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post Jul 31 2010, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Jul 30 2010, 10:52 PM)
its not funny that im getting the same thing also now.. im using leodroid mod 1.6 (htc desire) .. guessing that this is the old kernel isnt it? sigh
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What kernel are you using for that ROM? is it a .32? hmm.gif
Can you do this through ABD? :-
adb shell
? dmesg | grep -i batt

Please show me the output.

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post Jul 31 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 31 2010, 04:25 AM)
What kernel are you using for that ROM? is it a .32?  hmm.gif
Can you do this through ABD? :-
adb shell
? dmesg | grep -i batt

Please show me the output.
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i read this post too late ==" im now flashing to another rom, will check if its the same output in OS monitor
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post Aug 3 2010, 05:30 PM

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cleave, may i know what settings you use for juicedefender?

and if i flash new roms, the battery is not related right? no need to do it again?
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post Aug 3 2010, 06:48 PM

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settings? I just let it run the setup thing and never touched it after that. laugh.gif

new ROM as in an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2? unsure.gif
The battery stats should be automatically wiped when you did the upgrade.
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post Aug 3 2010, 07:03 PM

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i mean the charging, turn off, on, off and min 30-60 minutes dont need to re-do right?
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QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Aug 3 2010, 07:03 PM)
i mean the charging, turn off, on, off and min 30-60 minutes dont need to re-do right?
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Nope, you shouldnt need to.
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post Aug 3 2010, 08:00 PM

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aight cool. done doing the bumping...but damn is it normal? i have APN turned on all the time. Using setCPU and Juicedefender Ultimate, but in 1 hour 38 minutes, it got to 89%....

i felt like nothing happened...
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post Aug 3 2010, 08:13 PM

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I've done active surfing for that past hour and my X10 battery is still 100%. WTF?
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post Aug 3 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(mode893 @ Aug 3 2010, 08:13 PM)
I've done active surfing for that past hour and my X10 battery is still 100%. WTF?
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post Aug 3 2010, 09:19 PM

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It's still 100%! Very, very weird. And when i charge the indicator says its full. Wth? (Is that better? laugh.gif )
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post Aug 3 2010, 09:22 PM

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lolz...seriously i dont like my current battery state. and when i fully charged it, removed form the plug suddenly got 97%....
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Sony Ericsson is know of their battery life... urs Desire or Galaxy S can last 6 hours but X10 is 10 hours talktime... wink.gif
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post Aug 12 2010, 05:37 PM

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knowing that android machines has the worst battery life and a lot of users are highly angry over it...
instead of always have to buy extra batteries, searching for a power outlet at every opportunity;
let's make your life less miserable by sharing on how to maximize the juice.
of course there are snippets of information here and there but the mod/admin shld make this a sticky!

i will start off by posting an article i got from the internet and hope others will contribute by making positive contributions.
even though it's nothing revolutionary and yet complicated, but better than nothing right?

let's all make the android world a slightly better place.

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Complete Guide to Maximizing Your Android Phone’s Battery Life

You’re no doubt reading this article because you’ve got a new Android phone, but there’s just one problem: that the battery runs out on a daily basis. Instead of putting the phone down, let’s maximize the battery life.

Saving your battery life isn’t rocket science—the general principle is to get rid of the things that are draining the battery the most, and trim down other things that you need to use, but maybe can tweak a little. Keep reading for the full explanation.
Use Android’s Built-in Battery Usage Screen

There’s a screen built into Android that most casual users probably don’t even know about, and it can tell you exactly what is killing your battery. Head into Settings –> About Phone –> Battery use to see what has been killing your battery life.

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From this screen, you can usually see what apps are the worst offenders, and you will probably notice that the biggest problem—at least, the biggest one that we can fix—is actually the backlight on the phone. Personally I’d prefer to talk less to other humans, but that isn’t always an option!

Note: on my phone, I’ve already configured the backlight to not be very bright—normally that number would be a lot higher.
Adjust the Backlight to be Less Bright

Since we’ve already determined that the backlight is usually the biggest problem, you should probably adjust the settings. Head into Settings –> Display –> Brightness, where you can choose to automatically adjust, which usually works fairly well, or you can just turn the brightness down to the lowest acceptable level.

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You should make sure that the screen timeout value is set to turn off quickly as well.
Disable Your Wi-Fi When You Don’t Need It

Wi-Fi can really speed up accessing data on your phone, but it can also be a big drain on the battery if you don’t need it enabled, especially when you are out and about… The phone will try and scan for a wireless network even though you may not want it to.

To enable Airplane mode, you can head into Settings –> Wireless & networks–> Airplane mode.

