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post Jul 17 2010, 05:07 PM, updated 16y ago

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Which Andriod phone has good battery life? And how do they compare with iphone or Nokia's

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post Jul 17 2010, 05:45 PM

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good battery life??
depend on how much of the usage of the phone..
i'm using milestone can charge twice a day for heavy usage.. sweat.gif
normally can last one day... biggrin.gif
but if i turn off apn it can last 2 days.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 17 2010, 05:07 PM)
Which Andriod phone has good battery life? And how do they compare with iphone or Nokia's
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i think all of the android phone can survive 1 day for optimum use nod.gif
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My current Galaxy S can take 1 day of normal 'abuse'. Video and music playback doesn't hurt it much - constant net connection (e.g. HSDPA or WIFI) eats batt quite a bit.

Cannot compare to my 2G-only old Blackberry Curve 8900 which was a real battery king..
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post Jul 17 2010, 09:05 PM

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Normal usage should last for one whole day.
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Yalor, quite strange that they (Google) decide to let the APN on or off only. I thought they should let it run automatially whenever needed. I have to off APN before going to sleep to achieve 1% battery drop for next day abuse.
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What is the APN that you guys talking about? You mean mobile data usage?
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it is internet connection... but Android give you the choice to disable it... better than Iphone which does not at all last time, only the new updates support it, so pity those guys that have shocking bills last time...
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I had a shocking data usage too... after I forgot that I switch my sim....

Check my bill, then realise my phone is sending out data about 30~40kB every 5 minutes...
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post Jul 18 2010, 02:57 PM

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i can last for 4days,very light user here.most of the time i put on the table...
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QUOTE(Superkian @ Jul 18 2010, 02:57 PM)
i can last for 4days,very light user here.most of the time i put on the table...
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APN off?
Even leaving it overnight (finish charging at 12am) and wake up at 8pm, battery already drop 10-15%. Didnt even touch it.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 18 2010, 08:56 PM)
APN off?
Even leaving it overnight (finish charging at 12am) and wake up at 8pm, battery already drop 10-15%. Didnt even touch it.
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Bro, you really can sleep man...12 am to 8 pm (20 hrs tongue.gif )
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20 hrs only drop 10~15%?

so technically should last 130~200 hrs?
5 days!
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LOL @. @

That's a typo. I'm trying to say 8am. I'm still not sure about what app is using the internet that force it to eat its battery so fast. APN off works miracle.
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My Desire usually only last about 8 hours lol, sad. But after installing Juice Defender, seems to be able to go to 16 hours or more now.
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QUOTE(Reis @ Jul 19 2010, 11:24 AM)
My Desire usually only last about 8 hours lol, sad. But after installing Juice Defender, seems to be able to go to 16 hours or more now.
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Juice Defender is crap on FroYo. It doesnt work properly anymore. ohmy.gif
Anyways, I'm testing a method to recalibrate the battery. So far so good. I'll update my findings in this thread.
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Doesn't work on FroYo? Hmm thanks for letting know, was almost going to buy UltimateJuice. Need to check more things out now. Do let us know of your findings smile.gif
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Apndroid works for me...
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post Jul 19 2010, 01:08 PM

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how does the juice defender work in saving battery?
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post Jul 19 2010, 02:44 PM

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I only turn on my APN or Wifi whenever needed. most of the time, i turn it off. Can last 2 days at most.

Active background sync should be turned off if u want to conserve battery.
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ebuddy use active background sync too?

the only thing i need to on 24/7 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Jul 19 2010, 01:08 PM)
how does the juice defender work in saving battery?
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it turns off the APN whenever the screen is switched off..
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My batt last me only for 1 day... At most 1.5 days when there is no email coming in...
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so i turn off everything and only on it when i need it...
doesnt that work the same way?
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Ok, so I bump charge my battery and it's performing better now. thumbup.gif
After the bump charge, I did some extreme battery draining activities just to test it out:-
1) downloaded 157MB of data through Wi-Fi for the Let's Golf game (it's currently free from Gameloft, BTW)
2) Played a couple rounds of golf.
3) Updating facebook, crusing round the forums with Tapatalk.
4) Sent a couple of emails
5) Trying out the new ADW launcher themes.
6) Made and answered a couple of calls and SMS (normal day-to-day usage)

Around the 12th hour, I still had 63% left on my battery. A full 24-hours and it was at 42%. This is just amazing. When I first used FroYo, the phone would never lasted that long. I'd say without me 'going to town on WiFi and playing 3D games' the battery should last like 2days or more.

Anyways, here's how you bump charge your battery with battery calibration steps embedded. If you're not rooted and have no way of wiping the battery stats, I suppose you can just ignore the step. unsure.gif

1.) Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged (use OS Monitor to make sure its at 100%.)
2.) Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3.) Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
4.) Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on and wipe battery stats, then reboot.
5.) Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green for a minimum of 30-60 minutes.
6.) Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it.

Here are a couple of things to note on my phone setup. They may or may not affect my battery performance results:-
[*] I have Juicedefender running
[*] I run an undervolted kernel. A somewhat unstable one I might add. I grabbed a nightly build from intersectRaven's file dump before realizing that he hasnt officially released it yet. And I'm kinda lazy to re-flash a stable kernel. blink.gif
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post Jul 21 2010, 12:14 AM

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Cool tips cleave.

Btw how do you wipe battery stats?
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QUOTE(plateau @ Jul 21 2010, 12:14 AM)
Cool tips cleave.

Btw how do you wipe battery stats?
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You need to that from the recovery console. Amon-RA has that option. Not sure about the other recovery consoles though.

Anyways, the command to wipe battery stats is :-
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin

So if your recovery ROM doesnt have an option to wipe battery stats, you can boot into recovery and use adb to execute that command. It's not a good idea to do this through a terminal emulator on your phone or do an 'adb shell' thing while your phone is running your current ROM. For one, the system (and other battery indicator widgets) are using that batterystats.bin to display your battery status. They'll start throwing some crazy exceptions if you happen to remove the file while they're running.

(for you observant ones, you might notice that I omitted a couple of lines before that 'rm' command. That's intentional. I dont want anyone to recklessly copy-paste-n-run it and later ruin their phones. If you wanna run rm commands in your system directory, you better know what you're doing.)

