have u heard of an android phone with 1ghz with a good battery life? lol.. btw, if its 12xxmAh, its perhaps around 80% of the htc desire capacity.. and 45nm would cover up with the low power usage.. 

it wont be too bad, even with the current HTC Desire, people charge multiple of times daily if constant abuse

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Added on September 19, 2010, 12:05 pm

The htcsense.com feature might be not free.. if u are willing to pay for the extra features, consider it as a pros

Battery life still unknown, perhaps would be lasting as long as the current htc desire. No front camera is not a letdown, who uses front camera as a major function.. it is consider only as a bonus. Screenresolution is at 800x480 i guess for now.

Qualcomm is very slow and playing catching up. Its Qualcomm which is playing catching up, not HTC. If only HTC would go for other proc such as Nvidia Tegra 2 or ST-Ericsson, perhaps it would have a better hardware. The reason htc is still sticking with qualcomm is perhaps their good relationship and bond. And another reason why qualcomm is still acceptable is the current android JIT function is working on Snapdragons since Snapdragon chips as enabled NEON which makes use of the JIT VM compiler. That what makes snapdragon chips calculates and perform CPU functions better. Google loves the Nexus One and the Nexus One is equipped with snapdragon. This is the reason Froyo makes the nexus one fly eventhough the chip has been released for quite a while already compared to the Cortex A8 45nm based chips. The downside of snapdragon now is their GPU which is Adreno. Adreno is still slightly behind PowerVR until today. Even the nest Adreno 220 is expected to be Pwned by the newer PowerVR (above 540 series)

Internal memory issue is not a big issue in HTC phones, or for at least HTC. They are pre bundled with MicroSD cards depending on the package. 8Gig in GalaxyS dosent mean 8gig for apps installation. The GalaxyS on stock only has 1.8GB of free space for apps while DesireHD has 1GB for apps install. There is always A2SD to fill up the needs for extra space.

Not only you, many expected so much but i guess its not a letdown. It surely is an upgrade for HTC lovers. Those which dislike always have another manufacturer to consider. That is the coolness of android

Seriously with such big screen HTC should think to upgrade the resolution for the screen, take for example, i have both Galaxy S & Iphone 4, & i compared both side by side, eventhough SGS using super amoled screen & Iphone 4 just LCD, but due to the Iphone 4 have higher resolution it really look amazing, you can't find any 'pixel' on the screen.

Pro name lol Motorola Rule, seriously i believe in motorola quality, i used my motorola almost 5 years still very good condition lol

you got the fact wrong.

800x400 for 4" (SGS)
800x400 for 4.3" (DHD)

both should be 800x480.  Current Desire also 800x480.

This is no more new tech as SGS already using 45nm processor.

That link is by a user that copied the official video and uploaded it again.
The actual official link is now disabled, and you cannot find the Desire HD video anymore in the HTC youtube channel, which means that they have brought it down PERHAPS because of a mistake in the video. My only hope is that its not because of the SLCD

But the problem is whether this phone using SLCD or not still unknown, not even AMOLED.

Here it stated that its using SLCD.

http://www.letmedefine.com/htc-desire-hd/

A few other websites also stated that its using SLCD. And if I'm not mistaken, HTC is making a move to use SLCD on all of its future devices due to the AMOLED shortage.

If you read through this thread then you will know the argument is not SLCD or AMOLED, some website even saying it is TFT LCD screen, because there is no 4.3in SLCD in the market.

Official source as HTC official video stated it's SLCD wut, but somehow, it got private'd.

from the video around the internet, it's clear Desire HD has the worse color than the Desire Z.

it's either the HD is using SLCD vs Z with Amoled / Super Amoled,

or

HD is using TFT vs Z using SLCD

or

it's a camera trick!!

Anyway, it's clear that the Z is using SLCD, so there left option 2 and 3 only..

Sorry i meant tor refer to the AMOLED vs SLCD case not SAMOLED .

Amoled vs SLCD has its own strength and weakness. While initially the AMOLED may look nice, in the long run the overblown contrast starts to make everything look too unnatural . Very cartoonish. At least for me, i prefer to see a picture as close as its original color as can be. Moreoften when taking a picture, it'll look very vibrant in the AMOLED screen, but once transfered to a computer, it'll look more 'dull', where in actual fact, the 'dull' pic is more natural and closer to real life .

