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AMD Radeon™ Discussion V3, Prepare Red! Green has attacked!
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8tvt
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Aug 21 2010, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Aug 20 2010, 06:32 PM) im not talking about the hardware. Yes Ati is good at this. But when i play bad company 2 it keeps crashing.. Resulting me to use my laptop instead... Either its bc2 support for ati card or ati driver problem.. Im nt sure.. if u not sure.. how come u blame the card becoz of that buggy game.. need to tweak here and there is normal.. even conflicted directX files also will give u a problem..
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gg8989
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Aug 21 2010, 09:46 PM
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Getting Started

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i checked my psu is cm Extreme Power Plus 500W. so i better to change new psu first?
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Eugene91
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Aug 21 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 21 2010, 07:01 PM) if u not sure.. how come u blame the card becoz of that buggy game.. need to tweak here and there is normal.. even conflicted directX files also will give u a problem.. I didn't blame the card. I did mention about great ATI cards.. but lousy driver support.
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vincent09
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Aug 22 2010, 01:28 PM
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May I know.... what is the proper way to uninstall the ATI CCC and driver before update? I just uninstall it at control panel and I get blue screen and all the way happen after window started awhile. I just format OS  Just dump so many time also scare will spoil the GC or not ....
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faiz2036
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Aug 22 2010, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Aug 22 2010, 01:28 PM) May I know.... what is the proper way to uninstall the ATI CCC and driver before update? I just uninstall it at control panel and I get blue screen and all the way happen after window started awhile. I just format OS  Just dump so many time also scare will spoil the GC or not .... 1. - Uninstall the the driver.. 2. - Restart your pc. 3. - Login to Safe mode.. 4. - Use driver sweeper. (can google it to download or find in guru3d.com) 5 - Restart.. 6. - Install latest Driver..
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vincent09
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Aug 22 2010, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(faiz2036 @ Aug 22 2010, 01:57 PM) 1. - Uninstall the the driver.. 2. - Restart your pc. 3. - Login to Safe mode.. 4. - Use driver sweeper. (can google it to download or find in guru3d.com) 5 - Restart.. 6. - Install latest Driver..  Thank you faiz2036 I lost of luck when doing 1st step...
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faiz2036
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Aug 22 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Aug 22 2010, 02:31 PM) Thank you faiz2036 I lost of luck when doing 1st step...  use program uninstaller in control panel..
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vincent09
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Aug 22 2010, 02:55 PM
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Ya... when the uninstaller call me choose uninstall driver or All ATI program, I choose All and uninstall halfway pop blue screen there...
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Clem1982
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Aug 22 2010, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(moshpit21 @ Aug 20 2010, 08:00 AM) this is because you havent change anything yet in msi afterburner, you just open it and thats all. If you change it and click apply, it will stay at your defined setting, it wont downclock itself Here is the small vid I promised, but the Quality is vy bad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mb6_b9HdTUSry abt that, I'll link it instead This post has been edited by Clem1982: Aug 22 2010, 08:15 PM
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DarkSilver
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Aug 23 2010, 12:09 AM
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Idiosyncrasy
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The actual for CLEAN UNINSTALLATION/INSTAL CCC for me(at least):
Uninstall CCC. Restart into Safe Mode. Run Driver Sweeper and CCleaner to clear out all registry errors. Restart into Normal Mode. Install New Driver. Restart again.
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ronaldlee007
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Aug 23 2010, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Aug 22 2010, 02:31 PM) Thank you faiz2036 I lost of luck when doing 1st step...  In your case, are u using 2 stick of RAM in dual channel mode? Try to use only 1 stick of ram. If it is ok, then run memtest for 1 stick and 2 stick in dual channel. Hope it helps.
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8tvt
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Aug 23 2010, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Aug 21 2010, 10:53 PM) I didn't blame the card. I did mention about great ATI cards.. but lousy driver support. driver prob is normal ler.. how come can expect running fine where newer game came after the released gpu.. sure some of them need to be patched, game also got bugs.. just give them sometimes.. other pc parts also will cause a prob..