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my battery don't seem to last after upgrading to 2.1
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 20 2010, 01:11 PM)
Ok, so I bump charge my battery and it's performing better now.  thumbup.gif
After the bump charge, I did some extreme battery draining activities just to test it out:-
1) downloaded 157MB of data through Wi-Fi for the Let's Golf game (it's currently free from Gameloft, BTW)
2) Played a couple rounds of golf.
3) Updating facebook, crusing round the forums with Tapatalk.
4) Sent a couple of emails
5) Trying out the new ADW launcher themes.
6) Made and answered a couple of calls and SMS (normal day-to-day usage)

Around the 12th hour, I still had 63% left on my battery. A full 24-hours and it was at 42%. This is just amazing. When I first used FroYo, the phone would never lasted that long. I'd say without me 'going to town on WiFi and playing 3D games' the battery should last like 2days or more.

Anyways, here's how you bump charge your battery with battery calibration steps embedded. If you're not rooted and have no way of wiping the battery stats, I suppose you can just ignore the step.  unsure.gif

1.) Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged (use OS Monitor to make sure its at 100%.)
2.) Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3.) Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
4.) Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on and wipe battery stats, then reboot.
5.) Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green for a minimum of 30-60 minutes.
6.) Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it.

Here are a couple of things to note on my phone setup. They may or may not affect my battery performance results:-
[*] I have Juicedefender running
[*] I run an undervolted kernel. A somewhat unstable one I might add. I grabbed a nightly build from intersectRaven's file dump before realizing that he hasnt officially released it yet. And I'm kinda lazy to re-flash a stable kernel.  blink.gif
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if want to use the method need to root?
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QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Jul 21 2010, 05:02 PM)
if want to use the method need to root?
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Nope, you dont need root to bump charge your battery. If you cant wipe your battery stats, just ignore the step. BTW, I stole this bump charging method from XDA. So all the credits should go to the posters. All I did was trawl around 30+ pages of posts and relay the info to you guys on LYN. laugh.gif

Actually the original instructions came from HTC itself. In other words, it is meant for non-rooted phone too. I'll paste the original message here:-
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I understand your concern regarding battery life on your Nexus One device. The following steps should significantly extend the battery life on your phone. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once. If the issue of battery life on our phone persists, I recommend you contact our HTC accessory department directly, by dialing 1-888-716-3594. Their business hours are Monday to Friday 8:00 AM – 8:00 PM Eastern Time...


One thing to note is that the LED will turn green even if the battery is not yet fully charge (at 90%). Therefore, in step one, you'll need to make sure your device is fully charged before pulling out the plug and turning it off in step 2.
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I see. Will do this immediately after got my Desire in 2days. Thanks!

EDIT : need to do this only once right?

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QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Jul 21 2010, 06:17 PM)
I see. Will do this immediately after got my Desire in 2days. Thanks!

EDIT : need to do this only once right?
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yup, only once.
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thanks bro for the input! you should make a separate thread on this, so people could now this method fast.
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Thx for sharing cleave , will give a try today ..
Wonder if it can be practice on WM HTC like TD2 ?

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QUOTE(noprob @ Jul 22 2010, 09:08 AM)
Thx for sharing cleave , will give a try today ..
Wonder if it can be practice on WM HTC like TD2 ?
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I suppose so since it was engineered by HTC. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 22 2010, 09:41 AM)
I suppose so since it was engineered by HTC.  unsure.gif
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Hmm .. Okey , Worth trying hmm.gif
Will give a try .. since my gf starts asking to replace her TD2 battery edi .. blush.gif
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 20 2010, 01:11 PM)
Anyways, here's how you bump charge your battery with battery calibration steps embedded. If you're not rooted and have no way of wiping the battery stats, I suppose you can just ignore the step.  unsure.gif

1.) Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged (use OS Monitor to make sure its at 100%.)
2.) Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3.) Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
4.) Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on and wipe battery stats, then reboot.
5.) Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green for a minimum of 30-60 minutes.
6.) Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it.

Here are a couple of things to note on my phone setup. They may or may not affect my battery performance results:-
[*] I have Juicedefender running
[*] I run an undervolted kernel. A somewhat unstable one I might add. I grabbed a nightly build from intersectRaven's file dump before realizing that he hasnt officially released it yet. And I'm kinda lazy to re-flash a stable kernel.  blink.gif
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Not sure it's just me or the method is strange

I tried step 3 and step 5 - but it immediately went to green although the power is off... does it mean my phone battery is Ok and no bump charging required?
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Jul 24 2010, 07:40 PM)
Not sure it's just me or the method is strange

I tried step 3 and step 5 - but it immediately went to green although the power is off... does it mean my phone battery is Ok and no bump charging required?
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If you get green on Step 3, that means your batt is fine and cannot be bumped charged. The idea of bump charging is that a device in an on state cannot get 100% charged because it is contantly discharging. You then 'bumped' the charge further by charging it when it is off. That said though, from the responses on XDA, it is implied that the step 5 is what makes the difference, leaving it to charge for an extra 30mins in an off state. unsure.gif
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from what i read, i dont need to do this if i just bought my Desire? whats the rules to do this bumping anyway?
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QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Jul 24 2010, 08:07 PM)
from what i read, i dont need to do this if i just bought my Desire? whats the rules to do this bumping anyway?
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I guess if you're satisfied with your battery life, you wont need to use it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 24 2010, 08:10 PM)
I guess if you're satisfied with your battery life, you wont need to use it.  laugh.gif
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Leaving it charging with powered off, even it's green light now.

I guess I am just too used to the days when I can leave my Nokia running 4 days without charging laugh.gif
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I see. but lets say i'm satisfied, will this bumping helps my battery goes longer?
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wow,thanks for bring this tips up cleave!
im so gonna try it now cool.gif

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 22 2010, 09:41 AM)
I suppose so since it was engineered by HTC.  unsure.gif
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Yupp It works on TD2 too ! rclxms.gif
It improve tremendously ...
After full charge at 2 pm ... starts surfing , games , mp3 and youtube whole evening
Until 9 pm , still got abt 80% battery left ..

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QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Jul 24 2010, 08:21 PM)
I see. but lets say i'm satisfied, will this bumping helps my battery goes longer?
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That depends on your setup like how many widgets are you using, do you have live wallpaper on etc. An indication that you may need to bump charge your battery is when all of a sudden you feel that the battery life gets shorter even though you're using your phone normally. Let's say that you normally get 1.5 day, out of the blue it dropped to 0.5 day. Your battery then either needs to be recalibrated or it is physically damaged. A total recalibration would be to discharge the battery totally, partial charge, wipe the battery stats and recharge it to full power. But that would need a root permission or some crazy looking adb commands (at least to those outside the Linux world), so HTC came up with this bump charging method that is more suitable for all users (with or without rooted device).