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You can easily toggle the Wi-Fi on or off with a widget or shortcut—there’s a built-in widget included in Android phones, or you can use the AnyCut or BetterCut utilities to create your own shortcuts to directly turn them on or off without requiring a widget.
Disable Bluetooth if You Don’t Use It

If you aren’t using a wireless headset, there’s no reason to have Bluetooth running all the time, and you should probably cut it off to save the battery life. If you never use it at all, head into Settings –> Wireless & networks–> Bluetooth.


You can also enable or disable the Bluetooth when you do need it, using the power widget.
Use the Power Widget to Easily Toggle GPS, Bluetooth, Wireless, and Screen Brightness

Android includes a built-in Power Widget that can easily toggle these settings on or off—just long press on the background of one of your screens, choose Widget –> Power Control to add it to the screen. You’ll notice in this example screenshot that I’ve got my GPS enabled but I’m not using Wi-Fi or Bluetooth at the moment—the icon all the way on the right lets you easily toggle the screen brightness settings.


This is probably the simplest and easiest thing that you can do to save your battery without having to dig into the settings all the time.
Disable Apps that Sync Constantly

The built-in Email application (not the Gmail one, which uses Push technology) can suck the battery badly, because it syncs on a too-regular basis, especially when you have lots of accounts—each one of them is set to sync every 15 minutes. You’d be better off setting it up to sync manually, but if you want it to sync automatically, you should set it to sync less frequently.

Open up the Email application, head to your account, and choose Account settings –> Email check frequency from the menu. Change this to something more like an hour… or never. You can always hit refresh manually when you want to read your email.



The same thing holds true for other accounts, like Twitter clients, which are even less important to update all the time. For Seesmic, you can head into Settings –> Background Updates from the main screen. For the official Twitter app, the settings are similar.



The Facebook application polls automatically in the background, and you can customize the refresh interval for that as well—if you don’t need Facebook updating all the time, you should set this value as high as possible.

From the main Facebook screen—the one with the icons—head into Settings –> Refresh interval from the menu.


Disable the GPS Location Features

One of the biggest battery sucking features on my droid is the GPS… When I have navigation going, the battery dies far too fast, so I end up having to keep it plugged in the whole time I am driving. This makes sense… but what you might not know is that a lot of other applications use the GPS as well.

You can also change the GPS to use wireless networks, and uncheck the option for Use GPS satellites—this will make the GPS a little less accurate, but it will save your battery. Note that you probably want the real GPS enabled if you’re using Google Maps Navigation.



Additionally, you should turn off the geolocation features in your Twitter client, weather application, or whatever other apps that you really don’t need them in. If you want to keep it enabled, that’s great, just realize that it does drain the battery, so uncheck this option to help.
Use a Task Manager to See What is Always Running

It is a wise decision to have a copy of Advanced Task Cleaner or a similar application installed on your phone to help you kill applications that don’t need to be running, but more so that you can see what exactly is launching itself repeatedly in the background. You can setup an auto-kill list for applications you don’t use that often—make them cut off when you shut off the screen, or after an interval.

Note: If you’ve configured your application settings to not pull down lots of data or do checking in the background, it’s not quite as important to keep tasks killed all the time—that’s really what kills your battery, not having them sitting idle.


You can also configure advanced task manager to show you CPU usage for each app, which is a more useful meter than memory usage when it comes to battery life.
Disable or Remove Applications That You Aren’t Using

Once you have identified the application that you don’t want running all the time, check in the settings to see if it can be removed from running in the background. Some applications will give you an option for notifications that can be turned off if you don’t need them, making the application not check in the background so often.

It should go without saying, but we’ll say it anyway—you should remove the apps that you don’t need anymore, especially the ones that are draining your battery as determined from the android battery panel or task manager. Head into Settings –> Applications –> Manage Applications and then you can click the Uninstall button for an app.


Disable Home Screen Widgets You Don’t Need

If you’ve got loads of widgets that are pulling data from the web, that means they are likely pulling down data in the background all the time. You should try not to go overboard with these, or remove the ones you don’t actually need.
Disable Animated Wallpaper

Yeah, that sweet animated wallpaper doesn’t help your battery any. Get rid of it for a small extra battery savings.


Use APNDroid to Kill Your Entire Data Connection When You Don’t Need It

If you’re using a phone that’s on the AT&T or T-Mobile networks, you can use the APNDroid utility to kill your data connection entirely with a simple widget. It doesn’t work on Verizon phones in my testing. It’ll disable the data but still allow regular calls and SMS.


Keep the Battery from Getting Too Hot

One of the quickest ways to kill a battery is to leave it out in the sun—try and keep your phone somewhere that isn’t too hot whenever possible. You’ll end up needing to replace the battery a lot quicker if you don’t.
Additional Notes

There’s a number of other things you can do to extend your battery life a bit—one of which is to use a rooted phone and install the Autostarts utility, which you can use to keep applications from launching themselves automatically. Since this isn’t something you can do on a stock phone, we’re not covering how to do it here.

