Budget RM400k for New Property
Budget RM400k for New Property
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Jul 12 2010, 10:50 AM, updated 16y ago
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I am looking around for new property, preferably around areas like Sri Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Damansara, etc... A lot of friends are recommending places that are outskirt, which is not my preference. I work in PJ & partner works in Old Klang Road, families are all in PJ area therefore it will be good to be around. We are actually not ready to move in now, that's why we do not mind considering on new properties which are still in progress. Any recommendations? |
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Jul 12 2010, 11:26 AM
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Landed property or condo/apartment?
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Jul 12 2010, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 12 2010, 10:50 AM) I am looking around for new property, preferably around areas like Sri Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Damansara, etc... A lot of friends are recommending places that are outskirt, which is not my preference. Taman Desa a lot if u talk about condo, as for terrace ur budget either u get very old house in OUG or u can search for houses in Puchong or USJ.I work in PJ & partner works in Old Klang Road, families are all in PJ area therefore it will be good to be around. We are actually not ready to move in now, that's why we do not mind considering on new properties which are still in progress. Any recommendations? |
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Jul 12 2010, 01:01 PM
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errrmm ... SOHO scott at old klang road
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Jul 12 2010, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(Arcanum @ Jul 12 2010, 11:26 AM) I believe with my budget, landed property is kinda hard to find. Condo is fine with me Added on July 12, 2010, 2:25 pm QUOTE(Tohsan @ Jul 12 2010, 12:00 PM) Taman Desa a lot if u talk about condo, as for terrace ur budget either u get very old house in OUG or u can search for houses in Puchong or USJ. Taman Desa is not a bad idea, how much is the range for a condo there? Puchong & USJ is a bit not too convenient for me. I fell in love with USJ 1 Avenue but tat area super jam! HAHA...Added on July 12, 2010, 2:26 pm QUOTE(cutealex @ Jul 12 2010, 01:01 PM) SOHO Scott? Never heard of it. Near which part of Old Klang Rd?This post has been edited by sky_micro: Jul 12 2010, 02:26 PM |
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Jul 12 2010, 02:26 PM
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if you do not mind getting second hand property, there are a lot of old housed in PJ that you can get for less than 400k. But you need to spend a bit more money for renovation.
With your requirement, I think location is more important. Which means secondhand houses. This post has been edited by abubin: Jul 12 2010, 03:24 PM |
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Jul 12 2010, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 12 2010, 02:24 PM) I believe with my budget, landed property is kinda hard to find. Condo is fine with me Desa Villa will be something around your range, another 1 will be Desa Permai come with 2 parking as well, look out for subsale as new hot one all sold off left the one not so good.Added on July 12, 2010, 2:25 pm Taman Desa is not a bad idea, how much is the range for a condo there? Puchong & USJ is a bit not too convenient for me. I fell in love with USJ 1 Avenue but tat area super jam! HAHA... Added on July 12, 2010, 2:26 pm SOHO Scott? Never heard of it. Near which part of Old Klang Rd? Actually if u are in Puchong IOI area like Puchong Jaya, Puchong Wawasan or Bandar Puteri, they are very near to PJ, barely 15 minutes drive down there. This post has been edited by Tohsan: Jul 12 2010, 04:32 PM |
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Jul 12 2010, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Jul 12 2010, 04:30 PM) Desa Villa will be something around your range, another 1 will be Desa Permai come with 2 parking as well, look out for subsale as new hot one all sold off left the one not so good. Okay, THANKS A LOT! will definitely consider Desa but not Puchong, yeah it's not far but can't stand the jam during peak hours Actually if u are in Puchong IOI area like Puchong Jaya, Puchong Wawasan or Bandar Puteri, they are very near to PJ, barely 15 minutes drive down there. |
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Jul 12 2010, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 12 2010, 10:50 AM) I am looking around for new property, preferably around areas like Sri Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Damansara, etc... A lot of friends are recommending places that are outskirt, which is not my preference. Just some queries:I work in PJ & partner works in Old Klang Road, families are all in PJ area therefore it will be good to be around. We are actually not ready to move in now, that's why we do not mind considering on new properties which are still in progress. Any recommendations? - First time property buyer? - Are you buying the property for living or investment? |
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Jul 13 2010, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(sycc.voss @ Jul 12 2010, 06:43 PM) Just some queries: For long term living. - First time property buyer? - Are you buying the property for living or investment? I bought a double-storey house but shared with my brother, for my parents. Now I personally want to get one for myself, for future so I guess it's consider first time buyer? Your recommendation? _________________________________________________________________________________ I just passed by MAS KIARA (opposite Kiara Condo) in Tamun Tun this morning, I used to think the condo looks abandoned back then but now that they are back working on the building progress, they actually are done with the entrance / guard house, looks quite impressive. Any advice / rough pricing of Mas Kiara? |