Anyways, EVO 4G is an awesome phone but with a terrible battery life (as reported by its users). Here's a post detailing how to fix it. There are probably some tips in there that may apply to other HTC sets:-
http://www.cloudave.com/link/fixing-the-ba...-evo-incredible

Another unproven myth is that task killers can improve battery life. This has been debated in countless occasions. Do task killers really help? Or is it just a placebo effect? Does it do more harm than good? Here are some good threads on the issue, read them if you have the time and you decide:-
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/google-an...-are-pointless/
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...87bb09cba&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683176
http://forum.legendroid.com/android-genera...-on-your-phone/

I used task killer on my 1.5 Hero. It did help in releasing memory and maybe prolonging the battery life a bit. But since going to 2.1, I didnt see any difference using a task killer in terms of battery life. In fact, on Eclair, I found that my phone was lagging whenever I have the task killer on. So, I abandoned it. On FroYo, task killer is made more redundant as FroYo's memory management is just fantastic. You'll get twice as much free memory than on Eclair.
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 25 2010, 02:32 PM)
That depends on your setup like how many widgets are you using, do you have live wallpaper on etc. An indication that you may need to bump charge your battery is when all of a sudden you feel that the battery life gets shorter even though you're using your phone normally. Let's say that you normally get 1.5 day, out of the blue it dropped to 0.5 day. Your battery then either needs to be recalibrated or it is physically damaged. A total recalibration would be to discharge the battery totally, partial charge, wipe the battery stats and recharge it to full power. But that would need a root permission or some crazy looking adb commands (at least to those outside the Linux world), so HTC came up with this bump charging method that is more suitable for all users (with or without rooted device).

Anyways, EVO 4G is an awesome phone but with a terrible battery life (as reported by its users). Here's a post detailing how to fix it. There are probably some tips in there that may apply to other HTC sets:-
http://www.cloudave.com/link/fixing-the-ba...-evo-incredible

Another unproven myth is that task killers can improve battery life. This has been debated in countless occasions. Do task killers really help? Or is it just a placebo effect? Does it do more harm than good? Here are some good threads on the issue, read them if you have the time and you decide:-
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/google-an...-are-pointless/
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...87bb09cba&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683176
http://forum.legendroid.com/android-genera...-on-your-phone/

I used task killer on my 1.5 Hero. It did help in releasing memory and maybe prolonging the battery life a bit. But since going to 2.1, I didnt see any difference using a task killer in terms of battery life. In fact, on Eclair, I found that my phone was lagging whenever I have the task killer on. So, I abandoned it. On FroYo, task killer is made more redundant as FroYo's memory management is just fantastic. You'll get twice as much free memory than on Eclair.
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ahh.. thanks for ur golden tips there and infos.. very valuable indeed.. and perhaps this thing should be shared in most FAQs of htc phones in this forum.. as not many ppl knew about it.. and some i guess dosent even bother to read other thread (like this one) and they just stick to one thread only so they would missed out on this one
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 25 2010, 02:32 PM)
That depends on your setup like how many widgets are you using, do you have live wallpaper on etc. An indication that you may need to bump charge your battery is when all of a sudden you feel that the battery life gets shorter even though you're using your phone normally. Let's say that you normally get 1.5 day, out of the blue it dropped to 0.5 day. Your battery then either needs to be recalibrated or it is physically damaged. A total recalibration would be to discharge the battery totally, partial charge, wipe the battery stats and recharge it to full power. But that would need a root permission or some crazy looking adb commands (at least to those outside the Linux world), so HTC came up with this bump charging method that is more suitable for all users (with or without rooted device).

Anyways, EVO 4G is an awesome phone but with a terrible battery life (as reported by its users). Here's a post detailing how to fix it. There are probably some tips in there that may apply to other HTC sets:-
http://www.cloudave.com/link/fixing-the-ba...-evo-incredible

Another unproven myth is that task killers can improve battery life. This has been debated in countless occasions. Do task killers really help? Or is it just a placebo effect? Does it do more harm than good? Here are some good threads on the issue, read them if you have the time and you decide:-
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/google-an...-are-pointless/
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...87bb09cba&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683176
http://forum.legendroid.com/android-genera...-on-your-phone/

I used task killer on my 1.5 Hero. It did help in releasing memory and maybe prolonging the battery life a bit. But since going to 2.1, I didnt see any difference using a task killer in terms of battery life. In fact, on Eclair, I found that my phone was lagging whenever I have the task killer on. So, I abandoned it. On FroYo, task killer is made more redundant as FroYo's memory management is just fantastic. You'll get twice as much free memory than on Eclair.
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thanks a lot for this very informative post. You're the man. I still didnt get my Desire. Damn maxis~~ hope tomorrow they'll call.
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im getting this in adb .. where did i go wrong?


exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) -


i really am not quite sure how to type it in adb btw.. any guides?

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im getting this in adb .. where did i go wrong?
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i really am not quite sure how to type it in adb btw.. any guides?
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I assume you're in Recovery. Did you mount the filesystem? unsure.gif
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I assume you're in Recovery. Did you mount the filesystem?   unsure.gif
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i guess no..


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C:\androidkit\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell
~ # rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin


thats what i guess after entering rm /data/system/batterystats.bin.. it showed up back rm /data/system/batterystats.bin without saying anything else.. is it correct?

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i guess no..
update :

C:\androidkit\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell
~ # rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
thats what i guess after entering rm /data/system/batterystats.bin.. it showed up back rm /data/system/batterystats.bin without saying anything else.. is it correct?
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ummm... yes. you can ls the directory to reconfirm. unsure.gif
Actually the safe way to do it is to mv the file to some other place and later if things get screwed up, you can always un-mv the step. But WTH. sweat.gif
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ummm... yes. you can ls the directory to reconfirm.  unsure.gif
Actually the safe way to do it is to mv the file to some other place and later if things get screwed up, you can always un-mv the step. But WTH.  sweat.gif
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so i did do it correctly btw ey? lol .. i dont even know how to move it.. haha
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yup. if there .bin file wasnt there and you try to rm it, you'll get an error message. An echo would mean that the command was successful.

BTW when I wrote about how to manually wipe the battery stats, I was doing it hypothetically. I wasnt expecting someone would actually attempt it. tongue.gif

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yup. if there .bin file wasnt there and you try to rm it, you'll get an error message. An echo would mean that the command was successful.

