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 WTS Astro bYond HDMI signal extension kit, HDMI extender with IR relay for 2nd TV

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jeisern
post Jul 23 2010, 01:08 AM

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pls pm me price as well
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post Jul 23 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(klseet @ Jul 22 2010, 12:14 PM)
Hi ctrlaltdel88,

Would you mind to show more pictures, detail spec & installation example of the product?

May I know how's your product quality & spec compared to the following example?
http://www.avextender.com/style/content/CN...16107&id=203764
http://www.avextender.com/style/content/CN...16107&id=220424

Hope to hear more information from you !  smile.gif
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Thanks for your enquiry. This is going to be a long explanation, but good to know if you are interested.

The two products you are quoting are almost similar, but more suited to commercial applications (eg. information display, advertisement screens, etc.).

The HDMI extender does the same job, but as it uses a single Cat6 cable, the HDMI signal may be compressed before it is transmitted through the cable. This may seem like a more convenient solution but one should bear in mind that our extenders do not compress the HDMI signal and more importantly, adds an IR relay for control of your decoder on the extended end.

The other extender seems to be tailored for PCs, and requires an existing Ethernet network to be present. I highly doubt it will be able to reliably transmit full HD through even a gigabit ethernet network (full HD requires bandwidth of at least 4Gbps) and it almost definitely is a compressed signal.

Compressed signals (used in single Cat cable extenders and wireless HDMI solutions) not only lose some minor detail in sharpness, but colour depth is significantly reduced and is more prone to signal drops due to the high compression used. Other disadvantages include some loss in digital audio functionality, reduced CEC (device intercontrol) compatibility and significantly higher signal latency.

Also, based on our experience with video distribution equipment, commercial application devices come with commercial prices and is almost always out of reach for the home user.

As to the quality of our products, we guarantee each kit we sell to be compatible with your Astro b.yond decoder and if you are not satisfied with your purchase, we will honour a full refund of your payment. Kindly note that we strongly advise our customers to use the Cat5e cables we supply as they have been proven to work reliably with our devices.

Regarding the connection diagram, we will post one up soon to illustrate how the devices in the kit are connected to each other.

I hope this has answered your questions and if you have any further enquiries, do not hesitate to ask.

Thanks and regards.
miqie
post Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM

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Hi ctrlaltdel88,

Instead of PMing each customer of the price, why not just publish it?
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post Jul 23 2010, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ctrlaltdel88 @ Jul 23 2010, 02:36 AM)
Thanks for your enquiry. This is going to be a long explanation...
Thanks for the explanation!

I saw you stated the package comes with 2x30M Cat5e cable, so do you or we need to get our contractor to lay this 2 cables from downstairs to upstairs?

Also looking forward to more detail photos, spec and installation requirement, thanks in advance! smile.gif

QUOTE(miqie @ Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM)
Hi ctrlaltdel88,

Instead of PMing each customer of the price, why not just publish it?
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I agreed, more transparent mah... biggrin.gif
Joche
post Jul 23 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ozone9 @ Jul 19 2010, 11:56 PM)
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PM the price, any picture to view? Where can i c a real set/demo that connecting to Astro beyond n connecting to 2 TV with same HD quality?


Added on July 23, 2010, 4:07 pm
QUOTE(miqie @ Jul 21 2010, 05:00 PM)
I have received your PM on costing. How do we transact it? COD? PJ area?
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How much is it?

This post has been edited by Joche: Jul 23 2010, 04:07 PM
TSctrlaltdel88
post Jul 26 2010, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(miqie @ Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM)
Hi ctrlaltdel88,

Instead of PMing each customer of the  price, why not just publish it?
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Prices have been published, as requested by customers.


Added on July 26, 2010, 7:13 pm
QUOTE(klseet @ Jul 23 2010, 11:29 AM)
Thanks for the explanation!

I saw you stated the package comes with 2x30M Cat5e cable, so do you or we need to get our contractor to lay this 2 cables from downstairs to upstairs?

Also looking forward to more detail photos, spec and installation requirement, thanks in advance!  smile.gif
I agreed, more transparent mah...  biggrin.gif
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We have installers who will do the cable routing for you, or you may engage your own contractor to perform the work. Kindly PM for a quote, detailing your requirements.

Thanks for your suggestion, we highly value transparency and thus the prices have been posted. The connection diagram is posted for your reference as well.

This post has been edited by ctrlaltdel88: Aug 24 2010, 09:32 AM
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post Jul 26 2010, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(ctrlaltdel88 @ Jul 26 2010, 07:10 PM)
Prices have been published, as requested by customers.

We have installers who will do the cable routing for you, or you may engage your own contractor to perform the work. Kindly PM for a quote, detailing your requirements.

Thanks for your suggestion, we highly value transparency and thus the prices have been posted. The connection diagram is posted for your reference as well.
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UGPM ! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 30 2010, 12:05 PM

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PLEASE PM. CONTACT DETAILS.INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IT
gahkin
post Jul 31 2010, 12:01 AM

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bro if i wan get the additonal astro b.yond remote u selling how much ?
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post Jul 31 2010, 12:04 PM

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Anybody using this now a simple comment will be nice ?
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post Aug 10 2010, 06:55 PM

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bro i wan to ask now my new home now was exist the cable with revolution.

now my setup was :

ground floor - main point - astro byond - HDMI directly connect to Plasma LCDTV.
- previous cable was S-video but now was DIY to component cable but result very suck and was using component port as composite now.
second floor - 2 lcd tv was connect composite from byond ( 1 room can use remote downstair main b.yond )
third floor - 3 lcd tv was connect by composite from byond


so, i wan to ask bro why previous cable is RGB6 ( svideo ) port but byond dont hv come with s-video then we was DIY to component but the result come out really disappointment the screen look dark and deep red. not natual the color. why this problem accour ??

