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post Jul 16 2010, 06:47 AM

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we cant just compare civic & forte in terms of performance...we should look into overall package...comfort,quality,safety,price,etc...so would like to see from professional review in malaysia..forte 2.0 vs civic 2.0 & others 2.0 c segment...


Added on July 16, 2010, 7:13 ammy 2.0 driver seat headrest which is wrapped with leather suddenly terbuka at the bottom..i can see there is original fabric inside..wheres actually they install the seat leather..is it at naza.?..coz from tag behind driver seat the leather is made in malaysia..gosford brand...what im concern here..if they just wrap the leather on the ori fabric..how the side airbag are going to work..back to the leather yg terbuka..aku dah pasang balik tapi x kemas & tight as before...sapa2 owner 2.0 same problem cam aku?

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Taipan052
post Jul 16 2010, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Pc @ Jul 15 2010, 04:24 PM)
if forte 2.0 vs civic 2.0.. who will win..?
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drag race or head on collision? tongue.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Jul 16 2010, 01:26 AM)
definitely civic 2.0 as after months of owning the forte 2.0, i can 100% confirmed that that even a 1.8 civic will have faster pickup power and i can confirmed that even using the shiftronic mode (for 2.0) also not really on par with 1.8 Civic.

This is my 100% honest opinion, so i'm not sure how other's think or comment, but i can gurantee, if you own a forte 2.0, u get the best car that worth for your $. I dare to said this as I do have a 1.8 Civic (My Darling's sister ride) to compare with our forte. if you want to compare to Civic, please don't, as no matter Forte nor Civic, it just normal civilian car, not performance car. Please forget that a forte 1.6 can smoke a 1.8 Civic as claimed by other owner before this when you use the shiftronic mode as a 2.0 Forte also not 100% can do so.  Yes, from technical spec on paper, Forte 2.0 do have extra power compare to Civic 1.8 & 2.0, but if you really check properlly, the 0 - 100 speed achieved faster with Civic.

Sorry if i hurt anyone by my most honest opinion at above, especially all the Forte owner (1.6 or 2.0).  My intention is just to enlighten those that thinking to compare the Forte with Civic.  notworthy.gif
After all, we are just driving a civilian car.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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why people still want compare forte & civic.. why not compare the same price like:

1) FORTE 2.0 VS VIOS TRD OR ALTIS 1.8 OR CITY S, E
2) FORTE 1.6 VS VIOS S, E, J OR ALTIS 1.6 OR CITY S, E

doh.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:13 AM

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haahaa..it is good what..
cos forte can compare with civic and not with the car at the same range. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(olitabin @ Jul 16 2010, 09:07 AM)
why people still want compare forte & civic.. why not compare the same price like:

1) FORTE 2.0 VS VIOS TRD OR ALTIS 1.8 OR CITY S, E
2) FORTE 1.6 VS VIOS S, E, J OR ALTIS 1.6 OR CITY S, E

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if you go google, you will find Forte review are actually comparing with Civic, FOrd Focus, Mazda 3, Golf ( non GTi).

Vios and CIty is not a global product, and Altis.....well, nobody remember that.

Its time we use the internet to check review, not always compare everything with vios.

I can give you the link if you cannot find any review as i mentioned above.

With forte 2.0 here, i find it hard to make a point of buying second hand car tongue.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:46 AM

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By the way, Civic is the best example of C segment car, a balance car, like a benchmark or yardstick.

When we compare, we only compare with the best, unless we're talking about proton mentality.
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(olitabin @ Jul 16 2010, 09:07 AM)
why people still want compare forte & civic.. why not compare the same price like:

1) FORTE 2.0 VS VIOS TRD OR ALTIS 1.8 OR CITY S, E
2) FORTE 1.6 VS VIOS S, E, J OR ALTIS 1.6 OR CITY S, E

doh.gif
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Guys,

For your info, this month's Autocar mag got shootout between City vs Forte 1.6 SX. Based on the review, our Forte loss a bit to City. (IMHO, i feel the review biased as safety not really a criteria there, they dint mention ESP nor TC. )

Good news is Dugong totally out smile.gif

Sorry I missed wednesday TT sad.gif Last min have to go out for meeting at 530 ??? and came back to office at 9.15 d. I still wanted to go but realised if im late and you guys left, I cant contact any of u.
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:28 AM

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hello fortezens... am officially one of u guys since last nite... :-)

1.6sx, titanium silver

* bro saimatkong, hopefully can get my car mat next week... ;-)
Taipan052
post Jul 16 2010, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(missforte @ Jul 16 2010, 10:28 AM)
hello fortezens... am officially one of u guys since last nite... :-)

1.6sx, titanium silver

* bro saimatkong, hopefully can get my car mat next week... ;-)
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hi missforte

lets TT together

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post Jul 16 2010, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:30 AM)
hi missforte

lets TT together

special TT just for you..  drool.gif
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ABC spotted!! whistling.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:30 AM)
hi missforte

lets TT together

special TT just for you..  drool.gif
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rclxms.gif thank u thank u....
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Jul 16 2010, 01:26 AM)
definitely civic 2.0 as after months of owning the forte 2.0, i can 100% confirmed that that even a 1.8 civic will have faster pickup power and i can confirmed that even using the shiftronic mode (for 2.0) also not really on par with 1.8 Civic.