BTW when I wrote about how to manually wipe the battery stats, I was doing it hypothetically. I wasnt expecting someone would actually attempt it.  tongue.gif
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thanks.. got it.. i did it 3 times btw.. did once, rebooted then did it again and one more time again.. haha.. just to make sure that the echo was a success like output.. u should have known that once a guide posted, there would be itchy hands to try.. lol.. u should always post any disclaimer next time or sumone will hunt u down in case anything goes wrong.. kiddin.. thanks again btw

owh.. i did realized that bump charging and clearing the batt stats dosent do much on mine.. it does went back to green after a few minutes only.. seems like it is showing that i charged to full capacity ait?
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thanks.. got it.. i did it 3 times btw.. did once, rebooted then did it again and one more time again.. haha.. just to make sure that the echo was a success like output.. u should have known that once a guide posted, there would be itchy hands to try.. lol.. u should always post any disclaimer next time or sumone will hunt u down in case anything goes wrong.. kiddin.. thanks again btw

owh.. i did realized that bump charging and clearing the batt stats dosent do much on mine.. it does went back to green after a few minutes only.. seems like it is showing that i charged to full capacity ait?
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If you charge it during off state and it straight away go green, it is at full capacity. Anyways, if you want a more detailed report on how your battery is faring, go to the Market and look for 'OS Monitor'. If you go to the 'Misc' tab you'll see some info about the battery. If you see 4000mV and you're around 90% capacity or more. Then the battery is fine, generally speaking.

Here's the good part though, something that can measure whether bump charging will have any effect on your batt. Go to the 'Message' tab and click the 'menu' button on your phone. Choose 'Option' from the pop-up menu and scroll down until you see the 'Message' section. In the 'View Log' option choose 'dmesg'. Tap 'Filter dmesg', check 'Enable Filtering', tap 'Tag Filter' and type 'batt' in the text box. Get out from the 'Options' (press 'back' a couple of times) to the 'Message' tab. You'll now see a more detailed stats of the battery condition, including the rate of it discharging. Apply some common sense here, a Desire/Nexus battery is 1400mA (it's actually more but HTC rounds the figure). So if your condition is at 100% and you see the reading is below 1400mAh (like 1300mAh or something worse), then you'll need to bump charge it and reset the battery stats as it is obviously giving the wrong reading. Some guys on XDA managed to get it up to 1480mAh through bump charging. That mAh is actually an indicator on how much juice your battery has. The more, the better.
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 26 2010, 03:21 PM)
If you charge it during off state and it straight away go green, it is at full capacity. Anyways, if you want a more detailed report on how your battery is faring, go to the Market and look for 'OS Monitor'. If you go to the 'Misc' tab you'll see some info about the battery. If you see 4000mV and you're around 90% capacity or more. Then the battery is fine, generally speaking.

Here's the good part though, something that can measure whether bump charging will have any effect on your batt. Go to the 'Message' tab and click the 'menu' button on your phone. Choose 'Option' from the pop-up menu and scroll down until you see the 'Message' section. In the 'View Log' option choose 'dmesg'. Tap 'Filter dmesg', check 'Enable Filtering', tap 'Tag Filter' and type 'batt' in the text box. Get out from the 'Options' (press 'back' a couple of times) to the 'Message' tab. You'll now see a more detailed stats of the battery condition, including the rate of it discharging. Apply some common sense here, a Desire/Nexus battery is 1400mA (it's actually more but HTC rounds the figure). So if your condition is at 100% and you see the reading is below 1400mAh (like 1300mAh or something worse), then you'll need to bump charge it and reset the battery stats as it is obviously giving the wrong reading. Some guys on XDA managed to get it up to 1480mAh through bump charging. That mAh is actually an indicator on how much juice your battery has. The more, the better.
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 26 2010, 03:21 PM)
If you charge it during off state and it straight away go green, it is at full capacity. Anyways, if you want a more detailed report on how your battery is faring, go to the Market and look for 'OS Monitor'. If you go to the 'Misc' tab you'll see some info about the battery. If you see 4000mV and you're around 90% capacity or more. Then the battery is fine, generally speaking.

Here's the good part though, something that can measure whether bump charging will have any effect on your batt. Go to the 'Message' tab and click the 'menu' button on your phone. Choose 'Option' from the pop-up menu and scroll down until you see the 'Message' section. In the 'View Log' option choose 'dmesg'. Tap 'Filter dmesg', check 'Enable Filtering', tap 'Tag Filter' and type 'batt' in the text box. Get out from the 'Options' (press 'back' a couple of times) to the 'Message' tab. You'll now see a more detailed stats of the battery condition, including the rate of it discharging. Apply some common sense here, a Desire/Nexus battery is 1400mA (it's actually more but HTC rounds the figure). So if your condition is at 100% and you see the reading is below 1400mAh (like 1300mAh or something worse), then you'll need to bump charge it and reset the battery stats as it is obviously giving the wrong reading. Some guys on XDA managed to get it up to 1480mAh through bump charging. That mAh is actually an indicator on how much juice your battery has. The more, the better.
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My desire's LED never turns red when i charge it in off state after a full charge in on state.
Never did any bump charge before though.
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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 26 2010, 03:21 PM)
If you charge it during off state and it straight away go green, it is at full capacity. Anyways, if you want a more detailed report on how your battery is faring, go to the Market and look for 'OS Monitor'. If you go to the 'Misc' tab you'll see some info about the battery. If you see 4000mV and you're around 90% capacity or more. Then the battery is fine, generally speaking.

Here's the good part though, something that can measure whether bump charging will have any effect on your batt. Go to the 'Message' tab and click the 'menu' button on your phone. Choose 'Option' from the pop-up menu and scroll down until you see the 'Message' section. In the 'View Log' option choose 'dmesg'. Tap 'Filter dmesg', check 'Enable Filtering', tap 'Tag Filter' and type 'batt' in the text box. Get out from the 'Options' (press 'back' a couple of times) to the 'Message' tab. You'll now see a more detailed stats of the battery condition, including the rate of it discharging. Apply some common sense here, a Desire/Nexus battery is 1400mA (it's actually more but HTC rounds the figure). So if your condition is at 100% and you see the reading is below 1400mAh (like 1300mAh or something worse), then you'll need to bump charge it and reset the battery stats as it is obviously giving the wrong reading. Some guys on XDA managed to get it up to 1480mAh through bump charging. That mAh is actually an indicator on how much juice your battery has. The more, the better.
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Im charging it now and observing the figures. Seems like it is 100% at 1377mAh for 10minutes ago. Now it is still increasing and ill monitor it until it stops and ill try to wipe the batt stats once its not increasing anymore

update : sigh.. system detects it as full at 1363 actually.. it says batterycharge stop 1363mAh.. im trying to follow the bumping steps all over again.. seems like i did it wrong previously.. now its charging during off with the green LED not appearing yet.. seems like trying to charge to full i guess..



