum, then it's just similar as saying being a normal citizen can't contribute to the country. You'd have to become a politician to contribute to the country? It's actually everyone, engineers, teachers, doctors, truck drivers, hawker stall uncle and aunties who contribute most to the countries while politicians set policies only.

Similar here, contributors = members. Mods enforces policy in the forum. Staff helps out something else related to Lowyat.net such as forum codes, hosting needs, etc...

BTW, this is the first time I've read your post and it's not giving me any good 1st impression of you as a mod at all. Perhaps later in the future though.

LOL. u know i could have a jolly good time answering each and every reply here...but nah..

You know what? I've decided to let this idea slide...since the manner of which i would be appointed a moderator would have caused massive displeasure among the forumers. Everybody would start opening threads and asking for things ( they dont realize they're not teongpeng, they cant do things teongpeng can), and cause havoc for the staffs and admins.

So being the understanding and nice and humble and wise kinda guy that i am....i would like to say thank you to all those who show encouragements and also those who provided constructive feedbacks (even the mean ones)....and proceed to close this thread.