Of course, amoled has its advantages. Watching movie or anything with lots of dark scenes, and usint dark themes on it, it'll have better battery life than SLCD. And of course, SCLD would fare much better in the sun than normal AMOLED. Not to mention SLCD is sharper than AMOLED. I'd take SLCD over AMOLED anytime.

But SAMOLED, that is a different thing altogether . The Galaxy S is a spec powerhouse. Nothing is close to it at the moment. But their software isnt up to par . But honestly the SGS and DHD should be on the same level, with just different pros and cons. More choice is always good tho =D.

Well put =D. In the end, both phones are good in their own ways. A more well rounded phone with good UI, compared to a hardware beast, with slighly lesser UI (altho, with time, the mod community will surely improve on it, for example the lagfix). Whatever it is, i am glad that more and more Android choices are coming out. A phone that can be the best of both world (power users, and the casual users), and giving the iphone a run for its money.

With time, as the Android OS gets more polished, i feel that it'll beat iOS. The current pro's of the iOS is just its fluidity, and large app base. Both which Android is getting closer to match. Speed is getting better, apps count are getting larger (cause more devs are realising the growth potential of Android and trying to milk its user base ) , and on top all of that, have so much flexibility.

All this bodes not well for iOS, unless of course, Apple realises their drawbacks and starts to open up iOS.

oh...  confuse now  .......

The DHD is the GSM version of the EVO4G with some minor enhancements =.= not a breakthrough product.

I feel the Desire Z is more breakthrough than the DHD. Currently its the top GSM keyboarder. Keyboard, SLCD, balance proc+gpu, new sense, 1.5GB ROM. Although once Milestone comes out it'll give HTC a run for its money.
And if Samsung decides to bring a GSM flavour of Epic4G, then spec wise it might take the crown.

But in all honesty, HTC product never tries to beat in all spec wise. They set themselves apart with their software and UI. When you say HTC, straight away you'll think of the Sense, the modding and hacking community, and its superb build quality. These 3 items are synonymous with HTC. Now with the latest Sense, you get more widgets, you get precached maps, and you get to use their Sense tracking service in case your phone got stolen. Tell me which company offers all of that? Service to track your handphone, or remote wipe your data, once it get stolen. All these softwares is what sets HTC apart, not ultra high specs. And sometimes, its these software improvements that makes your daily usage of it much more practical.

Of course if they were to put ultra high specs, they'll slaughther the competition, but at the same time, the price of product will skyrocket. You cant have super good software and super good hardware and not expect it to price close to a gajililon dollar

As i mentioned above, HTC reps do make mistake sometimes . Unless got official word, still have posibility it isn't. Cross your fingers!

My colleague asked Maxis and they said will bring it in around December. Quite slow to reach here it seems.

thats why la.. haizzz    i hope maxis launch DHD fast.. i wouldnt mind paying extra for ori set but i mind so much about waiting too long

Off topic, how much does he wants 4 it if he intends 2 resell?

Back to topic, Desire is not too good in battery life as well too. Sad to say. I had tested it with a i4 when i had the chance.

Class starts at 10.30 - Desire 90%, Apple 92%

I was chatting with my buddy using Meebo and he is using Meebo as well.

Around 12.30 - Battery left 25% on my Desire, Apple still have a decent 30%

Both are running on 3G with wifi off and Screen set to Medium brightness.

Overall, the battery life is nearly the same, but when voice calls are somehow put to test, Desire last wayyyyy longer though :S

www.eprice.com.tw , www.eprice.com.hk , www.mobile01.com ....  , only Desire Z AMOLED , Desire HD TFT .....

anyone can confirm the price and the launch date?

is it avaible for preorder?

i dont think they complain about the display, unless their previous device is either nexus one, desire, galaxy S, or legend.. 

should i should i?? :/

since the froyo in SGS doesn't improve the performance,im thinking to jump ship 

I have seen 3rd party batteries that was even rated for double the capacities of the original ones (not DHD or Desire batteries). basically speaking Li-ion batteries have not really evolved at the rate computer chips, so even if you do see some 3rd party batteries rated higher then the originals - buy it with lots of doubt.

Besides - what is really stopping the 3rd party manufacturer from claiming that his battery is 10000000mhA when it only holds 1000mhA? If they managed such technological breakthrough they will be winning the nobel prize. 

I think LCD and TFT is the same, they're interchangable

S-LCD and S-TFT same also kua