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 Nokia N8 V2, Perfect Camera Phone

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post Jul 13 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jason3399 @ Jul 13 2010, 06:14 PM)
Capacitive touch screen phone got stylus?
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yes, as long as it's conductive... nod.gif
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post Jul 13 2010, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jason3399 @ Jul 13 2010, 06:27 PM)
I see.. But the shape is same like those resistive right?
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shape would be same same loh.... cap touch screen use conductive method to capture user input, res touch use pressure change to capture the user input, so as long as the stylus conductive then it can be use... tapi tekan tekan sudah tak main loh tongue.gif
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post Jul 15 2010, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jul 14 2010, 10:22 PM)
welcome newbie for Lyn.welcome to N8 discussion thread.recently read too much disadvantages for N8 compare to other phone.losing confidence.btw,the other brands phone also cant convince me as well.
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mind to share out those negative URL?? would like to have a look and see what it is hmm.gif
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post Jul 19 2010, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Jul 19 2010, 02:27 AM)
I like ovi map 2...but the map doh.gif...super outdated for my kampung area...doh.gif
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yup, the maps detail as well as the POI is the main concern, but i think for ppl living at town area (KL/PNG/JB) then the OVI Maps do have quite no. of detail included... the Ovi Maps currently have it's own error reporting coming which hopefully it will be mature within a year or so?? hmm.gif
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post Jul 19 2010, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jul 19 2010, 02:49 PM)
that one is actually cos s60v3 got pre-FP, FP-1, FP-2...but so far i see s60v5's application works the same on the phones running on it..
compatibility issue only happens last time when u are running an app that is build for another feature pack
same too...but i do hope they improve the GPS signal also, sometimes the GPS is still a little off
never really used Nokia Maps before, izit better then garmin?
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It react faster and the autozoom is more clear during lane switching... nod.gif
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post Jul 21 2010, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jason3399 @ Jul 21 2010, 04:32 PM)
Ooops doh.gif  Heheh sweat.gif  Sorry man... Kinda lost from this thread recently...
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I've read through somewhere, if the phone HANG, u just need to LONG PRESS the power button then it will force OFF the phone... hmm.gif
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post Aug 5 2010, 11:43 AM

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although the feature is cool, but for me it's only to show off purpose, in practical if we really going to be portable and talk about mobility, it doesnt make sense to carry the extra bt mouse and kb along not to mention the heck of a monitor or LCD?? tongue.gif
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post Aug 6 2010, 04:51 PM

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N8 would be the answer... but i mostly will delay the buy as my 5800xm still looks new in term of hardware/software...
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post Aug 13 2010, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Aug 13 2010, 06:17 AM)
N8 Silver vs Nokia N97 Mini


wow n8 boot so fast...mini zzzzz but I still like my mini...
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but ain't that the startup time vary by what we've installed?
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post Aug 21 2010, 07:14 PM

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good or not good it only will valid once the N8 got released and read sharing from the actual users group then decide the pro & con that been share and verify it's intergrity... but from the nokia themself published the N8 camera do have the killing punch when compare with all current camera phone (of coz not with digital camera as it's total different things here)... from the schematic what make me wonder is the old gps chip and the battery juice... hmm.gif
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why ppl take side when come to gadget? all those UI are base on personal preference, something good to u might not good for me... but of coz when time goes by all ppl will get boring no matter how good the UI would be... for Symbian I think that would be the case nod.gif

what make me wondering is the IPhone UI where only multiple shortcuts ONLY UI and it make all ppl crazy about it... for me it only good in term of response but NOTHING good on creativity even the old dam wince3.11 already have those shortcut feature... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Aug 21 2010, 11:53 PM)
No no no... dont get me wrong here.

What Im saying is Nokia stick to the decade old S60 for its UI. That works very well for keypad operation. Who dare say anyone else was better than Nokia at it? None....

Fast forward 2010... Nokia still stick to the old UI. OK... that works really well for the keypad, but hey, we are using touch screen now. OK... we accept that S60V5 is a flop but didnt Nokia promise S3 gonna be different? Same old thing here...

I didnt feel like we need new UI with every release. Windows desktop stay the same with slight addition to the desktop. Same thing with S60. All the way to FP2, there were additional stuffs being added. Stop there and recall. Both of them fail to capture the audience when it comes to touch screen adoption. People wanted different ways to interact via the touch screen. Not because it was pretty or whatever.