btw Cleave, u mentioned ur running an undervolted kernel. Mind telling what is ur clockspeed that u set in SetCPU? Ive been running my desire at 1113 and psxdroid seems sluggish a bit when i underclocked it to a lower clock. I know that im draining the battery so much but i really wanna hear what is the speed others have set in CPU for their daily tasks. Btw, I really dont want my agumon to be running slow or not it wont digivolve into a metalgreymon soon.. lol

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 26 2010, 03:21 PM)
Here's the good part though, something that can measure whether bump charging will have any effect on your batt. Go to the 'Message' tab and click the 'menu' button on your phone. Choose 'Option' from the pop-up menu and scroll down until you see the 'Message' section. In the 'View Log' option choose 'dmesg'. Tap 'Filter dmesg', check 'Enable Filtering', tap 'Tag Filter' and type 'batt' in the text box. Get out from the 'Options' (press 'back' a couple of times) to the 'Message' tab. You'll now see a more detailed stats of the battery condition, including the rate of it discharging. Apply some common sense here, a Desire/Nexus battery is 1400mA (it's actually more but HTC rounds the figure). So if your condition is at 100% and you see the reading is below 1400mAh (like 1300mAh or something worse), then you'll need to bump charge it and reset the battery stats as it is obviously giving the wrong reading. Some guys on XDA managed to get it up to 1480mAh through bump charging. That mAh is actually an indicator on how much juice your battery has. The more, the better.
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how come i dont see my battery capacity after i do that? hmm.gif
all i see is
active wake lock ds2784-battery ?
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Guys, do you experience different charging status for on and off?

Seem like charging is longer in off mode than on.
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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Jul 28 2010, 09:29 PM)
Im charging it now and observing the figures. Seems like it is 100% at 1377mAh for 10minutes ago. Now it is still increasing and ill monitor it until it stops and ill try to wipe the batt stats once its not increasing anymore

update : sigh.. system detects it as full at 1363 actually.. it says batterycharge stop 1363mAh.. im trying to follow the bumping steps all over again.. seems like i did it wrong previously.. now its charging during off with the green LED not appearing yet.. seems like trying to charge to full i guess..
btw Cleave, u mentioned ur running an undervolted kernel. Mind telling what is ur clockspeed that u set in SetCPU? Ive been running my desire at 1113 and psxdroid seems sluggish a bit when i underclocked it to a lower clock. I know that im draining the battery so much but i really wanna hear what is the speed others have set in CPU for their daily tasks. Btw, I really dont want my agumon to be running slow or not it wont digivolve into a metalgreymon soon.. lol
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I dont overclock my set anymore. The last time I did that the battery got so hot and I got panic (was playing excessive Carrom3D). So now I'm back to the default clock settings. But probably things will change since you brought up this Digimon in psx4droid thing. I'm very much interested in raising my own digital monster to battle evil. We'll see how that will effect my overclocking principles soon. rolleyes.gif

One thing about SetCPU that I recently came across. There's something weird about the widget. I'm not sure whether it's related to FroYo or otherwise but I'll just share it here nonetheless. I was fiddling around with the widget, pimping my screen as usual. After awhile I thrashed the SetCPU widget because it didnt look that nice on my layout. 5 minutes after that my N1 started to behave erratically. Launcherpro was lagging and I get intermittent screen freezes. Soon the phone was soft-rebooting. After it boots up, my Swype and along with a couple of widgets were missing (although their entries showed up in 'Manage Applications' screen). And then the soft-reboot cycle starts again. I went WTF and got annoyed with this behavior. So I logcat it while it was doing its soft-reboot thing. I discovered that problem was there were multiple failed calls to check the CPU speed, although none of the widgets or processes running on my phone that require such calls. Apparently that thrashed SetCPU widget was still living (as a ghost process?) and making the calls. shocking.gif

To fix it, I booted into recovery and wiped the cache and Dalvik-cache. Things went back to normal after that. sweat.gif

QUOTE(DecaPix @ Jul 29 2010, 01:47 AM)
how come i dont see my battery capacity after i do that?  hmm.gif
all i see is
active wake lock ds2784-battery ?
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That's probably because you typed 'battery' instead of 'batt' in the tag filter like I asked you too. tongue.gif
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nope!
i type batt

all i see is funny numbers
batt:ds2784_notify:1 36 at 93348742377249

batt: batt:power_supply_changed: battery at 933487504337890
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just got my Desire 2 hours ago. can i do the bump charging straight away? the lady said i need to charge for 8 hours first, can this be counted as first step?
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just got my Desire 2 hours ago. can i do the bump charging straight away? the lady said i need to charge for 8 hours first, can this be counted as first step?
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Ah, the old 8 hour-charge myth. That only applies to dinosaur age Ni Cad batteries not the current Li Po batteries. Years and years of misinformation by those vendors and nothing has changed laugh.gif What I do is charge (untill it fully charges or 2.5hrs-max is fine) and discharge the battery fully for the first 4-5 usage cycles to condition the battery so that the phone can read the battery level accurately. After that you can bump it or just charge your battery as often as you can which will improve the battery life (tip for X10 from Sony Ericsson). I have my usb charger at work and a cigarette charger in the car which I plug in all the time so I never have to worry about battery life wink.gif
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QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Jul 29 2010, 02:13 PM)
just got my Desire 2 hours ago. can i do the bump charging straight away? the lady said i need to charge for 8 hours first, can this be counted as first step?
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the guy sold me my Desire also told me the same thing - charge 8 hours at the first time. But even though you plug in the charger for 8 hours, the phone will not be charged for 8 hours coz after the battery is fully charged, the charging will automatically stop. It can be verified by the cool charger which is not charging anymore after the phone is fully charged.

Anyway, I leave my Desire for overnight charge for the first charge. But like mode893 mentioned - fully charge and discharge the battery initially for 4 or 5 times will "condition" the battery to give the optimum battery life. My Desire (about 3 weeks now) can last me up to 2 days compared to max 1 day when it was new.