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Jul 13 2010, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 12 2010, 10:50 AM) I am looking around for new property, preferably around areas like Sri Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Damansara, etc... A lot of friends are recommending places that are outskirt, which is not my preference. Sri damansara, no more new project.. RM400k you can try search for landed Property around that area, but mostly price hikes to RM500k+ I work in PJ & partner works in Old Klang Road, families are all in PJ area therefore it will be good to be around. We are actually not ready to move in now, that's why we do not mind considering on new properties which are still in progress. Any recommendations? if ur family in PJ, better you can PJ area, to avoid paying RM1.60 toll from SD Added on July 13, 2010, 11:45 am QUOTE(cutealex @ Jul 12 2010, 01:01 PM) Imho, it is not really a good choice for residential..This post has been edited by bearbearhong: Jul 13 2010, 11:45 AM |
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Jul 13 2010, 03:54 PM
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Jul 13 2010, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearhong @ Jul 13 2010, 11:44 AM) Sri damansara, no more new project.. RM400k you can try search for landed Property around that area, but mostly price hikes to RM500k+ dsl hse in sd is around 500k depends on which phase.if ur family in PJ, better you can PJ area, to avoid paying RM1.60 toll from SD which part of pj are you working in?? paying the RM1.60 and staying in sd will save u more in the long run. |
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Jul 14 2010, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jul 13 2010, 03:54 PM) huh???Added on July 14, 2010, 9:24 am QUOTE(0106127 @ Jul 13 2010, 09:59 PM) dsl hse in sd is around 500k depends on which phase. working in Section 14 which part of pj are you working in?? paying the RM1.60 and staying in sd will save u more in the long run. i'm actually cool with paying RM1.60 for the toll, as I've been doing so since secondary time (of course my parents paid back then, haha), I'm used to it now This post has been edited by sky_micro: Jul 14 2010, 09:24 AM |
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Jul 14 2010, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 14 2010, 09:22 AM) huh??? staying in kepong are, most tings are generally cheaper. paying rm1.60 toll per day save u hundreds per month on other stuff.Added on July 14, 2010, 9:24 am working in Section 14 i'm actually cool with paying RM1.60 for the toll, as I've been doing so since secondary time (of course my parents paid back then, haha), I'm used to it now |
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Jul 14 2010, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(0106127 @ Jul 14 2010, 10:06 PM) staying in kepong are, most tings are generally cheaper. paying rm1.60 toll per day save u hundreds per month on other stuff. You can look for condo at SS2 like those *Ken* or tropics also around 400K. Maybe Millenium also around that range. If going for better condo, Monk Kiara Bayu also around 400k, which u can use highway to travel to Section 14. The Condo near to Kelana Jaya Giant (green color) also not bad. What about Crimson and Suria Damansara also within your budget. |
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Jul 15 2010, 12:07 AM
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Another area yoiu may consider is, if you don't mind LH and subsales, Condo in Tropikana area (casa indah 1 & 2, casa tropikana) is about 400-450K now in the subsales market..
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Jul 15 2010, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Jul 14 2010, 11:14 PM) You can look for condo at SS2 like those *Ken* or tropics also around 400K. Maybe Millenium also around that range. If going for better condo, Monk Kiara Bayu also around 400k, which u can use highway to travel to Section 14. The Condo near to Kelana Jaya Giant (green color) also not bad. What about Crimson and Suria Damansara also within your budget. crimson and suria damansara is cheap but not so high class.and what is the name of that 'green color' condo? |
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Jul 15 2010, 12:45 AM
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hmm, people if 400K could get a 2nd property, where would be your recommendation? kuchai lama? cheras?
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Jul 15 2010, 10:02 AM
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Jul 15 2010, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(cranx @ Jul 15 2010, 12:35 AM) crimson and suria damansara is cheap but not so high class. forget about crimson please, if you have been there u know the high dB caused by the NKVE traffic! I was there for just 10 mins to visit a unit an walk away without regret.and what is the name of that 'green color' condo? |
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Jul 15 2010, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jul 15 2010, 12:57 PM) forget about crimson please, if you have been there u know the high dB caused by the NKVE traffic! I was there for just 10 mins to visit a unit an walk away without regret. I cannot recall what is the name of the green condo but only one near the LDP big giant or near to UNITAR.Crimson and Suria area is quite jam, but anyone can tell me where is the place in PJ or KL no JAM...the answer is no. I been staying in Crimson for 4 years before i move to Taman Desa. Crimson management is not bad. I have one unit of Suria for rental. The location is good for Suira and Crimson is not bad especially for Ara Damansara area, Subang, Sunway and centre of PJ as well. Right in front of the tunnel of Suria, going to be offices by Hong Leong soon, then Taragon going to be there as well. Anyway, Taman Desa is a good place to stay. Condo still within the budget of 400k but not landed property. Sky, if you really do not mind, look for Tropics two, but i not too sure what is the size per unit. You also can look for the proposed serviced apartment opposite Tropicana Mall by Glomac (coming soon). There are a lof of condo in PJ is within your budget only what size of condo you are looking for. THe most important is how much per square fit you going to spend. |
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Jul 15 2010, 03:40 PM
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Hi, I was referring to dB , the noise level for those block facing NKVE...not the traffic... Traffic is everywhere in this valley.
