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post Aug 11 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(leyley @ Aug 11 2010, 12:28 PM)
If you want something like 3D Vision using active glasses, then can't help it. But something like 3D Vision Discover, maybe you want to add iZ3D to your ATI rolleyes.gif
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Nvidia 3D Vision Discovery is freakin' awesome! drool.gif
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-discover-main.html

I "test drive" it for 10 minute 3 days ago at KL Convention Centre (PC Fair), set the 3D stereoscopic to the max settings (15% I think) and the depth of field is very articulate. notworthy.gif

Yeah, ATi should have something like this in their arsenal but I don't believe they will anytime soon,
because ATi doesn't have that much of a wide variety of technology other than graphic cards, and Eyefinity (which Nvidia have their own alternate version... IN 3D !!!!)..
Havok is considered an unfinished project, so I will not include it..
Nvidia although a bit late with their newer line of cards (GTX 4xx), they ventured into other stuff like Physics engine (Phsyx), 3D vision (games, movies, pictures), multi-display 3D gaming, CUDA, industrial graphic cards, PS3, etc. etc.

Plus AMD is pre-occupied with their own technologies like their processors hence limit the growth with their ATi. And the fact when compared ATi with Nvidia, Nvidia is the bigger company thus have the resource and expenditure in their field of technology.

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post Aug 11 2010, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Aug 10 2010, 04:21 PM)
I was told before that enabling v-sync for FPS games (CoD, BC, etc) is no good since it will skip frames which means .even if there was a little tearing, smoothness of the game and instantaneous response to mouse commands are more important. Vsync enabled can produce input lag on some game titles.

Just my 2 cents~
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touch wood.. so far never experience skip frame... maybe i did but i dont feel at all... but screen tearing is somehow more annoying to me.. so for me... i rather set all max setting, 8X FSAA and vsyn... dont really care how many hundreds frame it can go... just want to play max game experience brows.gif

I think playing game as long as it is smooth to your own specification then good enough.... no need to care how many hundreds of frames it can produce. It is the game experience we are looking for, not the frames hitting the ceiling..... thats my opinion.. blush.gif


Added on August 11, 2010, 9:09 pm
QUOTE(everling @ Aug 10 2010, 07:35 PM)
The guy would only pay for a HD 5750 and you want to suggest him an 800W PSU that's more suited for dual HD 5870? doh.gif

The CM 460W would be enough. The HD 5750's TDP is only 84W. It may even be possible to go dual HD 5750 if you want.
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maybe you are right... power consumption is lower compare to the cards i have now.. who knows they may jump extreme... ha ha ha

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post Aug 11 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ Aug 11 2010, 09:05 PM)
maybe you are right... power consumption is lower compare to the cards i have now.. who knows they may jump extreme... ha ha ha
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PCI-Ex's standard is a maximum of 300W per card. This is the primary reason that the HD 5970, despite using two HD 5870 chips, performs less than a dual HD 5870; they had to downclock the HD 5970 in order to comply with the spec.
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post Aug 11 2010, 10:59 PM

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hi guys.. sapphire 5750 vapor X 1GB DDR5 is it good?
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ongdandy @ Aug 11 2010, 10:59 PM)
hi guys.. sapphire 5750 vapor X 1GB DDR5 is it good?
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I heard the cooler is good drool.gif
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Aug 11 2010, 11:04 PM)
I heard the cooler is good  drool.gif
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so... my computer can support right?

my spec:
motherboard: p5q se plus
intel Core2Duo
4x 512mb ram kingston
cooler master 500watts
2x HDD

how about direct X? currently using window xp. can change to direct x 10 once i install sapphire 5750?

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post Aug 11 2010, 11:15 PM

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hd5770 for more satisfaction and greeny.. brows.gif
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(angrysnail @ Aug 11 2010, 11:15 PM)
hd5770 for more satisfaction and greeny.. brows.gif
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low budget, bro sad.gif
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(ongdandy @ Aug 11 2010, 11:16 PM)
low budget, bro sad.gif
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I see..so 5750 good already lo..but 5770 is better choice if u wanna keep ur bdget then..
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(angrysnail @ Aug 11 2010, 11:25 PM)
I see..so 5750 good already lo..but 5770 is better choice if u wanna keep ur bdget then..
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how about 5670?
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:38 PM

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ur monitor 1920x1080? if yes at least get a 5750 biggrin.gif

Please use Windows 7 la.. for DX11 biggrin.gif

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post Aug 11 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Aug 11 2010, 11:38 PM)
ur monitor 1920x1080? if yes at least get a 5750 biggrin.gif

Please use Windows 7 la.. for DX11 biggrin.gif
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lcd monitor 19" only..( 1280 x 1024 ) sweat.gif
wait until my window XP got problem then only change to window 7. haha

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post Aug 11 2010, 11:56 PM

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i also interested on 5750 vapor x but somehow i admire ice q version from HIS drool.gif .but HIS 5750 dun have iceq version,567o got sweat.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(faizal87 @ Aug 11 2010, 11:56 PM)
i also interested on 5750 vapor x but somehow i admire ice q version from HIS drool.gif .but HIS 5750 dun have iceq version,567o got sweat.gif  wub.gif
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iceq version?
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post Aug 12 2010, 12:25 AM

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ongdandy, XP only supports up to 9. DX 10 and 11 is in Win7.

