Solenoid 2xx

Manual heads would cost less than 1xx

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Tank rm 4xx (6L)-mine anyways

The normal 2L ones would set you back to rm 2xx or Fire extinguisher units , some below rm 1xx..

My fish rooms set-up is Rm 700 (including brass 3 way splitter and cheapo diffusers)

Im in this for 5 years and counting. and I still think it's worth it lol.

Like I said, it's not only Monetary cost.

Im quite happy to be able to grow every plant out there successfully. Not just moss.

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Added on December 20, 2010, 12:31 amOh And it's just rm 70 for these 5 years for refills.

You'll see Takashi Amano makes new CO2 tablets for ADA and highly marketed it whole world if it's so effective...

Yeah chups, why not both of you show your planted tanks here, see which is better in terms of plants health. (dont show your 'moss' tank only though.. LOL)

I'll just defuse this in case this turns ugly.

Its up to each persons needs.

My moss only shrimp tank has no c02 supplement. Still growing.

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My 3feet with the most buck with the most plants would consume my 4Litre c02 tank in 4 months easily as I run 7 bubbles per second.

My room tanks consume little hence less.

Just saying that c02 tablets wont be able to sustain my high light 3footer for sure.

Hope you didnt take this personally, Just stating facts

I dont think you understand how the CO2 system works and Canister filter in relation? Do you even know what's a diffuser?

Im just saying 'hope' bro As Im known in this thread to be annoyingly rude LOL.

Read above post in regards. its not only the 'calm' factor. water surface to air contact matters as well.

Man this is the kind of talk this thread is lacking LOL.

I doubt I saw anyone talking about water surface contact , air exchange and c02 loss talk before in the past Vs.

Nope, as you said it yourself,  its a chemical reaction thing, it wont be enough to supply the same amount as pressurized in the same amount of time..  hence not being able to cope with all the demanding plants..

when it wont be able to cope = algaeeee

That tank of mine, I have to trim every 2 weeks if not it gets even more buttugly than it is . Now thats what I call thriving growth.

Couldnt even sustain my 1footer. even with 2 tabs. instead I have shrimps dying on me

If you went through form 6, you can just use the scissor and forceps in the dissection set they make you buy. Surgical grade, I used mine for almost 2 years and it never rusted, unless your looking for long ones la.

BTW, anyone here keeping ember tetra??? Is it compatible with red cherry shrimp??? 

I kept RCS with rasboras before and they wiped out my population of RCS.

Shows to prove you guys are not providing enough hiding places.. my old 2feeter with breeding cherries with cardinals swimming around. lol. Otherwise,
ALL fish will attack the rcs if given the chance. So provide hiding space if you want to keep the 2 together..(E.g. MORE PLANTS)

Drew

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Added on December 20, 2010, 11:10 pm@mic, youre wrong,  scissors can range from rm 4 LOL to Rm 4xx  ( Some even up to 7xx)

Hi guys,

Im really new in this, a friend gave a small aquarium with a filter. I started to read a bit and decided to go with planted aquarium.
I planted some mini hairgrass, hc, and glosso. 30% water change every week. Half co2 tablet everyday. Light around 8 hours. 2 small pink fish, forgot the name. 2 cherry shrimp, died after 2 days. The growth is really slow, hairgrass seems to hang on quite ok, hc and glosso not so good, most of them died, and the remaining are turning yellow. Can someone point out what's wrong and what should i do to fix this.
Here how it looks like now...



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25 litre
11 watt, around 8 hours
temperature not sure, need to get back on this, non ac room.

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Added on December 22, 2010, 2:36 am

the guy told me i need half only since my aquarium is small
its actually been 5 weeks already, and most of the plants are dead.

thanks everyone for the advice. very quick reply and helpful
this is what im going to do:
1. get more powerful light. currently using the aqua zonic 11w. can i just change the light bulb or do i need to get a new set? at least 10 hours?
2. probably gonna remove the fish into a temporary tank.
3. add a bit more plant, this time just hc and dwarf hairgrass. probably some java moss.
4. 1 co2 tablet daily. maybe i should look into diy yeast co2 generator?
5. do i need fertilizer? currently the only chemicals i use are the anti chlorine, and some salt i think, came free with the soil.
hopefully that covers most of the basic stuff.