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QUOTE(mode893 @ Jul 29 2010, 04:46 PM)
Ah, the old 8 hour-charge myth. That only applies to dinosaur age Ni Cad batteries not the current Li Po batteries. Years and years of misinformation by those vendors and nothing has changed  laugh.gif What I do is charge (untill it fully charges or 2.5hrs-max is fine) and discharge the battery fully for the first 4-5 usage cycles to condition the battery so that the phone can read the battery level accurately. After that you can bump it or just charge your battery as often as you can which will improve the battery life (tip for X10 from Sony Ericsson). I have my usb charger at work and a cigarette charger in the car which I plug in all the time so I never have to worry about battery life wink.gif
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thanks for the info...hihi i always follow the 8 hours rules...lolz...so i think i can do the bumping now eh...biggrin.gif
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Good enough ?
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I got a green after step 3, meaning no need to bump it?
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Jul 29 2010, 10:47 AM)
nope!
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all i see is funny numbers
batt:ds2784_notify:1 36 at 93348742377249

batt: batt:power_supply_changed: battery at 933487504337890
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You only get those from older kernels. Are you on Eclair by any chance? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 26 2010, 03:21 PM)
If you charge it during off state and it straight away go green, it is at full capacity. Anyways, if you want a more detailed report on how your battery is faring, go to the Market and look for 'OS Monitor'. If you go to the 'Misc' tab you'll see some info about the battery. If you see 4000mV and you're around 90% capacity or more. Then the battery is fine, generally speaking.

Here's the good part though, something that can measure whether bump charging will have any effect on your batt. Go to the 'Message' tab and click the 'menu' button on your phone. Choose 'Option' from the pop-up menu and scroll down until you see the 'Message' section. In the 'View Log' option choose 'dmesg'. Tap 'Filter dmesg', check 'Enable Filtering', tap 'Tag Filter' and type 'batt' in the text box. Get out from the 'Options' (press 'back' a couple of times) to the 'Message' tab. You'll now see a more detailed stats of the battery condition, including the rate of it discharging. Apply some common sense here, a Desire/Nexus battery is 1400mA (it's actually more but HTC rounds the figure). So if your condition is at 100% and you see the reading is below 1400mAh (like 1300mAh or something worse), then you'll need to bump charge it and reset the battery stats as it is obviously giving the wrong reading. Some guys on XDA managed to get it up to 1480mAh through bump charging. That mAh is actually an indicator on how much juice your battery has. The more, the better.
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I need to ask, where's this message tab you speak of? blink.gif I literally went to my message app LOL
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QUOTE(ABeatC @ Jul 29 2010, 08:16 PM)
I need to ask, where's this message tab you speak of?  blink.gif  I literally went to my message app LOL
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It's the far right tab.
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haha he is actually talking about OSMonitor there.

Yeah on Eclair. So it's only for froyo?
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 17 2010, 06:07 PM)
Which Andriod phone has good battery life? And how do they compare with iphone or Nokia's
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well, iPhones Battery Drains very fast, i use an iphone, but when u upgrade the latest firmware the battery life increases and becomes a longer lasting 1 , so if ur buying an iphone, upgrade it to iOS4.0.1
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QUOTE(Neal bainz @ Jul 29 2010, 10:53 PM)
well, iPhones Battery Drains very fast, i use an iphone, but when u upgrade the latest firmware the battery life increases and becomes a longer lasting 1 , so if ur buying an iphone, upgrade it to iOS4.0.1
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yeah and at least some of htc phones can do the bump charging, meaning much more better after that.
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Jul 29 2010, 10:51 PM)
haha he is actually talking about OSMonitor there.

Yeah on Eclair. So it's only for froyo?
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It works on Eclair too as it is more to hardware than software. Just that the dmesg batt output on Eclair is raw and a hassle to read, unlike Froyo where it is formatted to display in units (mAh and mV). I guess I'll snoop around my old Hero and see if I can come up with a way to translate those weird numbers to comprehensible figure.

QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Jul 30 2010, 01:47 AM)
yeah and at least some of htc phones can do the bump charging, meaning much more better after that.
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And we can swap batteries too. rolleyes.gif
While iPhones can only rely on software updates to improve its battery life, Androids have wider options for the task. We can do it through software (e.g undervolting the kernel) or hardware (e.g buying extra battery). wink.gif

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 30 2010, 09:27 AM)
It works on Eclair too as it is more to hardware than software. Just that the dmesg batt output on Eclair is raw and a hassle to read, unlike Froyo where it is formatted to display in units (mAh and mV). I guess I'll snoop around my old Hero and see if I can come up with a way to translate those weird numbers to comprehensible figure.
And we can swap batteries too.  rolleyes.gif
While iPhones can only rely on software updates to improve its battery life, Androids have wider options for the task. We can do it through software (e.g undervolting the kernel) or hardware (e.g buying extra battery).  wink.gif
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Jul 29 2010, 10:51 PM)
haha he is actually talking about OSMonitor there.

Yeah on Eclair. So it's only for froyo?
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ive just realized that there is wipe battery stats in clockworkmod recovery..

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 30 2010, 09:27 AM)
It works on Eclair too as it is more to hardware than software. Just that the dmesg batt output on Eclair is raw and a hassle to read, unlike Froyo where it is formatted to display in units (mAh and mV). I guess I'll snoop around my old Hero and see if I can come up with a way to translate those weird numbers to comprehensible figure.
im looking forward to your translation for the weird numbers from Eclair nod.gif
because i cant understand too doh.gif

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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Jul 29 2010, 10:47 AM)
nope!
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all i see is funny numbers
batt:ds2784_notify:1 36 at 93348742377249

batt: batt:power_supply_changed: battery at 933487504337890
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its not funny that im getting the same thing also now.. im using leodroid mod 1.6 (htc desire) .. guessing that this is the old kernel isnt it? sigh
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its not funny that im getting the same thing also now.. im using leodroid mod 1.6 (htc desire) .. guessing that this is the old kernel isnt it? sigh
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Can you do this through ABD? :-
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Please show me the output.