Gets the UI right and evolve from there. I thought S90 was perfect. Not being too PC'ed like WM while offering a new way to interact with the new input system. Simple one, like entering hours, mins, for clock and alarm... It does not require a keypad with S90. Just tick the arrow up and down (hardware limitation, no capacitive screen). Approach is correct, I like it here. Change is necessary... user friendly, and not pop up a keypad for you to type. Thats so yesterday. I dont want to carry on for too long here... One right approach, and the UI last forever. How much did Windows desktop changed over the years? Basic still the same, difference is how they improve tiny little bits like Side Gadgets, Quick Launch, Start Menu tweaks, etc.
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agree, so what make me wonder is the nokia seem don't having a huge bunch on compatible beta tester (for bugs decovering) and think out of the box designer or market survey team that try to figure what's important and needed core items thats need to be included within the UI, but hardware wise i think they do have the leading edge of intro to new hardcore hardware. But when come to hardware though they keep lowering or using the old components instead of new (this might be due to batch purchasing and cost saving) instead perfecting the hardware like the RAM amount, proc speed, gps performance... rclxub.gif

for the UI, in my own opinion the single page is ok and will do the tricks IF it include 4 things within the page:
1. the scrollable contacts bar (already implemented)
2. the scrollable shorcuts bar (implemented but CANNOT scroll, that's sucks)
3. the widget scrollable bar (not implemented, this bar can include all those peripheral status, weather, can make it auto scroll or alternate display)
4. better calender & event & task & email information display (already implemented but still no so smart in term of layout, maybe can make the display alternative display between the 4 informations)

If the UI have all these done at least now u can access any contacts/apps/email/weather/device status/calender/event/task within a SINGLE page UI... nod.gif

Is all these hard to be implement? NO!! it's only the designer DO NOT put effort on it... doh.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Aug 22 2010, 12:46 AM)
Its just an explanation to what I pointed out earlier when comparing to Iphone OS and Android. I dont get it... if I leave this two words, Iphone and Android, it all makes sense and if I added back both of them, it become like warzone.

Copying, many people are offended by this word as well. However, if copying helps you accelerate your learning curve, I dont think its a bad idea. At least you dont waste time on un-necessary stuffs. Android grow this fast because it copy a lot of Iphone OS stuffs. Admiration of your competitor advantages spur you on to the next level of greatness.


Added on August 22, 2010, 12:48 am

Speaking of which, dont you think Nokia should just hire those that were responsible for Orange and Vodafone homescreen. I salute their creativity. This is what Nokia lacks. I think they will be able to make something interesting.
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yup... but now the nokia come up another program design by user where they getting the poll result for the new design which can see now they rather depend on the mass user input then their own in house designer... a good sign nod.gif

so the only improvement they need is during the survey they better put in very detail options within the poll... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 23 2010, 02:10 PM)
pretty neutral and not bias review.... thumb up...

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-...ndlook-en.shtml


Added on August 23, 2010, 2:11 pm

accept the fact... Nokia never learn on this....
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bro... it's kind of old news and the person who wrote it been call a non-valid (illegal) getting the preview set.
not sure he's been bias or not but it seem he work with samsung as salaried employee? doh.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 23 2010, 02:39 PM)
sorry if he is..  that is what Nokia accusing him...

he already explaint who he is .. and show he is a real journalist.... 

I don't see he bias to samsung...  he praise on Iphone interface etc on the artical...   

I can remove the link if ppl don't like it...  sorry...
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that's why i'm saying "not sure" he is bias or not, then that review also from the preview unit and not final product yet... heard that india is getting the phone soon hopefully real actual production unit review can come soon... nod.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 23 2010, 03:11 PM)
Invisible sheild have better business this time laugh.gif
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invisible shield not nice in term of out look... shakehead.gif
more over is the paint strip is at the button where it's impossible to apply any protective things...
those photo seem the button been physical scratched and not natural peel off as u can see the button seem abit deform... hmm.gif

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post Aug 24 2010, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 23 2010, 11:02 PM)
yes.. the video itself is 720p.. but when u viewing on the phone.. it definately oh nHD.. coz that is the phone's display...

so the final resolution on the HDTV is wat? follow the phone itself? or ?

from u tube is hard to tell..
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it will be full 720P at the HDMI output, read somewhere regarding this and saying the HDMI output react as a totally different output line and not sharing with the nHD LCD, so if u viewing the 720P video using the LCD then it will be scale down and if u plug in the HDMI to the TV then it will be full 720P nod.gif
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post Aug 24 2010, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 24 2010, 06:49 PM)
Here a nice link to the N8 specification
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N8/
Specification also state N8 have 2 Microphones
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something that always not mention within the spec is the SINGLE speaker inside the N8 where if u playing audio through speaker mean u only will get MONO sound and not stereo... shakehead.gif hope the N8 mono speaker have the loudness during hand free as most of the time the handfree sound really kind of weak for nokia phone, very hard to get clear message even inside the driving car.... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 24 2010, 10:28 PM)
Cloudy...  hahahaha..  nice job there...

Ranger from Ipoh?  got..  Cloud.... laugh.gif


Added on August 24, 2010, 10:31 pm

wah... u understand the speaker are so lame.. some ppl think it is Dolby Sound.. and tot it will produce HiFi sound.. laugh.gif doh.gif

actually...  for a handphone.. mono or stereo speaker is not that much of different.. because the seperation of the speaker are way too near...


Added on August 24, 2010, 10:32 pm
true..  u got money.. all kind of pre-product drawing u can get....
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it DO have different, although the seperation is near but the "quality" of the stereo do have better effect compare to mono nod.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 24 2010, 10:36 PM)
N9 spec leak....

1Ghz Snapdragon..
4" WVGA
512RAM
64GB storage...
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for the "64GB storage" i'm VERY doubt about it... hmm.gif

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