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Jul 16 2010, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Jul 14 2010, 11:14 PM) You can look for condo at SS2 like those *Ken* or tropics also around 400K. Maybe Millenium also around that range. If going for better condo, Monk Kiara Bayu also around 400k, which u can use highway to travel to Section 14. The Condo near to Kelana Jaya Giant (green color) also not bad. What about Crimson and Suria Damansara also within your budget. Ken is nice, and I didn't know Ken is around that price, I thought it's more expensive than that... Okay, will find out about that Added on July 16, 2010, 2:31 pm QUOTE(Tohsan @ Jul 15 2010, 10:02 AM) Agree Added on July 16, 2010, 3:10 pmI saw in newspaper yesterday, G Residen in Kuchai Happy Garden www.gresiden.com Looks very very impressive. I am going to view the show unit tomorrow This post has been edited by sky_micro: Jul 16 2010, 03:10 PM |
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Jul 16 2010, 03:39 PM
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G Residen sounds very impressive ... wow
Tomorrow go take a look... |
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Jul 16 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 16 2010, 05:48 PM) i just called up to the developer office, the 1168 sq.ft. unit is RM438k... *GULP* but no harm visiting the show unit la, I will be there RM 375 psf sounds ok. Free hold or lease hold? But Kuchai area is a bit over developed. Anyway, no hard visiting. Hope you able to have one property soon. |
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Jul 17 2010, 08:47 AM
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but the new project name make it sounds like 3rd world... Gembira R...
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QUOTE(sky_micro @ Jul 16 2010, 05:48 PM) i just called up to the developer office, the 1168 sq.ft. unit is RM438k... *GULP* but no harm visiting the show unit la, I will be there RM438k might as well u go for the more classy OBD Garden Condo, Taman Desa.Develop by a Japanese company about 15 years ago. This place is popular amongst the Japanese as it was marketed exclusively to the Japanese expats then. Today the majority of the occupants are still Japanese although you will spot some Caucasians and well heeled locals by the poolside. OBD is well maintained and security is good. Access to the lift lobby is through a security code only. Facilities : Swimming pool, tennis court, sauna, Health & Beauty Centre, gym, function room, BBQ pit, cafeteria, nursery, bicycle park, laundrette, mini-market, salon, video rental shop, florist, children’s playground, etc. This post has been edited by Tohsan: Jul 17 2010, 09:25 AM |
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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Jul 17 2010, 09:24 AM) RM438k might as well u go for the more classy OBD Garden Condo, Taman Desa. I fully agreed on that. OBD Garden is much more better and worth the price. Although it is not new but location and reputation is there for the value. Develop by a Japanese company about 15 years ago. This place is popular amongst the Japanese as it was marketed exclusively to the Japanese expats then. Today the majority of the occupants are still Japanese although you will spot some Caucasians and well heeled locals by the poolside. OBD is well maintained and security is good. Access to the lift lobby is through a security code only. Facilities : Swimming pool, tennis court, sauna, Health & Beauty Centre, gym, function room, BBQ pit, cafeteria, nursery, bicycle park, laundrette, mini-market, salon, video rental shop, florist, children’s playground, etc. I visited Mont Kiara Icon launching today --> RM1100 psf which is around min RM1.21M per unit.....geng but i don't think is worth for investment. |
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Jul 19 2010, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Jul 16 2010, 11:37 PM) RM 375 psf sounds ok. Free hold or lease hold? But Kuchai area is a bit over developed. Anyway, no hard visiting. Hope you able to have one property soon. QUOTE(Tohsan @ Jul 17 2010, 09:24 AM) RM438k might as well u go for the more classy OBD Garden Condo, Taman Desa. Develop by a Japanese company about 15 years ago. This place is popular amongst the Japanese as it was marketed exclusively to the Japanese expats then. Today the majority of the occupants are still Japanese although you will spot some Caucasians and well heeled locals by the poolside. OBD is well maintained and security is good. Access to the lift lobby is through a security code only. Facilities : Swimming pool, tennis court, sauna, Health & Beauty Centre, gym, function room, BBQ pit, cafeteria, nursery, bicycle park, laundrette, mini-market, salon, video rental shop, florist, children’s playground, etc. QUOTE(RomaNce @ Jul 17 2010, 08:07 PM) I fully agreed on that. OBD Garden is much more better and worth the price. Although it is not new but location and reputation is there for the value. I went to visit the show unit yesterday, it was so CROWDED!!! the area is very peaceful and opposite road there are a lot of shop houses, nearby there are some small malls too. I like the convenience of it BUT...I visited Mont Kiara Icon launching today --> RM1100 psf which is around min RM1.21M per unit.....geng but i don't think is worth for investment. 1168 sq. ft is selling at RM469,000... no no no, way out from my budget. They are only selling Block B now. Block A & C is sold out even before it was launched, heard from buyer that Block A & C was selling at RM384k |
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Jul 19 2010, 09:59 AM
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I'm staying in Tmn Desa now. and yes OBD is one of the best condo in Tmn Desa but there are a few better ones, you can try Abadi Villa, around your budget with circa 1100sqt.