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What kernel are you using for that ROM? is it a .32?  hmm.gif
Can you do this through ABD? :-
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Please show me the output.
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cleave, may i know what settings you use for juicedefender?

and if i flash new roms, the battery is not related right? no need to do it again?
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settings? I just let it run the setup thing and never touched it after that. laugh.gif

new ROM as in an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2? unsure.gif
The battery stats should be automatically wiped when you did the upgrade.
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i mean the charging, turn off, on, off and min 30-60 minutes dont need to re-do right?
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i mean the charging, turn off, on, off and min 30-60 minutes dont need to re-do right?
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aight cool. done doing the bumping...but damn is it normal? i have APN turned on all the time. Using setCPU and Juicedefender Ultimate, but in 1 hour 38 minutes, it got to 89%....

i felt like nothing happened...
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I've done active surfing for that past hour and my X10 battery is still 100%. WTF?
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I've done active surfing for that past hour and my X10 battery is still 100%. WTF?
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It's still 100%! Very, very weird. And when i charge the indicator says its full. Wth? (Is that better? laugh.gif )
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lolz...seriously i dont like my current battery state. and when i fully charged it, removed form the plug suddenly got 97%....
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Sony Ericsson is know of their battery life... urs Desire or Galaxy S can last 6 hours but X10 is 10 hours talktime... wink.gif
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knowing that android machines has the worst battery life and a lot of users are highly angry over it...
instead of always have to buy extra batteries, searching for a power outlet at every opportunity;
let's make your life less miserable by sharing on how to maximize the juice.
of course there are snippets of information here and there but the mod/admin shld make this a sticky!

i will start off by posting an article i got from the internet and hope others will contribute by making positive contributions.
even though it's nothing revolutionary and yet complicated, but better than nothing right?

let's all make the android world a slightly better place.

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Complete Guide to Maximizing Your Android Phone’s Battery Life

You’re no doubt reading this article because you’ve got a new Android phone, but there’s just one problem: that the battery runs out on a daily basis. Instead of putting the phone down, let’s maximize the battery life.

Saving your battery life isn’t rocket science—the general principle is to get rid of the things that are draining the battery the most, and trim down other things that you need to use, but maybe can tweak a little. Keep reading for the full explanation.
Use Android’s Built-in Battery Usage Screen

There’s a screen built into Android that most casual users probably don’t even know about, and it can tell you exactly what is killing your battery. Head into Settings –> About Phone –> Battery use to see what has been killing your battery life.

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From this screen, you can usually see what apps are the worst offenders, and you will probably notice that the biggest problem—at least, the biggest one that we can fix—is actually the backlight on the phone. Personally I’d prefer to talk less to other humans, but that isn’t always an option!

Note: on my phone, I’ve already configured the backlight to not be very bright—normally that number would be a lot higher.
Adjust the Backlight to be Less Bright

Since we’ve already determined that the backlight is usually the biggest problem, you should probably adjust the settings. Head into Settings –> Display –> Brightness, where you can choose to automatically adjust, which usually works fairly well, or you can just turn the brightness down to the lowest acceptable level.

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You should make sure that the screen timeout value is set to turn off quickly as well.
Disable Your Wi-Fi When You Don’t Need It

Wi-Fi can really speed up accessing data on your phone, but it can also be a big drain on the battery if you don’t need it enabled, especially when you are out and about… The phone will try and scan for a wireless network even though you may not want it to.

To enable Airplane mode, you can head into Settings –> Wireless & networks–> Airplane mode.

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You can easily toggle the Wi-Fi on or off with a widget or shortcut—there’s a built-in widget included in Android phones, or you can use the AnyCut or BetterCut utilities to create your own shortcuts to directly turn them on or off without requiring a widget.
Disable Bluetooth if You Don’t Use It

If you aren’t using a wireless headset, there’s no reason to have Bluetooth running all the time, and you should probably cut it off to save the battery life. If you never use it at all, head into Settings –> Wireless & networks–> Bluetooth.


You can also enable or disable the Bluetooth when you do need it, using the power widget.
Use the Power Widget to Easily Toggle GPS, Bluetooth, Wireless, and Screen Brightness

Android includes a built-in Power Widget that can easily toggle these settings on or off—just long press on the background of one of your screens, choose Widget –> Power Control to add it to the screen. You’ll notice in this example screenshot that I’ve got my GPS enabled but I’m not using Wi-Fi or Bluetooth at the moment—the icon all the way on the right lets you easily toggle the screen brightness settings.


This is probably the simplest and easiest thing that you can do to save your battery without having to dig into the settings all the time.
Disable Apps that Sync Constantly

The built-in Email application (not the Gmail one, which uses Push technology) can suck the battery badly, because it syncs on a too-regular basis, especially when you have lots of accounts—each one of them is set to sync every 15 minutes. You’d be better off setting it up to sync manually, but if you want it to sync automatically, you should set it to sync less frequently.

Open up the Email application, head to your account, and choose Account settings –> Email check frequency from the menu. Change this to something more like an hour… or never. You can always hit refresh manually when you want to read your email.



The same thing holds true for other accounts, like Twitter clients, which are even less important to update all the time. For Seesmic, you can head into Settings –> Background Updates from the main screen. For the official Twitter app, the settings are similar.



The Facebook application polls automatically in the background, and you can customize the refresh interval for that as well—if you don’t need Facebook updating all the time, you should set this value as high as possible.

From the main Facebook screen—the one with the icons—head into Settings –> Refresh interval from the menu.


Disable the GPS Location Features

One of the biggest battery sucking features on my droid is the GPS… When I have navigation going, the battery dies far too fast, so I end up having to keep it plugged in the whole time I am driving. This makes sense… but what you might not know is that a lot of other applications use the GPS as well.

You can also change the GPS to use wireless networks, and uncheck the option for Use GPS satellites—this will make the GPS a little less accurate, but it will save your battery. Note that you probably want the real GPS enabled if you’re using Google Maps Navigation.



Additionally, you should turn off the geolocation features in your Twitter client, weather application, or whatever other apps that you really don’t need them in. If you want to keep it enabled, that’s great, just realize that it does drain the battery, so uncheck this option to help.
Use a Task Manager to See What is Always Running

It is a wise decision to have a copy of Advanced Task Cleaner or a similar application installed on your phone to help you kill applications that don’t need to be running, but more so that you can see what exactly is launching itself repeatedly in the background. You can setup an auto-kill list for applications you don’t use that often—make them cut off when you shut off the screen, or after an interval.

Note: If you’ve configured your application settings to not pull down lots of data or do checking in the background, it’s not quite as important to keep tasks killed all the time—that’s really what kills your battery, not having them sitting idle.


You can also configure advanced task manager to show you CPU usage for each app, which is a more useful meter than memory usage when it comes to battery life.
Disable or Remove Applications That You Aren’t Using

Once you have identified the application that you don’t want running all the time, check in the settings to see if it can be removed from running in the background. Some applications will give you an option for notifications that can be turned off if you don’t need them, making the application not check in the background so often.

