I think 1ghz + 512mb will be more than sufficient for any Symbian devices. Currently using SGS, the OS sucks alot of RAM (always left 50mb below of RAM). And it's starting to lag. Kinda missed symbian (or better to say, Nokia), but downgrading from 4" Super Amoled, is a sacrifice that's hard for me to make

After u switch to Android, then u will noticed that Android phone lack alot of features compare to nokia phone.

Haha dude, I've been using alot of Symbian phone b4. Forgot the nokia phone name, but I'll list few of it;

Nokia N81, Nokia N95, Nokia N97 and N900. There are few classic nokia phone I have used b4. After sold my Nokia N900, I switched to Android, and my first android phone was Motorola Milestone.

As a new android user, I need to suit myself with android environment. The speed, camera quality and yada yada are terribly bad. Great spec but in real life used, it's suck. So I sold Milestone after 1 months of used and bought Nokia E52.

And when Samsung released Samsung Galaxy I9000 S came out with Super AMOLED, 4" screen, 1Ghz Humming Bird, 512MB of RAM, I am WOWED with the great specs I quickly buy it and man, it's is soooo NICE watching video, capture some pictures, HD video recording, but it's lack of FLASH. And after a few weeks using it, I experienced memory RAM problem. Keep having 50~80mb RAM left. It's annoying!

The browsing experience is AWESOME, google handle it very well. But my experience from using both SGS and Nokia N900, Nokia N900 did very well in browsing experience with full flash player support and most android phone doesn't support full flash until android 2.2 froyo. And not many android phone will get froyo for your information.

Another what android OS lacking is FREE NAVIGATION software. My Nokia E52 have Ovi Maps and it helped me alot when I'm driving. And Android does not have true multitasking like Symbian and Maemo offered. Yeah, they have eye-candy UI, but lack free navigation, no true multitasking, RAM problem, is what google need to think about.

My Samsung Galaxy I9000 S what's best to keep me around is it's Super AMOLED 4" Screen and Good browsing experience. Other than that, is just plain normal. Maybe after 6 months of using it, I might get bored and get another phone

And one more thing, for our regions, there aren't any paid application from Android Market. You need to root, install MarketAccess/MarketEnabler so you can get the paid application appeared in Android Market. Why such a hassle? Symbian and Maemo does not need all of these. And I bought Samsung Galaxy I9000 S with my HARD EARNED MONEY just to get STUPID FREE APPLICATION only??

What Nokia lacking is their UI. it's BORED, yeah I admit it's BORED. But only the UI they need to improved.

ADD MORE, most android have awesome specs like 1Ghz, 512mb of RAM and etc2, it's sacrifice alot of battery life, which sucks. My SGS can barely hold for 1 day.

So there you go.

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 04:23 PM

Actually, you're the one that's funny

1. From every nokia phone I've been used, Nokia N97 the most sucks of them all. Bought RM2240 that time, and I regret buying it. Keep getting lack of memory. From both android phone I have been used (Milestone and SGS), both have memory RAM problem. And I can tell, android is bad in utilizing the hardware. Great hardware, but OS sucks utilizing it. Care to debate on this?

2. Brut Map is not android map, dude. Google Map is Android Map. Google have Google Map, but it's sucks. You need to be Online and have GPS function ON and there is no navigation features. And Papago, you need to buy it cost around RM140 while Ovi Maps is free for most of the phone. Now Papago doesn't support froyo. And I heard MFM won't update Papago map. Sucks alot.

3. I can live without the camera flash, but come on, browsing without full flash player support? Means I can't farmville on my phone but my previous Nokia N900 could. Have to wait another months for froyo to arrived. Btw, didn't u ask me what android is lacking? And this is one of it.

4. The things about pirated application, that it's dangerous. Google will be my friend if they let our regions have paid application.

And one more thing, if you wanna take a screenshot of your phone, you need to root first and install the 3rd application. Why such hassle? Root here, root there, to get Super Administrator access. To change the theme, you need to root also. Symbian and Maemo doesn't need all of these

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Added on August 6, 2010, 4:45 pmYeah dude, android doesn't have this features. Pretty sucks

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 04:58 PM

I might be selling my E52 for this phone. N8 will arrive to our shore this september, correct?

Haven't been touch with N8 for awhile.

1. When I used Motorola Milestone, it doesn't feel zippy/faster. SGS is FAST, but hardware utilization isn't near Nokia yet.

2. I would rate Garmin 1st, Ovi Map 2nd and Google Map 3rd. So here is only personal opinion? Fine with me

3. Than, you have to wait October till your Legend gets Froyo

4. Nonono, the thing I don't like pirate application, that there is a risk. The pirated application may lead to hacking and your personal data may be stolen without your knowledge.

Cut the crap that Nokia should release android or another version of IOS phone I really hate people mentioned this all the time while surfing the internet To me, Symbian has all the features I need, what's lacking is just eye-candy UI and enhanced/better browsing experience. That's all.