and again, bro u got any idea with hdmi extender u provide can directly using hdmi output to all my house LCDtv ?
we just want get better picture quality only..

u got any idea will do ?? biggrin.gif

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post Aug 24 2010, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Jul 31 2010, 12:04 PM)
Anybody using this now a simple comment will be nice ?
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I got the device last week and tested it with the Cat5e cables provided in the package and it worked right out of the box. rclxms.gif

However I wanted to use my existing concealed LAN cables during renovation 5 years back because my wife does not allow to lay exposed cables around the house. The problem challenge is that the LAN cables were installed to reach different locations and no direct path from the living room to the AV room upstair. So I got to make a few interconnects and after some hardwork in connecting those LAN cables different locations, I finally got it to work last night !!

Here are my comments :

1. The device is surprisingly small and light, and it doesn't required external power supply. I actually had doubt when I first saw it and was told no need power supply.

2. The biggest attraction to me is the build-in remote IR extender into the device itself!

3. The device is really simple to use and works well. However so far I have only tested for Byond video signal of 720p and 1080i. I have also not tested the HDMI audio because I don't have a HDMI AVR.

4. Excellent support from the TS and he allowed me to have the options of returning the cables if my existing cables can work.

5. All in all, together with the cost and the support, I am very happy with it and highly recommend it if you need to have a HDMI extension especially when IR extender is needed as well! thumbup.gif

/Jack
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post Aug 25 2010, 12:35 PM

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hmm.. interesting..

so what is yout comment on the HD video signal.. is there any different in terms of PQ on both tv..?
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post Aug 25 2010, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(aariz @ Aug 25 2010, 12:35 PM)
hmm.. interesting..

so what is yout comment on the HD video signal.. is there any different in terms of PQ on both tv..?
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Unfortunately I can't comment much on it because my living room is still having a plain o Wega CRT TV. Actually I do see the black level is a bit too grey on my HD projector upstairs. Not sure if it's due to the B.yond signal, or the projector's age (more than 2000 lamp hrs). I really do not have a reference to compare to at this moment because my B.yond was just installed last weekend and I don't have any HD display connected directly it to see the actual B.yond PQ quality. I wish I could bring the B.yond decoder upstair or the projector downstair but I can't. But I thnk I will try to bring down either the PS3 or TViX to play through the HDMI extender to compare, maybe during this long weekend and provide further comment after that.
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Aug 24 2010, 12:43 PM)
I got the device last week and tested it with the Cat5e cables provided in the package and it worked right out of the box.  rclxms.gif

However I wanted to use my existing concealed LAN cables during renovation 5 years back because my wife does not allow to lay exposed cables around the house. The problem challenge is that the LAN cables were installed to reach different locations and no direct path from the living room to the AV room upstair. So I got to make a few interconnects and after some hardwork in connecting those LAN cables different locations, I finally got it to work last night !!

Here are my comments :

1. The device is surprisingly small and light, and it doesn't required external power supply. I actually had doubt when I first saw it and was told no need power supply.


/Jack
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I thought the HDMI extender need a 5V supply which is provided in the form of 5V power adapter. Which means it require a power point(or two)to work. Can the TS clarify whether the 5V power supply is needed at the source end or the receiving end or both units? Thanks.

What if I need to split into 2 more displays? Meaning from the Beyond unit (one display nearest Beyond) to 2 more displays upstairs?
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post Aug 27 2010, 07:57 AM

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post Aug 27 2010, 09:01 AM

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From the picture TS posted, I assume that only HDMI splitter need 5V power supply. The extender will get power from HDMI. If you read from HDMI spec, it stated that:
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Some active devices, such as actively powered HDMI cables or in-line signal extender boxes, will by default attempt to power their electronics by taking power from the 5V line (+5V power) available on the HDMI connector. The HDMI specification requires all source devices to provide at least 55mA (milliamps) on the 5V line for the purpose of reading the EDID of a display. While 55mA is not enough current to operate most HDMI accessory devices (which typically require about 100 to 150mA), most source devices on the market today provide significantly more current on the 5V line than the HDMI specification requires. As a result, the vast majority of accessory devices can operate when interfaced with a source device that provides more than the required current (i.e. over 100-150mA) on the 5V line. However, manufacturers should provide a provision for their powered HDMI accessory devices to obtain external power, and consumers are encouraged to look for this external power provision when purchasing such products.

So I assume HDMI splitter will provide enough power to the extender transmitter.
But at the receiver end is still puzzled me. It's whether HDMI port at TV provide enough current or they send the power through Cat5.
If you want to extend more than 2 display, you need to get 1 to 3 HDMI splitter or even 1-4. That's mean another set of extender & extra money lorr tongue.gif
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post Sep 2 2010, 06:01 PM

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Hi,

Okay, here's my current home set up:

1. Living room with Astro bYond connected to an LCD TV
2. Upstairs AV room with a CRT tv WITHOUT HDMI input.
3. I already have internal S-Video wiring connecting my living room to the upstairs AV room. Previously used for normal ASTRO extender before i upgraded to b.yond.

So my question is:
Is there any way i can extend my current Astro bYond to my upstairs CRT tv using S-Video instead of your Cat5E? I don't mind if there's no HD in the upstairs room, as long as the quality is like normal Astro is sufficient.

Thanks!
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post Sep 8 2010, 02:03 PM

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Hi there. Does this price include installation? I'm an interested buyer.
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Pls pm me price with and without cables.

Q. My house has concealed LAN cables, can that work?

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