For 1280 x 1024, HD 5670 will be fine.

Playing single player SC2 on Win XP with a 1920x1200 monitor, the HD 5670 is smooth at low quality graphics, and a little bit jerky on medium quality and it sometimes complains about memory issues (not sure what) but is playable. With multi-player, the game can get badly lagged when there are a lot of units, even at low quality graphics - not sure if it a GPU, CPU or network problem.
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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 12 2010, 12:25 AM)
ongdandy, XP only supports up to 9. DX 10 and 11 is in Win7.

For 1280 x 1024, HD 5670 will be fine.

Playing single player SC2 on Win XP with a 1920x1200 monitor, the HD 5670 is smooth at low quality graphics, and a little bit jerky on medium quality and it sometimes complains about memory issues (not sure what) but is playable. With multi-player, the game can get badly lagged when there are a lot of units, even at low quality graphics - not sure if it a GPU, CPU or network problem.
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alright.. thanks for the info
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QUOTE(ongdandy @ Aug 11 2010, 11:58 PM)
iceq version?
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yup, ICE-Q version,but only 5670 and 5770 got this version
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QUOTE(ongdandy @ Aug 11 2010, 11:58 PM)
hi guys.. sapphire 5750 vapor X 1GB DDR5 is it good?
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If Sapphire 5750 Vapor-X is within your budget, might as well get the normal cooler Sapphire 5770, only about RM50 more expensive.

If you are able to go to Low Yat Plaza due to where you live, PC-Zone is selling Powercolor 5770 PCS+ for RM555 (as from 10/8/2010), that only RM5 more than the normal cooler Sapphire 5770 (RM550).
PCS+ is the equivalent to Vapor-X in terms of these "special cooler"sort of to speak...or properly spoken: 'non-reference retail coolers'...

The 5750 'Vapor-X' version is a bit gimmicky because for low-mid end cards, such cooler is unnecessary since the 5750 is a cool card even with the reference cooler (the stock normal cooler)
So you either get the normal 5750, OR save a bit and get to be very happy to own a 5770. biggrin.gif
Alternately, you can find 2nd hand 5770 at Garage Sales...

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 12 2010, 01:05 AM)
If Sapphire 5750 Vapor-X is within your budget, might as well get the normal cooler Sapphire 5770, only about RM50 more expensive.

If you are able to go to Low Yat Plaza due to where you live, PC-Zone is selling Powercolor 5770 PCS+ for RM555 (as from 10/8/2010), that only RM5 more than the normal cooler Sapphire 5770 (RM550).
PCS+ is the equivalent to Vapor-X in terms of these "special cooler"sort of to speak...or properly spoken: 'non-reference retail coolers'...

The 5750 'Vapor-X' version is a bit gimmicky because for low-mid end cards, such cooler is unnecessary since the 5750 is a cool card even with the reference cooler (the stock normal cooler)
So you either get the normal 5750, OR save a bit and get to be very happy to own a 5770.  biggrin.gif
Alternately, you can find 2nd hand 5770 at Garage Sales...
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Nice explainaton bro,i can't write too much last night coz online using phone..hehe..


Added on August 12, 2010, 7:46 am
QUOTE(ongdandy @ Aug 12 2010, 01:18 AM)
alright thanks man.
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Go for HD5770 instead,is just rm50 differ with that gimmick 5750 Vapor X as mentioned by mr. bigshow..

I can gaming with Full HD at 1080P with that card(5770) and full settings,all tested with Metro2033(DX10),Just Cause 2(DX11),Blur(DX10),RE5(DX10)..and load temp can't even touch 70C..

Think about that.. brows.gif

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QUOTE(angrysnail @ Aug 12 2010, 07:41 AM)
Nice explainaton bro,i can't write too much last night coz online using phone..hehe..


Added on August 12, 2010, 7:46 am
Go for HD5770 instead,is just rm50 differ with that gimmick 5750 Vapor X as mentioned by mr. bigshow..

I can gaming with Full HD at 1080P with that card(5770) and full settings,all tested with Metro2033(DX10),Just Cause 2(DX11),Blur(DX10),RE5(DX10)..and load temp can't even touch 70C..

Think about that.. brows.gif
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*happily nods in agreement* nod.gif nod.gif
and furthermore, very easy to overclock.

i know i'm abit late. but i malas to read through the rest of the posts..
which is the latest stable driver? Is 10.7 ok? or.....which? recommend please smile.gif

thanks in advance.


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