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yimingwuzere
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Aug 23 2010, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 23 2010, 09:23 AM) driver prob is normal ler.. how come can expect running fine where newer game came after the released gpu.. sure some of them need to be patched, game also got bugs.. just give them sometimes.. other pc parts also will cause a prob.. No offence here but I didn't get any issues caused by the driver for my old 8800GT. Everything after catalyst 10.4 breaks or slows down a game I play on my 5870 though. Seriously, if ATI can squeeze out performance drivers in 10.3 and 10.4, how could they screw the pooch and let Nvidia catch up with inefficient hardware anyway? This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Aug 23 2010, 12:18 PM
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faiz2036
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Aug 23 2010, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 23 2010, 12:17 PM) No offence here but I didn't get any issues caused by the driver for my old 8800GT. Everything after catalyst 10.4 breaks or slows down a game I play on my 5870 though. Seriously, if ATI can squeeze out performance drivers in 10.3 and 10.4, how could they screw the pooch and let Nvidia catch up with inefficient hardware anyway? nowaday, i stick tu moded TwL Catalyst. Real performer.. i'm not promoting this moded,but i can say it squeeze your GPU performance to the max..
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8tvt
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Aug 23 2010, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 23 2010, 12:17 PM) No offence here but I didn't get any issues caused by the driver for my old 8800GT. Everything after catalyst 10.4 breaks or slows down a game I play on my 5870 though. Seriously, if ATI can squeeze out performance drivers in 10.3 and 10.4, how could they screw the pooch and let Nvidia catch up with inefficient hardware anyway? all games like that? just use the driver which optimize ur setup.. what's the big deal.. latest driver is not necessary..
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yimingwuzere
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Aug 23 2010, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 23 2010, 01:05 PM) all games like that? just use the driver which optimize ur setup.. what's the big deal.. latest driver is not necessary.. Which is why I stayed put on 10.4 as it's the last known driver that doesn't have issues whatsoever. I duno, maybe I think 2 years of using the 8800GT has kinda raised the bar in expectations for game performance in drivers.
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lichyetan
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Aug 23 2010, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(faiz2036 @ Aug 23 2010, 01:03 PM) nowaday, i stick tu moded TwL Catalyst. Real performer.. i'm not promoting this moded,but i can say it squeeze your GPU performance to the max..  yeah, TwL driver.. can notice the improved frame rates.. noticed it in few games i played so far after try it. No turning back after tht !!!
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Eugene91
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Aug 23 2010, 04:17 PM
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TWL should work with ATi and they shud pay him big .
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JoBigShow
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Aug 23 2010, 07:25 PM
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I got the feeling that TwL is an Nvidia employee in their Driver's Division and making modded ATi drivers as a part time hobby.... Even the true ATi Team at AMD who are full time employees can't do as good, and got paid for it too!...such hopelessness...
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Jet23sky
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Aug 23 2010, 08:50 PM
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Those who plan to crossfire HD5850, give you some good news. Nvidia has dropped 470 price already. Which it is almost same price as 5850. Just wait ATI respond for the next 2 weeks to see whether 5850 will drop price or not... Sigh.... I'm still waiting 5870 to drop price so I can crossfire it. QUOTE Nvidia has decided to put a lot of pressure on Radeon 5000 series. If all goes well in a few months ATI will launch its Radeon 6000 series, and today, in late August, Nvidia decided to drop the price of Geforce GTX 470.
Geforce GTX 470 was doomed ever since Nvidia launched GTX 460 based on a new GF104 chip as the price performance ratio was great. If we go further back, GTX 470 was never a hot seller as the ones who have waited for Fermi always wanted the more expensive and yet faster GTX 480 and GTX 470 was always a second choice card. Today GTX 470 based on old and quite hot GF100 sells for just under €250 for Asus card, while most of these cards still sell for €275. The timing is great as now is the peak of back-to-school shopping spree.
This looks like a new birth for GTX 470 as this 607/ 838MHz clocked card matches the price of Radeon HD 5850 and performance wise it comes close to Radeon HD 5870. If you care about TDP, then Radeon HD 5000 series is still a better choice, but if you want the performance better than 5850 at the same price, this is the card to consider.
ATI still hasn't dropped its price as Radeon HD 5850 sells for some €240 - €250 while Radeon HD 5870 sells for at least €337 and more. Geforce GTX 470 drops to €250
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