I must agree, Maemo isn't a platform to be killed with. There are people that still supporting it. And N900 isn't a mobile phone, it's a mobile computer aka tablet with call functions. So it's different And Nokia did mentioned N900 is for Geeks and Hackable. It's a geek dreams to have this devices. So you wanna exploit all you want, it's up to you man. It's true LINUX platform, it's OPEN SOURCE and there is Maemo community that supports it aswell. Maemo won't die so soon as long as their people support it. And wanna know the reason why I sold my N900? Cause It's thick and bulky, not because of the OS.

And Nokia is currently on QT cross-platform, that it may support the existing OS (not Symbian s60 v5 or s60 v3). Hope Qt could support Symbian ^3, Symbian^4 and MeeGo.



I'm very eager to wait for Nokia MeeGo phone than Symbian^4/Symbian^3 devices.

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 09:49 PM

Wow, it's liked you have soooooo many doubts here and there. Android really got into your head meh?

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Added on August 6, 2010, 9:52 pmBreaking news. Now we have Nokia N8 with android OS. Haha



http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/keepin-...ias-android-n8/

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 09:52 PM

The HD Video recording and 12mp image capture seems sucks these day. I've been keeping my eye on MyNokiaBlog for a while and seems most of N8 photos and HD video recording sucks. Some mentioned that it's fake and purpose is to pursue us from getting Nokia N8.

And MeeGo latest video have been removed from youtube. Dang, it's so AWESOME and I very eager then ever. And this is what Android should be from the start.



This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 10:10 PM

Yeah, I know how you feel and I bet everyone here do. After using Nokia N97, I nearly lost faith coz come on, there is alot of good ads hanging around about N97, and it doesn't exceed any of my expectation. And when N900 came out, for a resistive devices, it exceed my expectation except it's thickness and bulkiness. And running 600Mhz + true multitasking, to be honest, android will never come close to either Symbian or Maemo (probably even MeeGo) in hardware utilization and true multitasking. Gingerbread (android 3.0) may overcome this, but have to wait till next year for it to come. And still no news whether my SGS will get Gingerbread or not. It's pretty frustrating.

And here, after using Motorola Milestone, and now SGS, there is alot of features that android is lacking. So thats why I currently owned both E52 and SGS. Nokia have all the features I need except browsing experience sucks alot. And with SGS that have good browsing experience, my life seems nearly perfect with this 2 phones.

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Added on August 6, 2010, 10:35 pmI really don't like Gizmodo iPhone fanboyism and BIAS-ness. Coz it's from American and most american people are more towards iPhone and Android phone. Gizmodo even mentioned Barrack Obama want to switch from Blackberry to iPhone coz it's bored but Obama never even mentioned on switching. I still trust Engadget for not being too bias.

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 10:35 PM

No, I never think of that. But after N900 came out, it's still prove that Nokia can make better touch screen device. Minimum hardware, true multitasking and alot of great features.

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Added on August 6, 2010, 10:45 pmWell Well, I'm an android and symbian users. Both have pros and cons. Features-wise, Symbian is wayy ahead. performance-wise, android is better.

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Added on August 6, 2010, 11:06 pmI think it's enough for Nokia's Symbian vs Android for today.

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 11:06 PM

To be honest, after using SGS for 1 months, I think, "why should I get N8??". Coz Nokia E52 is already seems perfect for me and N97 past experience still haunting me. So if I want something new from Nokia, and MeeGo device for sure will be my next target. hehe

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Added on August 6, 2010, 11:25 pmSGS should give me comfy for 6~8 months b4 I go to another phone. By that time, MeeGo phone probably came out and I'm SOOOOOO EAGER to have it!!

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 6 2010, 11:25 PM

This is terribly wrong. If it can work out like that, someone should code the driver and install Windows 7 on it. Or perhaps OSX.

The Hoo-Haa of SGS is only the Super AMOLED 4" and it's good browsing experience. Only both of these should keep me comfy for 6~8 months. If Gingerbread offered more features, then maybe I will use SGS a little more longer.

Care to explain it in detail?

I know their share is dropping after been whoop out by iOS and now android. But that doesn't mean they FAILED.

In real time experience, SGS is fast. SGS have great hardware but the current version of OS is bad utilizing so it seems a waste. Froyo will make it better with better hardware utilization. Good hardware means nothing if the OS could not utilize it well.

I've been using alot of phone, but seems someone just look down at me think that android phone only lack green and red call button with emoticons, wanna make fun of me. Geez, what's with people these day?

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Aug 7 2010, 04:03 AM

Dude, now u realized it after several months of it's official announcement? Try read older page or go to the older ver of N8 topic. At 680Mhz and with broadcom GPU, it can play EA racing game really well. And there are debates which CHIP is better, is it Processor? Or GPU? Intel have admit that GPU is better then CPU. So here, GPU will enhanced the smoothiness playing HD Video, Graphical games and etc2. The GPU itself is better then intergrated GPU on the hummingbird. Hence, it's already good for mid-range phone. And Symbian does not require very advance CPU for your info. 680Mhz seems OK with (although I'm disappointed abit from the start). And I remind you, it's a MID-RANGE phone.

And I think we have discussed this ARM11 SLOW CPU waaayyy back in previous page and previous topic.

Erm, there's NO PAID APP officially in our regions. You need to root and install MarketAccess to buy it. And it's in USD currency.

Damn, I'm off topic these far. Huhu3