It should go without saying, but we’ll say it anyway—you should remove the apps that you don’t need anymore, especially the ones that are draining your battery as determined from the android battery panel or task manager. Head into Settings –> Applications –> Manage Applications and then you can click the Uninstall button for an app.


Disable Home Screen Widgets You Don’t Need

If you’ve got loads of widgets that are pulling data from the web, that means they are likely pulling down data in the background all the time. You should try not to go overboard with these, or remove the ones you don’t actually need.
Disable Animated Wallpaper

Yeah, that sweet animated wallpaper doesn’t help your battery any. Get rid of it for a small extra battery savings.


Use APNDroid to Kill Your Entire Data Connection When You Don’t Need It

If you’re using a phone that’s on the AT&T or T-Mobile networks, you can use the APNDroid utility to kill your data connection entirely with a simple widget. It doesn’t work on Verizon phones in my testing. It’ll disable the data but still allow regular calls and SMS.


Keep the Battery from Getting Too Hot

One of the quickest ways to kill a battery is to leave it out in the sun—try and keep your phone somewhere that isn’t too hot whenever possible. You’ll end up needing to replace the battery a lot quicker if you don’t.
Additional Notes

There’s a number of other things you can do to extend your battery life a bit—one of which is to use a rooted phone and install the Autostarts utility, which you can use to keep applications from launching themselves automatically. Since this isn’t something you can do on a stock phone, we’re not covering how to do it here.

You can also use an application called Tasker to automate certain actions, like turning on or off the GPS or Wi-Fi when you launch a particular application, or scheduling a time of day to make sure that Wi-Fi is disabled. Lifehacker has a great guide to using Tasker to automate your phone, and they also explain how to use a  configuration to scale back data usage at night.


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Disable screen widgets, disable mobile data, disable facebook sync, disable this and disable that may save battery life, but that totally defeats the purpose of having a smartphone. I think it makes life more miserable than less tongue.gif What's the purpose of having a super duper phone but turn all the features off most of the time?

- I put screen my HTC desire brightness to 33% (which is more than enough for AMOLED screen, unless I'm under harsh sunlight but I don't use my phone much outdoor)

- I don't use Live Wallpaper - it looks cool at first but I can confirm that there's no practical use to it

- I use setcpu (only for root) to adjust clockspeed to minimum when screen is off and underclocked my processor from 1Ghz to 806Mhz for the rest of the time. Performance is not really impacted

- I enable all of syncs and have GTalk on all the time (that's why I never use juiceDefender), surf net and play games occasionally and do some SMS / Voice call as needed. Probably a heavy data user but light voice user

This can give me about at least a full day (if not 2) of usage, and I never have problem with 1 battery. What's more, USB port and power outlet is abundant nowadays, and I have car charger, so I'm not going to be pathetic and disable everything just to make my phone lasts longer.
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Which Andriod phone has good battery life? And how do they compare with iphone or Nokia's
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Added on August 13, 2010, 2:40 am
QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jul 18 2010, 02:28 PM)
I had a shocking data usage too... after I forgot that I switch my sim....

Check my bill, then realise my phone is sending out data about 30~40kB every 5 minutes...
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i forgot to switch off. and i got Rm20 bucks for that few hours.
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Disable screen widgets, disable mobile data, disable facebook sync, disable this and disable that may save battery life, but that totally defeats the purpose of having a smartphone. I think it makes life more miserable than less tongue.gif What's the purpose of having a super duper phone but turn all the features off most of the time?
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Exactly. Might as well stick to pager+payphones combo and you'll never have to worry about battery. laugh.gif

Anyways, there are loads of so-called 'extended' batteries sold on ebay and by third party sellers. So before you invest in a battery that claims it has double the capacity of an OEM one, you might wanna check out this article:-
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/21/are...heir-customers/

Browse through the battery test table on Doug Simmons site to see his latest test results :-
http://batteryboss.org/

Doug's thread on XDA:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770
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QUOTE(cleave @ Aug 13 2010, 10:39 AM)
Exactly. Might as well stick to pager+payphones combo and you'll never have to worry about battery.  laugh.gif

Anyways, there are loads of so-called 'extended' batteries sold on ebay and by third party sellers. So before you invest in a battery that claims it has double the capacity of an OEM one, you might wanna check out this article:-
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/21/are...heir-customers/

Browse through the battery test table on Doug Simmons site to see his latest test results :-
http://batteryboss.org/

Doug's thread on XDA:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770
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Battery life is very much depend on individual usage. If your usage required constant data connect. Battery life will be very much shorten. IM, surf net, email and twitter will need constant data transfer.

Screen brightness also contribute to battery life. Some user crank up the brightness to maximum level.

Widgets that required interval update on Android also will shorten batt life. Adjust to longer update interval will improve it.

As a pure phone without any data. My Android phone can last more than 2 days. But when I start use data related Apps, my battery will be shorten to slight less than 1 day.
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There is no doubt that always-on 3G / wifi connectivity is the real battery drainer, I've been on roaming since last week and if I don't use any data from 8am to 6pm (only some occasional call or SMS), it only drops about 10-15%.

Anyway, even I have always-on 3G connectivity back home with fairly heavy usage, a full charge can really last until night so there isn't any issue for me.

It's just a fact that you can't compare the battery life of smartphones of this caliber with Nokia E72. That's why I've always discouraged those so called "tips" to advice people to turn off all the functionalities for better battery life. It's really a big crime not to make use of REAL smartphone features when you actually have a smartphone.

Also - some poorly developed apps are fairly battery draining, but non-developer minded users usually just think the Android OS / phone itself is not battery efficient
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Agreed. I can last about 36 hours with all data off but with wifi on. Well that was when i got my line blocked. Now its active again, i'm using it without thinking about battery. Its tiring to think about it. So i bought a car charger...hoho...

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mine also can last more than 24 hours and sometime i force myself to drain up the battery so that the next day wont flat out tongue.gif
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does this bumping method applies to all HTC phones? anyone tried on wildfire (and works?) smile.gif
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Wat relevance battery live with the smartphone....want battery life just go for the plain one... call , sms, mms..... hehe


Added on August 30, 2010, 11:22 pmNowdays u can charge ur phone everywhere... huhu... unless dok dlm gua..... hehe

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battery mileage greatly depends on usage. i found that using apps like juicedefender and stuff doesn't seem to help at all. So constant charging is the only way..i charge my phone very often. at home and at work. Or just get one of those battery packs to solve the problem like energizer xp2000 or such.

 

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