This is my 100% honest opinion, so i'm not sure how other's think or comment, but i can gurantee, if you own a forte 2.0, u get the best car that worth for your $. I dare to said this as I do have a 1.8 Civic (My Darling's sister ride) to compare with our forte. if you want to compare to Civic, please don't, as no matter Forte nor Civic, it just normal civilian car, not performance car. Please forget that a forte 1.6 can smoke a 1.8 Civic as claimed by other owner before this when you use the shiftronic mode as a 2.0 Forte also not 100% can do so.  Yes, from technical spec on paper, Forte 2.0 do have extra power compare to Civic 1.8 & 2.0, but if you really check properlly, the 0 - 100 speed achieved faster with Civic.

Sorry if i hurt anyone by my most honest opinion at above, especially all the Forte owner (1.6 or 2.0).  My intention is just to enlighten those that thinking to compare the Forte with Civic.  notworthy.gif
After all, we are just driving a civilian car.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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bomberman~ you are right la we all understand that forte 2.0 canot beat civic 2.0 coz they are lighter, and honda mature i-vtec technology.
hehe... so don't worry.. ppl in forum buying forte is not to fight against civic.. lol..

QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 16 2010, 05:02 AM)
it make sense, Civic gearbox has different ratio. And civic is lighter too. But who will go racing with civic la. I dont remember civic driving fast, but honda city are usually driving fast.

2.0 liter car is too dangerous to drive fast smile.gif

2.0 forte is about 30k++ cheaper than civic, with that much of money saved, who cares about who is faster in that few seconds? smile.gif

seriously look at forte 2.0 as my next car. Too bad cant get any review on 2.0, all reviews in 1.6.

with forte around, its very hard to buy second hand car, all seems so expensive compared to forte!
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yeah not much 2.0 owner sharing review here.. but u can ask bomberman for more

QUOTE(forter @ Jul 16 2010, 06:47 AM)
we cant just compare civic & forte in terms of performance...we should look into overall package...comfort,quality,safety,price,etc...so would like to see from professional review in malaysia..forte 2.0 vs civic 2.0 & others 2.0 c segment...


Added on July 16, 2010, 7:13 ammy 2.0 driver seat headrest which is wrapped with leather suddenly terbuka at the bottom..i can see there is original fabric inside..wheres actually they install the seat leather..is it at naza.?..coz from tag behind driver seat the leather is made in malaysia..gosford brand...what im concern here..if they just wrap the leather on the ori fabric..how the side airbag are going to work..back to the leather yg terbuka..aku dah pasang balik tapi x kemas & tight as before...sapa2 owner 2.0 same problem cam aku?
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i believe upgrading leather seat in malaysia is cheaper than buying with Kia.
smart la naza ni.

QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jul 16 2010, 07:48 AM)
drag race or head on collision?  tongue.gif
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actually.. it doesn't matter.. daring ppl will win the game.
ariff u dare or not?

QUOTE(olitabin @ Jul 16 2010, 09:07 AM)
why people still want compare forte & civic.. why not compare the same price like:

1) FORTE 2.0 VS VIOS TRD OR ALTIS 1.8 OR CITY S, E
2) FORTE 1.6 VS VIOS S, E, J OR ALTIS 1.6 OR CITY S, E

doh.gif
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different segment mah...

QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:30 AM)
hi missforte

lets TT together

special TT just for you..  drool.gif
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QUOTE(CoolSky @ Jul 16 2010, 10:41 AM)
ABC spotted!!  whistling.gif
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coolsky.. no need to SPOT~ he is ABC.
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post Jul 16 2010, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(phelix @ Jul 16 2010, 10:52 AM)
actually.. it doesn't matter.. daring ppl will win the game.
ariff u dare or not?

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i agree, i heard from my racing kaki fren, a kancil 850 stock can win integra typeR in hill race.

cos the Type R owner sayang his car ^^ but i reluctant to believe la.

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Who dares Wins ( go google)

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khaw
post Jul 16 2010, 12:12 PM

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Waiting @ KIA JnS Penang.

