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lichyetan
post Aug 23 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Aug 22 2010, 11:57 PM)
my res is EK v2 type... so i terbalik position meaning bottom cap become top cap... and bottom cap got 2 hole at side... one hole serve as inlet.. the other 1 is filling...

how i filling?? using small tube ( aquarium tube) and use small pot to pour water into small tube wink.gif... that's the only way i figure out..

bro any idea?

u r really WC kaki... only u ask me how to filling res... thumbup.gif
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subrok, i think ur loop dont have enough place to let the trapped air out... u can always connect a long tube from the filling point of ur reservoir, make sure the tube outlet is the highest point and tilt the case watever direction u like ( most adventurous and quickest way to bleed ), I always did mine this way, just making sure u tilt the correct direction and didnt spill anything. Oh ya, leave pump on but PC off during tilting. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 23 2010, 11:01 AM)
subrok, i think ur loop dont have enough place to let the trapped air out... u can always connect a long tube from the filling point of ur reservoir, make sure the tube outlet is the highest point and tilt the case watever direction u like ( most adventurous and quickest way to bleed ), I always did mine this way, just making sure u tilt the correct direction and didnt spill anything. Oh ya, leave pump on but PC off during tilting.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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u mean connect a long tube to filling port and make it at highest point (hold by hand) then start tilting casing rite??


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post Aug 23 2010, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Aug 23 2010, 11:09 AM)
u mean connect a long tube to filling port and make it at highest point (hold by hand) then start tilting casing rite??
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ya... u connect a long tube out... tilt the case and let the radiator outlet at top...

and fill the tube full, u will see water level dropping...

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post Aug 23 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Aug 22 2010, 03:03 PM)
thanks the tips....

but i found out that the res no enough capacity to filled my 420 and whole loop... once start computer, will saw the pump drain the water so fast from res until almost finish then water just filled back to reservoir. cry.gif

any help for above statement?
subrok
how many times u fill your loop?

because from the promblem that u face..
imo seem like u dont fill your loop fully and
and your loop is not enough water to recycle
back to res before it empty..

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post Aug 23 2010, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 23 2010, 06:34 AM)
what does he mean that when turn on PC the pump suck all the coolant but when turn off it'll fill back the whole reservoir ?

am i d only one thinks that its impossible there ?
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i think hes referring to the trapped air pocket from the rad, pump pushes water into the rad and force air pocket into res, once pump is off, back presure pushes the air back into the rad and water fill the res...

or as Dz said, simply not enough water, pump pushes water into the (almost) empty rad, once pump is off, water goes back down (gravity) and back into the res..

This post has been edited by vladtheimpaler: Aug 23 2010, 12:51 PM
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post Aug 23 2010, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Aug 23 2010, 11:09 AM)
u mean connect a long tube to filling port and make it at highest point (hold by hand) then start tilting casing rite??
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Haha..r u already changing ur inlet at bottom position?


Added on August 23, 2010, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 23 2010, 06:34 AM)
what does he mean that when turn on PC the pump suck all the coolant but when turn off it'll fill back the whole reservoir ?

am i d only one thinks that its impossible there ?
weird condition hmm.gif
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Haha..if i nt wrong,when d pump running,it got pressure to push d coolant up to d rad,same thing,when d pump off,there no more presure to hold d coolant inside d rad..so d coolant wil drop back to rev..for exaple u take a paip,u close d end of that paip,then u fill d water in d paip,d water wil stay at d level,coz ur hand is d pressure to make d water stay at d level..bt if u let go ur hand,d water wil pour out,coz dun hav pressure to push d water to stay inside d paip..haha tongue.gif

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post Aug 23 2010, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 23 2010, 11:11 AM)
ya... u connect a long tube out... tilt the case and let the radiator outlet at top...

and fill the tube full, u will see water level dropping...
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ok will try it.. thanks for advice...


QUOTE(DzX @ Aug 23 2010, 12:02 PM)
subrok
how many times u fill your loop?

because from the promblem that u face..
imo seem like u dont fill your loop fully and
and your loop is not enough water to recycle
back to res before it empty..
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i just fill about 2-3 times only... but after i off the pump, the water reverse back to reservoir till full.. so i cant fill again lo.. then i tot it was full in whole loop... but i just realize i was wrong.

any idea?

QUOTE(vladtheimpaler @ Aug 23 2010, 12:22 PM)
i think hes referring to the trapped air pocket from the rad, pump pushes water into the rad and force air pocket into res, once pump is off, back presure pushes the air back into the rad and water fill the res...

or as Dz said, simply not enough water, pump pushes water into the (almost) empty rad, once pump is off, water goes back down (gravity) and back into the res..
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yes almost that situation... cry.gif

i only can do right now is fit a long tube into fillport and hold the tube higher than radiator.. filling water simultaneously while pump is on.. am i rite bro?

QUOTE(alan kc @ Aug 23 2010, 12:43 PM)
Haha..r u already changing ur inlet at bottom position?
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nope.. i wan overcome this problem 1st b4 change tongue.gif

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post Aug 23 2010, 01:17 PM

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Haha..i dun thk can settle d problem,except u put d radiator at d bottom..mayb wil ok
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post Aug 23 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(vladtheimpaler @ Aug 23 2010, 12:22 PM)
i think hes referring to the trapped air pocket from the rad, pump pushes water into the rad and force air pocket into res, once pump is off, back presure pushes the air back into the rad and water fill the res...

or as Dz said, simply not enough water, pump pushes water into the (almost) empty rad, once pump is off, water goes back down (gravity) and back into the res..
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ya, trapped air in the rad... the setup he done very hard to bleed, need some tilting as radiator on top...

