Mineral oil will give worse FC. For me, synthetic improved it by 1-2L/km.

But your numbers are pretty similar to mine (but mine SX la...)....

I thought our stock mirrors are already heated one?

I think this is the K5.

Yeah, in theory that is true, but what about the opinion of people who experienced it? I heard somewhere some people didn't notice significant difference between ori EX tyres (15") and SX (17"). I think that's the question BKH wanna ask...KFC did you get use the 15" for long or did you change the rims immediately

BTW, "Outlook" does NOT mean "外表". Check the dictionary

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Sep 20 2010, 08:27 AM

Thanks KFC..btw, would 15" cause significant changes to the total wheel diameter to cause speedometer changes?

Bro, what do you mean by underpowered? Is it because it doesn't pick up well in general, or is it because the gear response is bad?

If it's the latter, did you adjust the throttle cable? A few people have mentioned that here. My car became a lot more responsive after that. But....since it became more responsive my right foot became more itchy and I drove more aggressively (more FC)

Another thing is for my car BHP seems to have better fuel econ...

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Added on September 20, 2010, 4:40 pmReverse Sensor....

Hi folks, I found the reverse sensor for the Forte to be very impractical for me. When it hits the minimum distance, ("beeeeeeeep") the distance is 40cm!!!!!!! (that was written in the manual and I confirmed it by checking) That's more than a foot away! As reference, for the Wira the minimum distance is 10cm.

In Penang, how am I supposed to do parallel parking? I ended up asking someone to go outside to look for me, or I myself had to go out and see....or have to take risk and "agak" (then why the hell should I use the reverse sensor? ). The car butt is big (but it's ok to look at, since it's my wife ), but blocks out a lot....

Is there any way to tune the distance? Otherwise looks like have to spend $$$$$$$$ on reverse camera...



This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Sep 20 2010, 04:40 PM

Oh yeah, I drove from Johor (Batu Pahat) to Penang (Island) last week, starting the journey with full tank. I drove on a trunk road for ~1hr before reaching highway (at Pagoh). I also made a detour to KL Auto and also experienced a little bit of slow traffic. The rest of the journey was smooth on PLUS highway.

When I reached Penang the trip meter read 650km, and I had another 1/8 tank left! The "distance to empty" was at "120km", so I think probably with full tank the car will last >770km on highway...

The average fuel consumption was at "6.5L/100km".

I used BHP RON95. I don't know why this fuel is so smooth and good! Right now with Vpower97 the pickup is lousy!



This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 4 2010, 03:59 PM

I noticed that 16" and 17" prices don't differ by much. Probably RM20-RM40? Also depends on brands....and shop

For price list, this is the best I've found so far. Quite comprehensive and frequently updated: http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...ic=86484&st=980

I noticed that 15" tyres are mostly around RM150-RM250 region....In fact, for Michelin PS3 (195/55/R15), it only costs RM260 . Too bad our's more than 3% smaller in radius/diameter for our Forte, and there's no 65 or 60 profile for that tyre

By comparison, the 16" or 17" PS3 costs around RM450-RM480

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 6 2010, 11:13 PM

(Edited to starve someone....)

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 6 2010, 11:09 PM

Oops...

I promise to do car talk from now....

I removed my post. Can you remove it from your comments as well?

Probably I'll just PM my rant...

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 6 2010, 11:11 PM

Hi folks, do you know the trade in price for our stock tyres (17" Kumho)?

I had mine going for around 17,000km. One tyre shop quoted me RM200 for all four tyres...

Is it so little?

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 6 2010, 11:26 PM

Some 3M poison....

Sorry about the bad Nokia camera phone quality...

I also experienced very bad sluggishness and thought it was something to do with the ECU (the car didn't like to downshift). I took it to the service center and got the throttle cable tightened up and suddenly the sluggishness was gone (at least most of it). The tighter cable sort of made the car more responsive.

The interesting thing was that my FC went from ~8L/100km to ~10L/100km for normal driving after the so-called "tuning". I suspect that my right foot became "itchy" after the car became more responsive

It won't be as lively as a lightweight Vios but it would not be that kind of feeling like it "can't move" at all, especially small hills, etc (assuming that's what you meant as "sluggish").

You won't regret your choice ....

As for tyres...I personally think you should try out the 17" before you decide whether to change. Got to admit that the handling "turning feel" was so much different....now I know why people like to choose low profile tyres

Anyway, after ~8 months I got too annoyed by the harshness and noise so I changed to 16". I traded in for second hand 16" rims (some scratches but not dented) and added in RM1.5k.

Difference between the two....215/45/R17 and 205/55/R16. It's about 1% larger in diameter...


These Michelin tyres are awesome...highly recommendeed


This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 18 2010, 11:54 PM

Wah, still so long to go.....

As for the back seat I felt ok sitting there but most of the time I'm the driver . I feel that the middle seating area is a little uncomfortable. I recall that Starghazzer had a comment on the rear seat being too short as well. But I have no complaints about the legroom.

Decision wise fort the wheels, it's quite hard to make . I think more importantly is to honestly ask yourself what is the most important aspect for you.

Originally I was thinking I could stick with the 17" but going on trips to Ipoh and Cameron, as well as Jalan Pudu, it felt like a BMX bike on a rocky road and the trimmings sounded like they all wanted to come out... . That's when I decided to get the 16".

Oh for the spare wheel I just kept the stock one ...I know that it would look weird if I had to replace a punctured tyre, I'd have to drive (shy shy) to the nearest tyre shop to repair the damaged tyre and quickly switch back....

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 19 2010, 09:25 AM

What? I thought FM is just an analog demodulator, so the sampling quality should be exactly like how the radio station broadcasts. If there is some kind of digital sampling involved, I referred to this site http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/Multimedia/node150.html and it quoted FM at 88.2kBps = 705.7kbps (1 byte = 8 bits).

My understanding of why FM loses out is not really on the sampling rate but the distortion through the medium (air) as well as the quality of the receiver circuit.

So to get better FM quality, get a better antenna and a better ICE unit :-)

Ok, out of topic (my education background is on telecomms so can't help it )

Hmm....for the handling, initially I felt that the "turning feel" of the 17" were better but after the tyres started to wear in, the new tyres felt similar. The steering felt a little bit heavier so I suppose I would probably add another 2psi to the pressure. One of the reasons I chose the PS3 was that I was hoping it to help compensate for the loss of handling due to having a higher profile. For corners there was a lot of grip so definitely have confidence in taking them . The braking performance was a lot better too, which I think improves my confidence in driving it. It hasn't rained a lot recently so I didn't get to test it in the wet, but reviews say it's very good. Also, the ride improved a lot as many of the bumps were not felt so easily.

Noise-wise it's pretty quiet but I suspect it will start to become noisier as these are not "comfort" tyres. But compared to the stock Kumho (somewhere stated it's pronounced as "Koo-Mow" and not "Kam Ho" ) it's a lot quieter.

As for the trade in they took in my rims+tyres at around RM1k (millage ~17k km) in Penang. Probably Klang would have better price.

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Added on October 20, 2010, 11:59 pmOMG. Most geng reply

This post has been edited by ggeatweb: Oct 20 2010, 11:59 PM