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Jul 19 2010, 10:34 AM
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Agree, for Condo, Taman Desa FTW.
Well for happy garden, recently there have been more and more Condos built there... Heard they are going to match HG with Taman Desa or even Mont Kiara... |
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QUOTE(surf-it @ Jul 19 2010, 10:34 AM) Agree, for Condo, Taman Desa FTW. What is FTW? What is HG? Well for happy garden, recently there have been more and more Condos built there... Heard they are going to match HG with Taman Desa or even Mont Kiara... Taman Desa is best to stay because well connected to everywhere. Everything is convenient here as well. Today i visited Kelana Jaya or Indaman. I found that there are a lot of development going on around that area beside Paradigm and Taragon. There is Parklane before the FAS tunnel, THere is going to have one new development next to Suria Damansara (cover, not sure whether development or not), Oasis at the back. Do anyone think that area going to be crowded or good for investment? I have one unit at Suria which is having 7% return. I m not too sure whether the price will go up again or stay stagnant...any idea out there? |
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Jul 20 2010, 12:08 AM
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[quote=sky_micro,Jul 16 2010, 02:19 PM]
Ken is nice, and I didn't know Ken is around that price, I thought it's more expensive than that... Okay, will find out about that Added on July 16, 2010, 2:31 pm I think for Ken 1, Casa Dmansara 1 / 2 you can get still get around 400k, but Ken 2 won't be that cheap. Maybe you can also wait for Tropic Studio (aka Casa Damansara 3), under con., don't know the price yet. All the condos above are just behind tropicana city mall. |
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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Jul 19 2010, 09:59 AM) I'm staying in Tmn Desa now. and yes OBD is one of the best condo in Tmn Desa but there are a few better ones, you can try Abadi Villa, around your budget with circa 1100sqt. Abadi Villa i heard a few cases of commit suicide by jumping off from top floor i wonder why. You will never go wrong with Tmn Desa This post has been edited by Tohsan: Jul 20 2010, 09:14 AM |
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Jul 20 2010, 12:03 PM
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planning to have children?
if not, below some cookies for your thought with the budget, u may get a new 1 (freehold) instead of the 2nd hand (leasehold) 1 living room + 1 bedroom Studio type (best for couple or for retiree) taking the lift down to the ground floor will give you all round of shops, from coffee shop to grocery and shopping frenzy. verve suite, fully furnished (via interior designer), located mont kiara developer : BKP sqft : 400++ 400k and up solaris, semi furnished (kitchen kabinet, dry and wet washer) located, near the govt office at jalan duta, on the way into hartamas. developer : sunrise (if i remember correctly) price : 380k and up 600sqft ++ eventhough its small, but it'll definitely give u the quality of satisfaction This post has been edited by Mave[rick]: Jul 20 2010, 12:12 PM |
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Jul 21 2010, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Maverick @ Jul 20 2010, 12:03 PM) planning to have children? I totally love Mont' Kiara but I seriously couldn't afford the units there, as I am looking at at least a 3-bedroom unit. We are planning to get married in another 2 years time and of course, babies is gonna be the next plan if not, below some cookies for your thought with the budget, u may get a new 1 (freehold) instead of the 2nd hand (leasehold) 1 living room + 1 bedroom Studio type (best for couple or for retiree) taking the lift down to the ground floor will give you all round of shops, from coffee shop to grocery and shopping frenzy. verve suite, fully furnished (via interior designer), located mont kiara developer : BKP sqft : 400++ 400k and up solaris, semi furnished (kitchen kabinet, dry and wet washer) located, near the govt office at jalan duta, on the way into hartamas. developer : sunrise (if i remember correctly) price : 380k and up 600sqft ++ eventhough its small, but it'll definitely give u the quality of satisfaction really appreciate your recommendation |
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Jul 21 2010, 10:45 AM
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How about Casa Desa Condo in Taman Desa? Price around 400K
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