101 for bleeding, air always go to top of the closed water cooling loop as the density of water is higher than air.

wat I suggest subrok is to lay down the case, hold ur reservoir with hand so that the reservoir is on top, turn on the pump, the trapped air shall escape from the loop, and keep filling the reservoir untill full...

alternatif is the tubing method, join a long tube, hold with hand, tilt the case watever direction u think could bleed the air.

anyway, both method need to be carry out very cautiously as it has the risk of spilling the water over ur precious hardware.

Oh ya, and its not about reservoir size... the tiny swiftech micro reservoir is one of the most easiest to bleed reservoir FYI.

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post Aug 23 2010, 01:25 PM

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Haha..d better way is changing d inlet at bottom,all problem solve d..haha
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 23 2010, 01:19 PM)
ya, trapped air in the rad... the setup he done very hard to bleed, need some tilting as radiator on top...

101 for bleeding, air always go to top of the closed water cooling loop as the density of water is higher than air.

wat I suggest subrok is to lay down the case, hold ur reservoir with hand so that the reservoir is on top, turn on the pump, the trapped air shall escape from the loop, and keep filling the reservoir untill full...

alternatif is the tubing method, join a long tube, hold with hand, tilt the case watever direction u think could bleed the air.

anyway, both method need to be carry out very cautiously as it has the risk of spilling the water over ur precious hardware.

Oh ya, and its not about reservoir size... the tiny swiftech micro reservoir is one of the most easiest to bleed reservoir FYI.
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very good explanation... very thankful all of you wc kaki here...

i will follow your instruction bro...
FYI, i cant hold the res vertically if i lay down my casing due to inlet pipe is measure to that particular length.. what i can do is

1st - lay down casing
2nd - connect long tube to filling port
3rd - pump on
4th - concurrently filling water while pump is on.

am i rite? please advice. thanks
QUOTE(alan kc @ Aug 23 2010, 01:25 PM)
Haha..d better way is changing d inlet at bottom,all problem solve d..haha
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will do it if i still cant solve the problem. doh.gif

the reason i hold your suggest solution due to i have route my tubing from top to bottom.. performance will drop and messy inside casing like worms..
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post Aug 23 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Aug 23 2010, 01:25 PM)
Haha..d better way is changing d inlet at bottom,all problem solve d..haha
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not really, the bleeding for top radiator is always more difficult.... sometimes it seems ur reservoir water are flowing, but when u tilt the case, the water reduced as the air from radiator escapes...

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very good explanation... very thankful all of you wc kaki here...

i will follow your instruction bro...
FYI, i cant hold the res vertically if i lay down my casing due to inlet pipe is measure to that particular length.. what i can do is

1st - lay down casing
2nd - connect long tube to filling port
3rd - pump on
4th - concurrently filling water while pump is on.

am i rite? please advice. thanks


yes, u can do that... but just make sure u didnt spill anything to ur hardware. tubing methods is slower compare to the whole reservoir at top. u will notice the water u filled inside the extra tubing lower as u run the pump. It is slower as u can imagine, escape air and water going in share the same path... u can always cable tie the tubing to a higher point, leave it there and let the pump run.

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post Aug 23 2010, 01:49 PM

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Hahaha..nw u placing ur rad at top alrdy drop perf coz d lenght of paip is alrdy long d..


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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 23 2010, 01:48 PM)
not really, the bleeding for top radiator is always more difficult.... sometimes it seems ur reservoir water are flowing, but when u tilt the case, the water reduced as the air from radiator escapes...
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Bt if u place d inlet and outlet at d bottom of that rev,there no need to bleed d radiator right?

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post Aug 23 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Aug 23 2010, 01:49 PM)
Hahaha..nw u placing ur rad at top alrdy drop perf coz d lenght of paip is alrdy long d..


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Bt if u place d inlet and outlet at d bottom of that rev,there no need to bleed d radiator right?
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for top radiator, u always need to tilt the case to make sure all trapped air escaped. cause normally air trapped at highest point of the loop. tht's y reservoir always recommended on the highest point of the loop. if bottom radiator with inlet/outlet facing up, its easiest way to bleed the whole loop. just leave ur pump run and it will bleed well by itself. you need some extra work if u bleed top radiator.

during bleeding, we bleed the whole loop to make sure no trapped air inside. not just individual parts.
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Oh..coz last time i use b4 d rad at top,bt my inlet and outlet is at bottom rev..haha..it wil bleed it itself..haha..
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QUOTE(alan kc @ Aug 23 2010, 02:15 PM)
Oh..coz last time i use b4 d rad at top,bt my inlet and outlet is at bottom rev..haha..it wil bleed it itself..haha..
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oic.. actually the difficulty of bleeding depends of setup of ur loop. So plan well before assemble, always go for the easiest way....

for me, i always go for best looking and easiest to bleed design. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 02:32 PM

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Yup..i do research 1 month b4 setup my 1st time wc..haha
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post Aug 23 2010, 02:40 PM

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ohhh ok2 .
hmm, the only solution i can think of this situation is to run ur loop and also fill them full during bleeding process .
its actually hard to do loop like that .
u'll have trouble bleeding and draining later on .
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Haha..looks like he going to reset his wc again d.
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post Aug 23 2010, 02:44 PM

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try 1st .
its d last choice to redo the whole loop again .
its really tiring dude !

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