You can also use an application called Tasker to automate certain actions, like turning on or off the GPS or Wi-Fi when you launch a particular application, or scheduling a time of day to make sure that Wi-Fi is disabled. Lifehacker has a great guide to using Tasker to automate your phone, and they also explain how to use a  configuration to scale back data usage at night.


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post Aug 12 2010, 07:47 PM

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Disable screen widgets, disable mobile data, disable facebook sync, disable this and disable that may save battery life, but that totally defeats the purpose of having a smartphone. I think it makes life more miserable than less tongue.gif What's the purpose of having a super duper phone but turn all the features off most of the time?

- I put screen my HTC desire brightness to 33% (which is more than enough for AMOLED screen, unless I'm under harsh sunlight but I don't use my phone much outdoor)

- I don't use Live Wallpaper - it looks cool at first but I can confirm that there's no practical use to it

- I use setcpu (only for root) to adjust clockspeed to minimum when screen is off and underclocked my processor from 1Ghz to 806Mhz for the rest of the time. Performance is not really impacted

- I enable all of syncs and have GTalk on all the time (that's why I never use juiceDefender), surf net and play games occasionally and do some SMS / Voice call as needed. Probably a heavy data user but light voice user

This can give me about at least a full day (if not 2) of usage, and I never have problem with 1 battery. What's more, USB port and power outlet is abundant nowadays, and I have car charger, so I'm not going to be pathetic and disable everything just to make my phone lasts longer.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 17 2010, 05:07 PM)
Which Andriod phone has good battery life? And how do they compare with iphone or Nokia's
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this actually depends on the user's usage. Of course a battery with higher capacity would last longer



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Added on August 13, 2010, 2:40 am
QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jul 18 2010, 02:28 PM)
I had a shocking data usage too... after I forgot that I switch my sim....

Check my bill, then realise my phone is sending out data about 30~40kB every 5 minutes...
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i forgot to switch off. and i got Rm20 bucks for that few hours.
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 12 2010, 07:47 PM)
Disable screen widgets, disable mobile data, disable facebook sync, disable this and disable that may save battery life, but that totally defeats the purpose of having a smartphone. I think it makes life more miserable than less tongue.gif What's the purpose of having a super duper phone but turn all the features off most of the time?
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Exactly. Might as well stick to pager+payphones combo and you'll never have to worry about battery. laugh.gif

Anyways, there are loads of so-called 'extended' batteries sold on ebay and by third party sellers. So before you invest in a battery that claims it has double the capacity of an OEM one, you might wanna check out this article:-
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/21/are...heir-customers/

Browse through the battery test table on Doug Simmons site to see his latest test results :-
http://batteryboss.org/

Doug's thread on XDA:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770
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QUOTE(cleave @ Aug 13 2010, 10:39 AM)
Exactly. Might as well stick to pager+payphones combo and you'll never have to worry about battery.  laugh.gif

Anyways, there are loads of so-called 'extended' batteries sold on ebay and by third party sellers. So before you invest in a battery that claims it has double the capacity of an OEM one, you might wanna check out this article:-
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/21/are...heir-customers/

Browse through the battery test table on Doug Simmons site to see his latest test results :-
http://batteryboss.org/

Doug's thread on XDA:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770
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useful links smile.gif thanks for sharing
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Battery life is very much depend on individual usage. If your usage required constant data connect. Battery life will be very much shorten. IM, surf net, email and twitter will need constant data transfer.

Screen brightness also contribute to battery life. Some user crank up the brightness to maximum level.

Widgets that required interval update on Android also will shorten batt life. Adjust to longer update interval will improve it.

As a pure phone without any data. My Android phone can last more than 2 days. But when I start use data related Apps, my battery will be shorten to slight less than 1 day.
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There is no doubt that always-on 3G / wifi connectivity is the real battery drainer, I've been on roaming since last week and if I don't use any data from 8am to 6pm (only some occasional call or SMS), it only drops about 10-15%.

Anyway, even I have always-on 3G connectivity back home with fairly heavy usage, a full charge can really last until night so there isn't any issue for me.

It's just a fact that you can't compare the battery life of smartphones of this caliber with Nokia E72. That's why I've always discouraged those so called "tips" to advice people to turn off all the functionalities for better battery life. It's really a big crime not to make use of REAL smartphone features when you actually have a smartphone.

Also - some poorly developed apps are fairly battery draining, but non-developer minded users usually just think the Android OS / phone itself is not battery efficient

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