Hopefully this time the alignment (2nd time) & front right (Driver side) seat belt adjuster noise will be fixed.

** UPDATE **

Seat belt adjusted noise - FIXED
Alignment - Much better - Steering is no longer tilted to the left.

This post has been edited by khaw: Jul 16 2010, 03:28 PM
tehoice
post Jul 16 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(olitabin @ Jul 16 2010, 09:07 AM)
why people still want compare forte & civic.. why not compare the same price like:

1) FORTE 2.0 VS VIOS TRD OR ALTIS 1.8 OR CITY S, E
2) FORTE 1.6 VS VIOS S, E, J OR ALTIS 1.6 OR CITY S, E

doh.gif
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why would you wan to downgrade your car and compare it with a cheaper or lower segment? your car is same segment as civic, altis, M3 and some other same segment cars.

do check out the Autocar Magazine for July issue, there is a head to head comparison between forte 1.6 and city E spec. actually forte 1.6 loss out a little bit u know?

0-100km/h - City wins a little bit than forte 1.6.
fuel efficiency - city also gives better FC than forte 1.6
top speed - forte is 190 km/h and city 180 km/h. (how often you will/ can hit this speed???

just to highlight a few as i cant remember what else is in there.
there's a small column talking bout dugong TRD.

do check it out first. those are official data collected. yours/ others views tends to be bit biased and you may not see the overall picture. hmm.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:30 AM)
hi missforte

lets TT together

special TT just for you..  drool.gif
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Tak abis2 nak ngorat budak Taipan ni rclxms.gif


Added on July 16, 2010, 12:24 pmSMK, ape kata kat setiap first page each of our thread, letak next version of thread gak. cth mcm ni aku amek kat 1st page V7:

Previous thread V1 -- V2 -- V3 -- V4 -- V5 -- V6

Official Site:
Forte Microsite bla bla bla..

Tambahkan Link utk thread V8 gak. Pastu dah ade V9, seme version tu tambah link sampai V9 dan seterusnye. Senang orang nak baca seme. Tul tak?



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stinger82
post Jul 16 2010, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jul 16 2010, 12:21 PM)
why would you wan to downgrade your car and compare it with a cheaper or lower segment? your car is same segment as civic, altis, M3 and some other same segment cars.

do check out the Autocar Magazine for July issue, there is a head to head comparison between forte 1.6 and city E spec. actually forte 1.6 loss out a little bit u know?

0-100km/h - City wins a little bit than forte 1.6.
fuel efficiency - city also gives better FC than forte 1.6
top speed - forte is 190 km/h and city 180 km/h. (how often you will/ can hit this speed???

just to highlight a few as i cant remember what else is in there.
there's a small column talking bout dugong TRD. 

do check it out first. those are official data collected. yours/ others views tends to be bit biased and you may not see the overall picture.  hmm.gif
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wanna defend defend abit, based on what i read, not a current owner, hopefully future owner smile.gif

0-100km/h - City wins a little bit than forte 1.6. ( the car so light, 1160 kg vs 1260 kg) vios even better, 1050kg only
fuel efficiency - city also gives better FC than forte 1.6 ( weight problem as above) vios even better
top speed - forte is 190 km/h and city 180 km/h. (how often you will/ can hit this speed??? ( then ma no need compare lo)

for a better car, heavier is better if it translate to safety design. Like more expensive car, usually roomier and heavier.

If solely fuel efficiency, vios would win. Surprisingly myvi which is even lighter did not get better fuel efficiency.

But Forte gives a more premium feel, for more premium feel, with same price, and more features, worths it i guess. The only drawback is after sales service no good. But even a perfect car like BMW also plague by expensive part and reliability issue isnt it??
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jul 16 2010, 12:21 PM)


do check it out first. those are official data collected. yours/ others views tends to be bit biased and you may not see the overall picture.  hmm.gif
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the over all picture is , globally ppl put this car against civic, ford focus and all C segment car. That says it all smile.gif

It is simply one notch above city and vios, if not for the same price, the Vs thing wont even started.

but if all civic,focus,mazda,forte all selling same price, no one would go for kia la. Dealer issue.
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i wanna add a bit.
forte 1.6SX have 5 heavy stock rim which weigh almost 11KG per piece
yes including spare tyre.

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post Jul 16 2010, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jul 16 2010, 12:38 PM)
i wanna add a bit.
forte 1.6SX have 5 heavy stock rim which weigh almost 11KG per piece
yes including spare tyre.
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seriously naza should put their car against vios and city, by all having same sport rims and try the fuel efficiency test, since this is one of the concern of malaysian buyer.

Too bad naza is busy with peugeot, future kia, and naza italia. lol.

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